aquascoot wrote on Dec 31^st, 2022 at 6:27pm:


You moron they were talking about the lockdowns ending not covid

You're a waste of oxygen

What exactly is this "conspiracy theory", that you label anyone who refuses to be vaccinated?

Do these theorists believe that the SARS-CoV-2 virus does NOT exist?
Do these theorists believe that these immunizations are only a plot to control or harm people and make billions?

I seriously doubt that any anti-mRNA vaxxer would believe either of these claims. Except, maybe profiteering from a government created demand.

There is no doubt that world/state/country leaders have all claimed,

that the covid-19 vaccine WILL PREVENT anyone from becoming infected with Covid-19;
that this vaccine WILL PREVENT anyone from dying with/from covid-19;
that lockdowns, distancing, and masking WILL PREVENT anyone from becoming infected, or spreading this virus;
that the more vaccinated you are, the more safer and protected you'll be from Covid-19.

These are all lies and half-truths by omission! Whether people should know WHAT these leaders actually meant by their comments, IS IRRELEVANT. It is what they actually said that is relevant. And, it is clear and obvious what these leaders meant. As long as you keep any message simple and short, and repeat it often enough, the masses will believe it.

These are the real facts; 

mRNA tech forces normal muscle cells to start producing foreign viral antigens, genetically;

mRNA tech does NOT use live, attenuated, modified, or dead pathogens/antibodies. Like ALL other past vaccines do;

mRNA tech will only produce narrow-spectrum, high-affinity, and antigen-specific antibodies. Unlike all other antibodies;

Over 97% of all victims of Covid-19 WILL recover. And, over 80% of those victims WILL experience zero to mild symptoms. Vaccinated or not;

No amount of vaccinations can prevent anyone from being infected, spreading, or even dying from Covid;

The condition of your immune system is the ONLY thing that will determine the outcome and the severity of this illness;

Covid-19 vaccines DO destroy ACE2 receptor sites on cells. And, thus will lead to many types of adverse events;

All mutated strains of this virus, will always be weaker(in some respect) to its original genotype;
   
On any given day of the 1,083 days of this pandemic, less than 0.04% of the Australian pop. have been infected(tested positive). And, only 0.00006% of the pop. has died  with/from this virus;

The average mortality rate over this entire period has been 0.15% of all cases.

Now these are the facts. If we exclude all the media theatrics, inferences, insinuations, drama, fear-mongering, and fallacies, we can easily see that the facts just don't justify the belief. This is NOT the "Black Death", or the "Spanish Flu"(there were no antibiotics back then).

This is the weakest of all the SARS-CoV-2 variants(Omicron). Since it is now the dominant variant, I just don't think we need to do any more damage to our country and our society!

So again, what specifically is this conspiracy theory, that anti-mRNA vaxxers believe in? And, what is the connection between where you stand on the political spectrum, and your choice not to be vaccinated?

ShellShilo wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2023 at 3:43pm:



if the bed wetters accept that truth, they then have a terrible realisation.

that they will have to come up with a positive reason to bounce out of bed in the morning and they will have to find  something meaniful to do.
some will focus on trump as something meaningful

its revealing that the trump haters tend to be the bed wetting covid catastrophisers

surviving covid and gloating about the fact they survived covid is all a lot of these people have going for them

survival = success = a meaningful life.

if they have to confront the meaningless existence of the last 3 years, they would have to admit they have wasted 3 years of their life they will never get back

thats too much for the ego of an isolated chode to handle

dont take that away from them shellsilo

masking up, reading the obituaries and being smug is the juice that powers their life

Carl D wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2023 at 5:11pm:



people who refuse to ever travel in a motor vehicle could claim they are trying to prevent brain damage and multiple organ damage from road trauma

i would still say they have an amxiety disorder and need help , despite the fact they are technically correct.

carl, you can hide away for the rest of your life, no one is going to stop you.

but no one is going to stop covid being an ever present threat.

if you never want to get hurt in a car accident, dont hop in a car...makes the roads less crowded

if you never want to catch covid, stay in your room...makes the roads less crowded

wither way, stop complaining about your personal choice

you are the one making it,

shoot off an email to Dr gerrard with a double r and voice your concerns
i'm sure he will be impressed 

Carl D wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2023 at 5:25pm:



never go on the road....you wont die in a road accident

never breath in air from other people...you wont die from covid.

personal choice and personal responsibility

i like roads and i like people but some people are very risk averse and should probably stay in their room

either way, you dont get to make the rules for planet earth , so you decide

aquascoot wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2023 at 5:43pm:


That was NOT THE argument he was making. Unless you plan on buying a completely self-contained hazmat suit, with an infinite supply of oxygen scrubbers, and want to live indefinitely at the bottom of a filled swimming pool, you will have as much chance of becoming infected as anyone else who breathes oxygen. This virus infects RANDOMLY, not SELECTIVELY!

The only stats that matter are the case fatality rates, and the case recovery rates. It doesn't matter if 11M Australians have been infected, if 99.997% of them will recover. RIGHT?

Carl D wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2023 at 5:11pm:


This is just an appeal to pathos. There will always be the elderly and the immunocompromised. And, they will die when it's their turn. Regardless of what the coincidental agent(virus, bacteria, fungi, accident, or protozoa) is.

Remember over 80% of Australians over 70yo with Covid-19, DO SURVIVE! And, I certainly believe that you should have the right to do whatever makes you feel safe and secure. But you have no right to force/coerce ME to do the same. Would you take a child away from its mother, because she refuses to have her child vaccinated? 

 

Actually they did say that:
“vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick".

https://mobile.twitter.com/catherine___c/status/1609745726158036995

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2023 at 8:26am:

You do know what CDC stands for, pal, don't you?
The Centre for Disease Control. The woman in that clip spoke for the CDC.
You know, the consensus experts with authority to proclaim that the science is settled and any further thinking is futile, if not an outright conspiracy.