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Reply #210 - Jan 10^th, 2023 at 8:24pm

Belgarion wrote on Jan 10^th, 2023 at 8:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2023 at 8:02pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jan 10^th, 2023 at 7:02am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9^th, 2023 at 6:38pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 9^th, 2023 at 4:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9^th, 2023 at 2:27pm:

who is really the weaker person?

1. those who admire a young slightly autistic woman for standing up for what she believes or those
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2. those who have to denigrate a teenage girl to make themselves feel better?

Being autistic and fervent doesn't make her right. Unsung emotional blackmail makes her almost certainly wrong.

Nobody disagrees with Greta to 'make themselves feel better'. They disagree with her because they think she is wrong.

Crap. They're free to make a case against her arguments by using science etc but they can't so they attack her autism. Not only are they idiots whohave been shown up by a teenage girl, they're cowards as well.

By the way you fall under the 'they' I refer to Kiss

And here we have the reason that Greta was chosen to be the face of environazi propaganda. Any questioning of her message is called an attack on a mentally ill child. Much easier than having to answer difficult questions. Roll Eyes

And yet it's you mob that keeps raising her autism as if it's relevant . You want t question her message, question her message. When you attack her for her autism than it's not her message that's the issue

Her autism is raised in the context of the exploitation of a mentally ill child by those who wanted a medium for their propaganda.

Crap. You tried to use her autism as a substitute for facts . You have nothing else. Her autism takes nothing away from her arguments. Only a pig, or a moron (or both) would refer to her as mentally ill.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75043 Gender:	Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Reply #211 - Jan 10^th, 2023 at 8:25pm [quote author=aggness link=1673034287/209#209 date=1673345318]f/uck off Smith-[/quote] Haven't you got a homeless bum to blow? Jasin, fungus needs you.
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Reply #212 - Jan 10^th, 2023 at 8:33pm

Ignore Frodo! He never finished primary school. Nor has he held a proper job in his entire life!

A child who has autism OR ANY medical diagnosis for that matter needs to be treated appropriately so as to ensure they are not taken advantage of. Only a cold callous human being would pretend or carry on as though that diagnosis doesn't exist or is irrelevant.

Exhibit 1 - Frodo

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it's your mob that keeps raising her autism as if it's relevant

Note : We will all have to excuse Frodo who loves using Aboriginal terms like YOUR MOB to describe groupings within OzPol.

Exhibit 2 - Methra <--- In her case please refer back to pages and pages of utter gastric BS most of which the moron operating the Methra ID has once again googled out of context.

Note : Groggy would have been Exhibit 3 but he's STILL waiting for permission by Methra to enter this topic. And he's not yet been told what he's allowed to post by Methra. So just to be sure let's pencil him in as Exhibit 3. For now.

Back to the topic ... it's extremely relevant and important that a person's capacity is noted. Even at law people with autism OR any brain or mind linked disability are protected/treated differently in order to ensure they stay SAFE! Note : congenital or acquired neurological issues accompany mental health issues. It's not a case of either/or. These interact and mutually affect behaviour patterns and how to process information etc.

Bottom line? The REAL hateful and toxic individuals in this topic are those who have demonstrated a total disregard and disrespect for children. Children are a well recognised vulnerable group within our society. For this reason our governments have Child Protection mechanisms and safety nets in place covering all 3 levels of govt.

Children WITH disabilities/diagnoses etc .... even more so. In fact, particular legislations exist in addition to case law precedents which serve to ensure that all children remain protected irrespective of who they are and irrespective of what particular disabilities they may have. In short...systemic protections exist in order to promote equity.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Reply #213 - Jan 10^th, 2023 at 8:34pm Agnes. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2023 at 8:08pm: f/uck off Smith- Where the Hell have you been? Never mind .... you're here now!
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Reply #214 - Jan 10^th, 2023 at 9:08pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2023 at 8:25pm:

Agnes. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2023 at 8:08pm:

f/uck off Smith-

Haven't you got a homeless bum to blow?

👆 I'll just leave that there. For everyone to see just how deranged, disturbed and disrespectful this destructive cyber junkie troll really is.

I would now like to say something about Freediver and the GMods especially during this holiday period: I actually feel sorry for the filth and garbage they see smeared across a site which I think STILL has a lot of potential. And for the cleaning up they're left to contend with. The same may be said regarding Sub Forum Mods. Despicable and disgusting dribble day in/day out. It's why my husband and oldest son refuse to join up! Had they joined up this site would have had a new sub forum or 2. In fact I've had discussions with Freediver about this. And these discussions involved Frank and John Taverner too. It would have been exciting and interesting (as well as refreshing) to have this happen.

Not to worry ... it's not happening anymore. Why? We're not smart and humane on OzPol. We prefer to remain hateful and toxic.

"Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic"

👆 This topic heading has been staring at us for days and our conscience has failed to pick up its irony or the challenge to undertake some measure of introspection.

Anyway. Night. i

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Reply #215 - Jan 10^th, 2023 at 9:08pm Flip
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Reply #216 - Jan 11^th, 2023 at 6:47am

Belgarion wrote on Jan 10^th, 2023 at 8:05pm:

Her autism is raised in the context of the exploitation of a mentally ill child by those who wanted a medium for their propaganda.

Who exploited her?

If you knew enough to give validity to the vehemence of your criticism, you'd know nobody, absolutely nobody exploited her.

