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Reply #240 - Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:23pm  
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 11:30am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:08pm:
"Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic"

👆 This topic heading has been staring at us for days and our conscience has failed to pick up its irony or the challenge to undertake some measure of introspection.


The topic heading is actually correct; and Greta is on the side of those promoting a  new green sustainable economy for planet earth, versus  the toxic POS on the side of the filthy (literally) toxic fossil price gougers.



Grin Funny how you can't have one without the other.  Give that a thought.i
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Reply #241 - Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:27pm  
Belgarion wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:29am:
We are seeing the cunning of the environazi tactics in this very forum, with the deranged defence of the child prophet by the likes of Mothra and Smith.  Roll Eyes


More blowing hot air with little substance. Refute her claims or admit that you're a cretin who bullies kids. You've had ample opportunity to refute her claims but so far all you've done is attack her for having autism, and then attacked those who called you out on your bully boy tactics.
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Reply #242 - Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:27pm  
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 10:17am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 1:39pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 12:50pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 12:31pm:
Net worth $1m ....


Funny..... the guy we all agree is a POS is worth $700 million (according to google).

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what has she actually achieved with all this kid grandstanding that plays so well to a supine media?


All 193 nations signed up to Paris (zero carbon emissions by 2050) . 

Problems for the capitalist free market, and end of days for the fossil-energy price gougers. 


China didn't. Funny how you conveniently omitted that. Not. 😐


I already explained to you that China and India , the developing  Asian giants who are still confronted with eradicating poverty  - 700 million in relative poverty in China's case, owing to the massive advances achieved by the CCP in the last 4 decades, cf 700 million still in absolute poverty in India's case, owing to the inferiority  of democratic free market capitalism in India  cf, the combined "socialist' planning and free market capitalism in China -  have committed to 2060,  a decade later than 2050.  Reasonable. given the huge task for those two most populous countries. cf minnows like Oz who could easily transition to 100%  renewables by 2040.


You omitted China then when confronted you lied about their commitment. Again by way of omission.

You're quite the fraud. Irrespective of the id you jump into.
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Reply #243 - Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:28pm  
A friendly reminder to all - please consider your health and wellbeing before responding to the insanity posted by long term global cyber junkie trolls like Methra or Frodo.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:33pm:
Ignore Frodo! He never finished primary school. Nor has he held a proper job in his entire life!

A child who has autism OR ANY medical diagnosis for that matter needs to be treated appropriately so as to ensure they are not taken advantage of. Only a cold callous human being would pretend or carry on as though that diagnosis doesn't exist or is irrelevant.

Exhibit 1 - Frodo

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it's your mob that keeps raising her autism as if it's relevant


Note : We will all have to excuse Frodo who loves using Aboriginal terms like YOUR MOB to describe groupings within OzPol.

Exhibit 2 - Methra <--- In her case please refer back to pages and pages of utter gastric BS most of which the moron operating the Methra ID has once again googled out of context.

Note : Groggy would have been Exhibit 3 but he's STILL waiting for permission by Methra to enter this topic. And he's not yet been told what he's allowed to post by Methra. So just to be sure let's pencil him in as Exhibit 3. For now.

Back to the topic ... it's extremely relevant and important that a person's capacity is noted. Even at law people with autism OR any brain or mind linked disability are protected/treated differently in order to ensure they stay SAFE! Note : congenital or acquired neurological issues accompany mental health issues. It's not a case of either/or. These interact and mutually affect behaviour patterns and how to process information etc.

Bottom line? The REAL hateful and toxic individuals in this topic are those who have demonstrated a total disregard and disrespect for children. Children are a well recognised vulnerable group within our society. For this reason our governments have Child Protection mechanisms and safety nets in place covering all 3 levels of govt.

Children WITH disabilities/diagnoses etc .... even more so. In fact, particular legislations exist in addition to case law precedents which serve to ensure that all children remain protected irrespective of who they are and irrespective of what particular disabilities they may have. In short...systemic protections exist in order to promote equity.






