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aquascoot Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 35157 Gender:	Re: They lied and said the vaccine would protect us Reply #15 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:27pm meh, the vaccine didnt end the pandemic far from it and every state premier said "this all ends when we get enough jabs in arms" well clearly they were wrong and should admit they were wrong.
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Re: They lied and said the vaccine would protect us
Reply #16 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:49pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:27pm:

meh,

the vaccine didnt end the pandemic

far from it

and every state premier said

"this all ends when we get enough jabs in arms"

well clearly they were wrong and should admit they were wrong.

Yes they were all wrong. It aint over - far from it but the Jab sure made a huge difference.

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Re: They lied and said the vaccine would protect us
Reply #17 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 7:03pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:27pm:

meh,

the vaccine didnt end the pandemic

far from it

and every state premier said

"this all ends when we get enough jabs in arms"

well clearly they were wrong and should admit they were wrong.

Yes they were all wrong. It aint over - far from it but the Jab sure made a huge difference.

Did it?
the 3 jabs I had didn't stop me getting Covid -
didn't stop me getting sick -
after 5 days I'm still testing positive.
Didn't stop me from having to isolate as I could give it to someone else.

Would I have been worse off without any vaxes?
I don't know.

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Re: They lied and said the vaccine would protect us
Reply #18 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 8:06pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 29^th, 2022 at 12:31pm:

They lied and said the vaccine would protect us

As it HAS !

NO vaccine has ever claimed 100% efficacy against ANYTHING

But they DID ensure a lesser rate of severity, a lower rate of hospitalisation

And a much LOWER death toll
In FACT, there was one day, just before Christmas - there was not ONE death

All made POSSIBLE with 95% - at least - of Australians double vaccinated

These vaccines are doing what many vaccines have done before them,
in virtually eliminating measles, chicken pox. mumps and diphtheria

And, YES, we had anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists back then.

If
conspiracy theorists
had to name their greatest gift,
it would be the INTERNET

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Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

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Re: They lied and said the vaccine would protect us
Reply #19 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 10:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 7:03pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:27pm:

meh,

the vaccine didnt end the pandemic

far from it

and every state premier said

"this all ends when we get enough jabs in arms"

well clearly they were wrong and should admit they were wrong.

Yes they were all wrong. It aint over - far from it but the Jab sure made a huge difference.

Did it?
the 3 jabs I had didn't stop me getting Covid -
didn't stop me getting sick -
after 5 days I'm still testing positive.
Didn't stop me from having to isolate as I could give it to someone else.

Would I have been worse off without any vaxes?
I don't know.

You could have been dead. The stats say that not being vaxed can lead to that result.

I am pleased that you are still there.

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Bobby.

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Re: They lied and said the vaccine would protect us
Reply #20 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 10:52pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 10:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 7:03pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:27pm:

meh,

the vaccine didnt end the pandemic

far from it

and every state premier said

"this all ends when we get enough jabs in arms"

well clearly they were wrong and should admit they were wrong.

Yes they were all wrong. It aint over - far from it but the Jab sure made a huge difference.

Did it?
the 3 jabs I had didn't stop me getting Covid -
didn't stop me getting sick -
after 5 days I'm still testing positive.
Didn't stop me from having to isolate as I could give it to someone else.

Would I have been worse off without any vaxes?
I don't know.

You could have been dead. The stats say that not being vaxed can lead to that result.

I am pleased that you are still there.

So the 3 jabs saved my life?

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Re: They lied and said the vaccine would protect us
Reply #21 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 10:53pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 8:06pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 29^th, 2022 at 12:31pm:

They lied and said the vaccine would protect us

As it HAS !

NO vaccine has ever claimed 100% efficacy against ANYTHING

But they DID ensure a lesser rate of severity, a lower rate of hospitalisation

And a much LOWER death toll
In FACT, there was one day, just before Christmas - there was not ONE death

All made POSSIBLE with 95% - at least - of Australians double vaccinated

These vaccines are doing what many vaccines have done before them,
in virtually eliminating measles, chicken pox. mumps and diphtheria

And, YES, we had anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists back then.

If
conspiracy theorists
had to name their greatest gift,
it would be the INTERNET

.

That's not what they were saying in that video. Watch the video again and stop making sh.t up. Sad

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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106873 Melbourne Gender:	Re: They lied and said the vaccine would protect us Reply #22 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 10:55pm Nail, Quote: That's not what they were saying in that video. Watch the video again and stop making sh.t up. That's right - they said - if you take the jab you're not gunna get Covid here: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/123/735/796/playable/ed3666...
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Re: They lied and said the vaccine would protect us
Reply #23 - Dec 31^st, 2022 at 10:56pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 10:52pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 10:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 7:03pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:27pm:

meh,

the vaccine didnt end the pandemic

far from it

and every state premier said

"this all ends when we get enough jabs in arms"

well clearly they were wrong and should admit they were wrong.

Yes they were all wrong. It aint over - far from it but the Jab sure made a huge difference.

Did it?
the 3 jabs I had didn't stop me getting Covid -
didn't stop me getting sick -
after 5 days I'm still testing positive.
Didn't stop me from having to isolate as I could give it to someone else.