Her parents were opposed to activism and only relented when they saw the drastic improvement in Greta when she became active.

And absolutely everything Greta says is peer reviewed scientific consensus.

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Reply #217 - Jan 11^th, 2023 at 6:53am

mothra wrote on Jan 11^th, 2023 at 6:47am:

Belgarion wrote on Jan 10^th, 2023 at 8:05pm:

Her autism is raised in the context of the exploitation of a mentally ill child by those who wanted a medium for their propaganda.

Who exploited her?

If you knew enough to give validity to the vehemence of your criticism, you'd know nobody, absolutely nobody exploited her.

Her parents were opposed to activism and only relented when they saw the drastic improvement in Greta when she became active.

And absolutely everything Greta says is peer reviewed scientific consensus.

Bollocks.

Not going to school does absolutely nothing for atmospheric CO2, endangered species, market regulation, kids' futures etc.

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Reply #218 - Jan 11^th, 2023 at 6:56am

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2023 at 6:53am:

mothra wrote on Jan 11^th, 2023 at 6:47am:

Belgarion wrote on Jan 10^th, 2023 at 8:05pm:

Her autism is raised in the context of the exploitation of a mentally ill child by those who wanted a medium for their propaganda.

Who exploited her?

If you knew enough to give validity to the vehemence of your criticism, you'd know nobody, absolutely nobody exploited her.

Her parents were opposed to activism and only relented when they saw the drastic improvement in Greta when she became active.

And absolutely everything Greta says is peer reviewed scientific consensus.

Bollocks.

Not going to school does absolutely nothing for atmospheric CO2, endangered species, market regulation, kids' futures etc.

You've zero imagination, have you.

Greta has moved mountains for climate science and the advocacy of it. More than just about any other.

And she is loved.

And doesn't it just give you the screaming irrits.

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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5458 Gender:	Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic Reply #219 - Jan 11^th, 2023 at 7:29am We are seeing the cunning of the environazi tactics in this very forum, with the deranged defence of the child prophet by the likes of Mothra and Smith.
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Reply #220 - Jan 11^th, 2023 at 7:33am

Belgarion wrote on Jan 11^th, 2023 at 7:29am:

We are seeing the cunning of the environazi tactics in this very forum, with the deranged defence of the child prophet by the likes of Mothra and Smith. Roll Eyes

Is that seriously the best you have to offer as means of rebuttal?

I suppose i'm not overly surprised. Disappointed. Again. But not surprised.

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Reply #221 - Jan 11^th, 2023 at 8:30am

All cultures appear to have a fascination with precocious and loquacious children who make wild predictions or metaphysical statements that are deemed, given the child's lack of earned knowledge, to have come from the other side, and were once considered child saints.

Interest in their prognostications rapidly wanes, however, as the child passes through puberty and into adulthood; and sometimes descends from being deemed divine to demonic or, at best, the mad ramblings of a child.

Even Thunberg herself is showing signs that her faith in her former method of delivery was driven more by her naivety (and her ASD) than inspired by a god.

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Reply #222 - Jan 11^th, 2023 at 8:40am

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2023 at 8:02pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jan 10^th, 2023 at 7:02am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9^th, 2023 at 6:38pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 9^th, 2023 at 4:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9^th, 2023 at 2:27pm:

who is really the weaker person?

1. those who admire a young slightly autistic woman for standing up for what she believes or those
or
2. those who have to denigrate a teenage girl to make themselves feel better?

Being autistic and fervent doesn't make her right. Unsung emotional blackmail makes her almost certainly wrong.

Nobody disagrees with Greta to 'make themselves feel better'. They disagree with her because they think she is wrong.

Crap. They're free to make a case against her arguments by using science etc but they can't so they attack her autism. Not only are they idiots whohave been shown up by a teenage girl, they're cowards as well.

By the way you fall under the 'they' I refer to Kiss

And here we have the reason that Greta was chosen to be the face of environazi propaganda. Any questioning of her message is called an attack on a mentally ill child. Much easier than having to answer difficult questions. Roll Eyes

And yet it's your mob that keeps raising her autism as if it's relevant . You want t question her message, question her message. When you attack her for her autism than it's not her message that's the issue

You must have been asleep at the wheel.

Her autism was used as leverage by those around her to increase her amazingness.... or by those who think the sun shines out of her & prickle up when she & what she espouses is criticised.

You? Roll Eyes

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Reply #223 - Jan 11^th, 2023 at 8:43am

mothra wrote on Jan 11^th, 2023 at 6:47am:

Belgarion wrote on Jan 10^th, 2023 at 8:05pm:

Her autism is raised in the context of the exploitation of a mentally ill child by those who wanted a medium for their propaganda.

Who exploited her?

If you knew enough to give validity to the vehemence of your criticism, you'd know nobody, absolutely nobody exploited her.

Her parents were opposed to activism and only relented when they saw the drastic improvement in Greta when she became active.

And absolutely everything Greta says is peer reviewed scientific consensus.

bought science?

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Reply #224 - Jan 11^th, 2023 at 8:56am

Belgarion wrote on Jan 11^th, 2023 at 7:29am:

We are seeing the cunning of the environazi tactics in this very forum, with the deranged defence of the child prophet by the likes of Mothra and Smith. Roll Eyes

Both these unemployed cyber junkie trolls are deranged. That's why their tactics are deranged. Neither have a clue about what they're posting...just out of context googled sentences thrown here and there often echoing each other's nonsense driven rants.

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