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Reply #244 - Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:30pm  
Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:40am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:02pm:
Belgarion wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 7:02am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 6:38pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:48pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:27pm:
who is really the weaker person?

1. those who admire a young slightly autistic woman for standing up for what she believes or those
or
2. those who have to denigrate a teenage girl to make themselves feel better?



Being autistic and fervent doesn't make her right. Unsung emotional blackmail makes her almost certainly wrong.

Nobody disagrees with Greta to 'make themselves feel better'. They disagree with her because they think she is wrong.



Crap. They're free to make a case against her arguments  by using science etc but they can't so they attack her autism.  Not only are they idiots whohave been shown up by a teenage girl,  they're cowards as well.

By the way you fall under the  'they' I refer to  Kiss


And here we have the reason that Greta was chosen to be the face of environazi propaganda. Any questioning of her message is called an attack on a mentally ill child. Much easier than having to answer difficult questions.  Roll Eyes


And yet it's your mob that keeps raising her autism as if it's relevant . You want t question her message,  question her message.  When you attack her for her autism than it's not her message that's the issue



You must have been asleep at the wheel.

Her autism was used as leverage by those around her to increase her amazingness.... or by those who think the sun shines out of her & prickle up when she & what she espouses is criticised.

You?  Roll Eyes



You just keep spewing out the crap as if you think repeating it makes it more believable .. no one has mentioned her autism except for internet hero's who like to bully kids. I know you think your (pathetic) excuses are a credible substitute for debate but I've got bad news for you, they're not.
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Reply #245 - Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:34pm  
John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:27pm:
Belgarion wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:29am:
We are seeing the cunning of the environazi tactics in this very forum, with the deranged defence of the child prophet by the likes of Mothra and Smith.  Roll Eyes


More blowing hot air with little substance. Refute her claims or admit that you're a cretin who bullies kids. You've had ample opportunity to refute her claims but so far all you've done is attack her for having autism, and then attacked those who called you out on your bully boy tactics.

It's clear we can't just de-commit from fossil fuels (as the Ukraine-Russia war has proved); solar power is viable only in countries with high sunshine hours - not so good in Europe, Eurasia and North America, and a viable option is nuclear energy production - even Thunberg is starting to accept all this now.
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Reply #246 - Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:36pm  
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 11:30am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:08pm:
"Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic"

👆 This topic heading has been staring at us for days and our conscience has failed to pick up its irony or the challenge to undertake some measure of introspection.


The topic heading is actually correct; and Greta is on the side of those promoting a  new green sustainable economy for planet earth, versus  the toxic POS on the side of the filthy (literally) toxic fossil price gougers.


Grin So far, in reality you can't have one without the other.  Give that a thought.
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Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic
Reply #247 - Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:38pm  
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 10:35am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:56am:
Belgarion wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 7:29am:
We are seeing the cunning of the environazi tactics in this very forum, with the deranged defence of the child prophet by the likes of Mothra and Smith.  Roll Eyes


Both these unemployed cyber junkie trolls are deranged. That's why their tactics are deranged. Neither have a clue about what they're posting...just out of context googled sentences thrown here and there often echoing each other's nonsense driven rants.


No, rather the blindly self-interested RW deplorables/rednecks  - all ego and no conscience  - cannot confront the coming destruction of their cherished greedy form of free market capitalism. 



Ahh so now you've googled something which you think is new but which I heard at age 20 when I was at Uni. And for all the gloom and doom prophecies of rabid communists (like you) .... capitalism is still here and communism is virtually extinct.

If only you had bothered with getting a tertiary education. Oh and a job. Yes .... a job....one which was above board and required you to pay tax. Your outlook on life would not have been so self destructive.


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Re: Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic
Reply #248 - Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:39pm  
Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:36pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 11:30am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:08pm:
"Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic"

👆 This topic heading has been staring at us for days and our conscience has failed to pick up its irony or the challenge to undertake some measure of introspection.


