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Reply #15 - Jan 21st, 2023 at 3:13pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 1:57pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 7:01am:
Are you even allowed to have an opinion on Saudi Arabia?


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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15th, 2013 at 5:39pm:
I make no excuses for those nations and their laws, BV.  I merely recognise that it is their right to create and unfortunately impose those punishments.   It is terrible but I also recognise I have no right or ability to criticise them.  I am neither a member of their religion or a citizen of any of those nations.

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Reply #16 - Jan 21st, 2023 at 5:06pm
 
Brian is an institutionalised boy.
He couldn't think for himself if he tried.  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #17 - Jan 21st, 2023 at 5:18pm
 
Dear Lisa j,


Thanks for the long posts on Women's Rights but do we really have to read through a yellow swamp ? OK, yellow is my least favourite colour. , in fact large areas of it induce nausea.
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Reply #18 - Jan 21st, 2023 at 5:22pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:19am:


Probably because Australia made those kinds of strides in women's rights over 100 years ago. This is an "about phuckin' time" story from Saudi Arabia.
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Reply #19 - Jan 21st, 2023 at 5:57pm
 
We'll have to wait and see just how free Saud actually becomes. I doubt any decree is going to make a difference in the short term, we are talking about Islam remember, and its riddled with repression, revenge, sectarian hatred, misogyny and honor killings.
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Reply #20 - Jan 22nd, 2023 at 1:58pm
 
That's why white women love becoming their extra wives and concubines.
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Reply #21 - Jan 22nd, 2023 at 2:57pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 7:01am:
Are you even allowed to have an opinion on Saudi Arabia?

Well Saudi residents living in the country certainly aren't.

And how ironic that a woman—Fatimah Almathami—who
claims that Saudi Arabia is loosening up its strict moral
and ethical codes—is still forced into wearing a hijab.

...

And I know she'd say it's her choice to wear her religious rags,
but we all know that's an untruth—Almathami is afraid not to
for fear of male retribution directed towards her, possibly violent.

THIS article talks about some women who've decide for different
reasons to stop wearing hijab.

One of the women says, after removing her hijab, "I felt 'innocent'
of the political issues plaguing this  country, I felt none of the
accountability I usually shoulder. I felt like I shed all of the
stereotypes in one act of removing the hijab."


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Reply #22 - Jan 22nd, 2023 at 9:57pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Jan 22nd, 2023 at 2:57pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 7:01am:
Are you even allowed to have an opinion on Saudi Arabia?

Well Saudi residents living in the country certainly aren't.

And how ironic that a woman—Fatimah Almathami—who
claims that Saudi Arabia is loosening up its strict moral
and ethical codes—is still forced into wearing a hijab.

https://i.postimg.cc/xC7LtvDf/Screenshot-2023-01-22-at-15-14-22-Saudi-Arabia-is-...

And I know she'd say it's her choice to wear her religious rags,
but we all know that's an untruth—Almathami is afraid not to
for fear of male retribution directed towards her, possibly violent.

THIS article talks about some women who've decide for different
reasons to stop wearing hijab.

One of the women says, after removing her hijab, "I felt 'innocent'
of the political issues plaguing this  country, I felt none of the
accountability I usually shoulder. I felt like I shed all of the
stereotypes in one act of removing the hijab."




The Hijab is supposed to cover hair.

Iranian women started showing hair under Hijab as a protest to mandatory Hijab.


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Reply #23 - Jan 22nd, 2023 at 10:09pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 17th, 2023 at 1:10pm:
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Women’s Rights

Despite some reforms, authorities continue to implement a male guardianship system requiring women to obtain male guardian permission to get married, leave prison, or obtain some forms of sexual and reproductive healthcare.  Husbands reportedly can withhold consent if a woman seeks higher education abroad.

In March, Saudi lawmakers passed the country’s first codified personal status law. However, despite Saudi authorities’ promises for a “comprehensive” and “progressive” personal status law, the law entrenches discriminatory provisions on women in marriage, divorce, inheritance, and decisions relating to children. Rather than dismantling it, the law instead codifies male guardianship and sets out provisions that can facilitate and excuse domestic violence including sexual abuse in marriage.

