Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4^th, 2023 at 9:57pm:


Which means......................?

Go on..... take a wild guess. You can even cheat by copying and pasting the most likely answer from my last post if you like.

Sheesh... having a tooth pulled without anaesthetic would be less painful than dealing with this.

     

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4^th, 2023 at 8:25pm:


Thank you for responding. I'm afraid that most people are just not science-literate enough, to be able to decern between what is scientific fact, and what is scientific opinion. Let alone are able to decide which sources are unbiased, accredited, credible, or peer-reviewed(not what you think it means).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1420798/

Most people simply seek out only the information that will confirm their biased beliefs and values(confirmation bias). Instead of considering ALL the facts objectively, they will simply ignore or discredit any information that doesn't support/confirm their own narrative/beliefs.

If you don't already have a working understanding/knowledge of how the immune system works, how vaccines work, what causes vaccine side effects(adverse events), or how pathogens effect the body, then how could you defend your position against someone who does know? Let me address your concerns.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4^th, 2023 at 8:25pm:


This would mean that he thinks that the SARS-CoV-2 virus does NOT exist. That doctors, researchers, and all healthcare professionals, etc., throughout the world, have all been complicit in an almost 3 year hoax. I doubt that he(or anyone else) believes that Covid-19 is just a media-contrived and manufactured hoax.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4^th, 2023 at 8:25pm:


Even if a site(or person) is an acknowledged conspiracy site, that doesn't mean that ALL information from that site should be dismissed/ignored as just another conspiracy site. That would be another fallacy. Even a broken watch will get the time right twice a day.
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4^th, 2023 at 8:25pm:


Firstly, no one knows ALL the ingredients that is in any of these Covid-19 vaccines. Except for the manufacturers. Also, only the Jenssen/Johnson & Johnson, and the AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccines use viral vectors to ferry the genetic instructions into the muscle cells. This viral vector is a modified version of the adenovirus(Ad26). It is normally found in chimpanzees. Where it is known to cause a mild cold in chimps. So, "monkey snot" is just a colorful and editorialized stretch.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4^th, 2023 at 8:25pm:

    
If we ignore all the selective stats, time periods, inclusion of the non-fully vaccinated, and other cleverly selected statistical fallacies(base rate), common sense should tell us, that if over 90% of the population is vaccinated, then the majority of deaths will be from the vaccinated majority. Which is exactly what we would expect. This virus is NOT sentient or selective.

https://www.realclearscience.com/articles/2017/04/05/common_statistical_fallacies_and_paradoxes_110241.html

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4^th, 2023 at 8:25pm:


Like you, he is entitled to his own opinions. And, so is Dr. Fauci. I agree that the antibodies that are produced naturally, are more versatile, and more adaptive than any antibodies produced artificially. So yes, becoming infected is the best protection from being reinfected by this virus, or ANY of its variants.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4^th, 2023 at 8:25pm:


This is very true. Especially, if all you're going to do is laugh at every one of his claims.  

Dnarever wrote on Jan 5^th, 2023 at 7:33pm:


sorry, you are confused.

its the other way round (assuming we are talking about infection, not hospitalisation)

Natural immunity from covid infection is a fact.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 5^th, 2023 at 7:35pm:


Yes, we are still talking about the SARS-CoV-2 virus, and Covid-19(disease) in Australia. NOT about hospitalizations!

It is very possible that I AM confused. So what specifically should be "..the the other way around.."? And, what specifically am I confused about?

Dnarever wrote on Jan 5^th, 2023 at 11:37pm:


I am certainly not here to change anyone's mind. I have read the article you posited, and thank you. The article starts off with raising the question, if we have natural immunity against the Coronavirus? Actually, some people do. But the majority of people don't. But we're NOT talking about natural immunity to this virus. We're talking about natural immunity INDUCED by this virus, vs vaccine induced immunity to this virus. So the initial premise is false!

Then the article states that our natural immunity weakens over time, faster than the vaccine-acquired immunity does. But neglects to say what that time is, why this is so, or any evidence supporting its claim.

It then goes on to say that if you want to keep up with a vaccine-induced immunity to Covid-19, you must continue to keep taking these vaccines and boosters. Indefinitely! Since the vaccine's protection also wanes/weakens over time. ??? 

It goes into the added protection afforded by these vaccines, using non-specific and meaningless terms like, "significantly enhances", "reduces your risk of reinfection", and "..have strong data supporting..", which all can mean anything you want it to mean.

Finally, it engages in fear-mongering, by listing reasons why you should NOT hold off getting vaccinated, or waiting for more research on the role of our natural immunity.

Even without all the coincidental/incidental occurrences, it is crystal clear that the governments of the world only want every man woman and child(and pets), to be vaccinated with these drugs. And, have almost destroyed this country trying to make it so. Maybe we just want to believe something so badly, that we just don't want to see all the red flags. Or, the slippery slope that has been created. IMHO