The topic heading is actually correct; and Greta is on the side of those promoting a  new green sustainable economy for planet earth, versus  the toxic POS on the side of the filthy (literally) toxic fossil price gougers.


Grin So far, in reality you can't have one without the other.  Give that a thought.


One needs a functioning brain in order to think.

All NotsoGreat has is sore fingers. And Google.
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Reply #249 - Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:41pm  
John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:30pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:40am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:02pm:
Belgarion wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 7:02am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 6:38pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:48pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:27pm:
who is really the weaker person?

1. those who admire a young slightly autistic woman for standing up for what she believes or those
or
2. those who have to denigrate a teenage girl to make themselves feel better?



Being autistic and fervent doesn't make her right. Unsung emotional blackmail makes her almost certainly wrong.

Nobody disagrees with Greta to 'make themselves feel better'. They disagree with her because they think she is wrong.



Crap. They're free to make a case against her arguments  by using science etc but they can't so they attack her autism.  Not only are they idiots whohave been shown up by a teenage girl,  they're cowards as well.

By the way you fall under the  'they' I refer to  Kiss


And here we have the reason that Greta was chosen to be the face of environazi propaganda. Any questioning of her message is called an attack on a mentally ill child. Much easier than having to answer difficult questions.  Roll Eyes


And yet it's your mob that keeps raising her autism as if it's relevant . You want t question her message,  question her message.  When you attack her for her autism than it's not her message that's the issue



You must have been asleep at the wheel.

Her autism was used as leverage by those around her to increase her amazingness.... or by those who think the sun shines out of her & prickle up when she & what she espouses is criticised.

You?  Roll Eyes



You just keep spewing out the crap as if you think repeating it makes it more believable .. no one has mentioned her autism except for internet hero's who like to bully kids. I know you think your (pathetic) excuses are a credible substitute for debate but I've got bad news for you, they're not.


You looking in the mirror typing that?

That's exactly the response leftoids like you gave when she was first criticised.

"Oh you big brave adult bullies picking on a young girl who is on the AS. Do you get any pleasure out of that?"

blah blah phukkin blah.

Take your own advice Smithy you pherkin hypocrite.
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Reply #250 - Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:50pm  
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 6:38pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:48pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:27pm:
who is really the weaker person?

1. those who admire a young slightly autistic woman for standing up for what she believes or those
or
2. those who have to denigrate a teenage girl to make themselves feel better?



Being autistic and fervent doesn't make her right. Unsung emotional blackmail makes her almost certainly wrong.

Nobody disagrees with Greta to 'make themselves feel better'. They disagree with her because they think she is wrong.



Crap. They're free to make a case against her arguments  by using science etc but they can't so they attack her autism.  Not only are they idiots whohave been shown up by a teenage girl,  they're cowards as well.

By the way you fall under the  'they' I refer to  Kiss


Skolstrejk for klimatet is not scientific and you can't argue against it scientifically. It's a ratbag adolescent's idea aided and encouraged by Greta's parents, especially mother. Her father is an obscure, minor actor but her mother is an opera singer, a Eurovision entrant (say no mor, guv'ner), Swedens environmental ambassador for the World Wildelife Fund and co-author of a book titled Our House is on Fire: Scenes of a Family And A Planet In Crisis.
Science that!
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Reply #251 - Jan 11th, 2023 at 2:16pm  
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:38pm:
Ahh so now you've googled something which you think is new but which I heard at age 20 when I was at Uni.


Didn't google it at all, macroeconomists are grappling with orthodox, unsustainable 'unlimited growth' market economic policies right now. 

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And for all the gloom and doom prophecies of rabid communists (like you) .... capitalism is still here and communism is virtually extinct.
 

The doom and gloom came from people studying the planet's ecological limits, not debates re capitalism versus communism, which date back to the Great Depression when American workers left the US to work in the USSR...   