Would I have been worse off without any vaxes?
I don't know.

You could have been dead. The stats say that not being vaxed can lead to that result.

I am pleased that you are still there.

So the 3 jabs saved my life?

I didn't have one jab and I completely recovered from it. Now the dickwads either want to argue I never got the convid in the first place OR that I if I did have the convid I am now severely medically compromised. The idiots are in denial of their own immune system that's how f.cked up they are.

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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

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Re: They lied and said the vaccine would protect us
Reply #24 - Jan 1^st, 2023 at 11:29am

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 10:53pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 8:06pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 29^th, 2022 at 12:31pm:

They lied and said the vaccine would protect us

As it HAS !

NO vaccine has ever claimed 100% efficacy against ANYTHING

But they DID ensure a lesser rate of severity, a lower rate of hospitalisation

And a much LOWER death toll
In FACT, there was one day, just before Christmas - there was not ONE death

All made POSSIBLE with 95% - at least - of Australians double vaccinated

These vaccines are doing what many vaccines have done before them,
in virtually eliminating measles, chicken pox. mumps and diphtheria

And, YES, we had anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists back then.

If
conspiracy theorists
had to name their greatest gift,
it would be the INTERNET

.

That's not what they were

saying

...

Oh yes they were !

.

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'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

- Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14213 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: They lied and said the vaccine would protect us Reply #25 - Jan 1^st, 2023 at 12:01pm aquascoot wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:27pm: the vaccine didnt end the pandemic It did NOT Just the mass hospitalisations and mass DEATHS I'm not looking it up AGAIN But for the first time in YEARS, on a day or two before Christmas, Australia had ZERO COVID DEATHS. .
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Re: They lied and said the vaccine would protect us
Reply #26 - Jan 1^st, 2023 at 12:05pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 1^st, 2023 at 11:29am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 10:53pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 8:06pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 29^th, 2022 at 12:31pm:

They lied and said the vaccine would protect us

As it HAS !

NO vaccine has ever claimed 100% efficacy against ANYTHING

But they DID ensure a lesser rate of severity, a lower rate of hospitalisation

And a much LOWER death toll
In FACT, there was one day, just before Christmas - there was not ONE death

All made POSSIBLE with 95% - at least - of Australians double vaccinated

These vaccines are doing what many vaccines have done before them,
in virtually eliminating measles, chicken pox. mumps and diphtheria

And, YES, we had anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists back then.

If
conspiracy theorists
had to name their greatest gift,
it would be the INTERNET

.

That's not what they were

saying

...

Oh yes they were !

.

Watch the video fool. That's exactly what they were saying. No ifs or buts !! You take the vax you don't get the convid !!

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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

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Re: They lied and said the vaccine would protect us
Reply #27 - Jan 1^st, 2023 at 1:04pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:27pm:

the vaccine didnt end the pandemic

far from it

and every state premier said

"this all ends when we get enough jabs in arms"

well clearly they were wrong and should admit they were wrong.

No, it didn't.

That was called "hopium".

And yes - they were wrong.

And no - they will never admit it.

Surely I don't need to explain the reasons (once again) why they won't admit it, do I?

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** Repeat Covid infections exercise our immune system in the same way that repeat concussions exercise our brain **

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Re: They lied and said the vaccine would protect us
Reply #28 - Jan 1^st, 2023 at 1:26pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 1^st, 2023 at 1:04pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:27pm:

the vaccine didnt end the pandemic

far from it

and every state premier said

"this all ends when we get enough jabs in arms"

well clearly they were wrong and should admit they were wrong.

No, it didn't.

That was called "hopium".

And yes - they were wrong.

And no - they will never admit it.

Surely I don't need to explain the reasons (once again) why they won't admit it, do I?

The same reason you don't admit liability when you are in a car accident Wink

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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

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Re: They lied and said the vaccine would protect us
Reply #29 - Jan 1^st, 2023 at 7:25pm

The one thing the anti-vaxxers can't seem to comprehend is that the
SARS-CoV-2 was a totally unexpected, and unplanned for, eventuality
that struck the planet like no virus since the H1N1 influenza A virus
of 100 years ago.

Medical researchers, virologists, epidemiologists and governments
were forced to respond as quickly as was practicable in order to
develop effective vaccines—but without the luxury of time, and only
limited foreknowledge.

As a result of the necessary haste in assessing the properties, virulence
and transmissibility and transmission of the new virus, it was inevitable
that occasionally erroneous assumptions would be made. However, the
highly qualified medical professionals who made those assumptions in
the early days were commenting to the best of their abilities at the time,
and within the bounds of their expectations as their research developed
more comprehensively.

For the current crop of anti-vaxxers, COVID deniers, and conspiracy
theorists to now, in hindsight, throw those incorrect assumptions back
into the faces of those researchers is unfair, petty and unjustified. And
to make the claim that they were deliberately lying is disgraceful, and
shows just how low these moronic naysayers will go.

At any rate, the data proves the claims of the anti-vaxxers to be wrong,
and potentially deadly.

In Victoria, for example, unvaccinated people accounted for 40% of all COVID
deaths in the three months to 21 October 2022 —despite representing only
2.3% of the state’s adult population.

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