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If only you had bothered with getting a tertiary education. Oh and a job. Yes .... a job....one which was above board and required you to pay tax. Your outlook on life would not have been so self destructive.


Your education has left you as useless  as the current crop of neoclassical  Nobel Prize  winners (without  their brains, if course).
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Reply #252 - Jan 11th, 2023 at 2:24pm  
Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:50pm:
Skolstrejk for klimatet is not scientific and you can't argue against it scientifically. It's a ratbag adolescent's idea aided and encouraged by Greta's parents, especially mother. Her father is an obscure, minor actor but her mother is an opera singer, a Eurovision entrant (say no mor, guv'ner), Swedens environmental ambassador for the World Wildelife Fund and co-author of a book titled Our House is on Fire: Scenes of a Family And A Planet In Crisis.
Science that!
https://www.booktopia.com.au/covers/big/9780143133575/8416/our-house-is-on-fire....


Wrong analysis, as usual Frank.

'strike for climate' is an activist movement begun by Greta who believes in the  IPCC science /UN consensus.
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Reply #253 - Jan 11th, 2023 at 2:30pm  
Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:36pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 11:30am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 9:08pm:
"Smart and humane versus hateful and toxic"

👆 This topic heading has been staring at us for days and our conscience has failed to pick up its irony or the challenge to undertake some measure of introspection.


The topic heading is actually correct; and Greta is on the side of those promoting a  new green sustainable economy for planet earth, versus  the toxic POS on the side of the filthy (literally) toxic fossil price gougers.


Grin So far, in reality you can't have one without the other.  Give that a thought.


Er... the goal is to transition from the present filthy literally toxic) , fossil-price-gougers' economy (touted by Tate), to a clean green renewable economy (advocated by Greta).

Not much to think about, really.



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Reply #254 - Jan 11th, 2023 at 3:03pm  
Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:41pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 1:30pm:
Gnads wrote on Jan 11th, 2023 at 8:40am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 8:02pm:
Belgarion wrote on Jan 10th, 2023 at 7:02am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 6:38pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:48pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:27pm:
who is really the weaker person?

1. those who admire a young slightly autistic woman for standing up for what she believes or those
or
2. those who have to denigrate a teenage girl to make themselves feel better?



Being autistic and fervent doesn't make her right. Unsung emotional blackmail makes her almost certainly wrong.

Nobody disagrees with Greta to 'make themselves feel better'. They disagree with her because they think she is wrong.



Crap. They're free to make a case against her arguments  by using science etc but they can't so they attack her autism.  Not only are they idiots whohave been shown up by a teenage girl,  they're cowards as well.

By the way you fall under the  'they' I refer to  Kiss


And here we have the reason that Greta was chosen to be the face of environazi propaganda. Any questioning of her message is called an attack on a mentally ill child. Much easier than having to answer difficult questions.  Roll Eyes


And yet it's your mob that keeps raising her autism as if it's relevant . You want t question her message,  question her message.  When you attack her for her autism than it's not her message that's the issue



You must have been asleep at the wheel.

Her autism was used as leverage by those around her to increase her amazingness.... or by those who think the sun shines out of her & prickle up when she & what she espouses is criticised.

You?  Roll Eyes



You just keep spewing out the crap as if you think repeating it makes it more believable .. no one has mentioned her autism except for internet hero's who like to bully kids. I know you think your (pathetic) excuses are a credible substitute for debate but I've got bad news for you, they're not.


You looking in the mirror typing that?

That's exactly the response leftoids like you gave when she was first criticised.

"Oh you big brave adult bullies picking on a young girl who is on the AS. Do you get any pleasure out of that?"

blah blah phukkin blah.

Take your own advice Smithy you pherkin hypocrite.


bugger off idiot, I'll bet money that you only got that response when your comments where about her age, her autism or her personality. Not once did you get that response when the argument was about her science.  Try again dipshit
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