Women are required to have their male guardian’s permission in order to marry. Once married, women are required to then obey their husbands in a “reasonable manner.”  Articles 42 and 55 together state a husband’s financial support is specifically made contingent on a wife’s “obedience” to the husband, and she can lose her right to such support if she refuses without a “legitimate excuse” to have sex with him, move to or live in the marital home, or travel with him.
Article 42(3) states that neither spouse may abstain from sexual relations or cohabitation with the other without the other spouse’s consent, implying a marital right to intercourse.


Article 9 declares the legal age of marriage as 18 but allows courts to authorize the marriage of a child under 18 if they have reached puberty and if it can be proved that the marriage provides an “established benefit” to the child.

While men can unilaterally divorce women, women can only petition a court to dissolve their marriage contract on limited grounds and must “establish harm” as a prerequisite. The law does not specify what constitutes “harm” or what evidence can be submitted to support a case, leaving room for judges’ discretion in interpretation and enforcement.

Elements of the male guardianship system that remain in practice can prevent a divorced woman from financial independence. For example, a man can funnel post-divorce financial support payments to his ex-wife through her male relative if she lives with her family post-divorce, denying her direct access to the payments.

Under the Saudi Personal Status Law, fathers are the default guardians of their children. Even if the authorities order the children to live with their mothers, women have limited authority over their children’s lives and cannot act as guardians of children unless a court appoints them. The 2016  and 2019 legal amendments allowing mothers with primary custody of their children to apply for passports, provide travel permission, and obtain important documents for their children without a male guardian are seemingly inconsistently applied. 


When they say neither spouse may abstain from sex they're talking about the 4 wives muslim men are allowed to have it doesn't apply to men.

The Saudi constitution says Quran and Sunnah are the constitution.

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Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.
https://legacy.quran.com/4/34


There you go Allah the most merciful of those who show mercy allows wife beating if you fear disobedience. It's easy to forsake one of your wives in bed if she is disobedient when you have 4 wives.

Muhammad got busted banging his copitc christian slave girl Maria.
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It was narrated from Anas, that the Messenger of Allah had a female slave with whom he had intercourse, but 'Aishah and Hafsah would not leave him alone until he said that she was forbidden for him. Then Allah, the Mighty and Sublime, revealed:
"O Prophet! Why do you forbid (for yourself) that which Allah has allowed to you.' until the end of the Verse.

https://sunnah.com/nasai:3959


His wives were really upset with him banging Maria so Allah sent a revelation just in time to bring peace to his household.

As punishment for his disobedient wives for complaing about him banging Maria he did not have sex with any of his wives for a month. In that month he was banging Maria who gave him his only son Ibrahim who died before his 2nd birthday.

Muslims claim Muhammad is the perfect example of a man.  Roll Eyes


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Reply #24 - Jan 23rd, 2023 at 10:09am
 
Upon the Temple of Ur, the worship (wonder) of Sin (Luna) above in the skies - inspired directly, the innovation of the world's first official creation of 'Writing'.
For a long time, this gift of Sin upon the Temple of Ur - participated in Sumerian life for ages. Used primarily for logistical reasons, scientific reasons (like innovations) and harvests, weather, etc. Those in charge of recording such things in the Cuniform Writing were regarded as Sin-Urs (Sinners) Those of Ur who worship Ab-Sin-nanna.

...then, one day - a man called Zarathustra decided to gather all the local pagan myths and stories and compile them into one almighty story of his own interpretation. Thus - the world's first official Religion was created. Known today via the Greek translation as Zoroastrianism. The first Monotheism although it still incorporated a Duality between Good and Evil.

The Age of Zarathustra's Religion grew and the world of the boring reality of Sumeria in the hands of the Sin-Urs soon vanished to 'god knows' where?

The Babylonians knew a good thing when they saw it and made a Company take-over of Sumeria and cashed in on the latest fad of innovation: Religion.

From Zarathustra's Monotheism (One story to rule over all the little pagan stories and that one story just happened to be Zarathustra's) - who was paid handsomely in royalties for his niche market. Sprang a 'new' Religion via a guy called Adam and his wife Eve - who were dirt poor and mostly naked for clothes were for the rich. They called it 'Jew' (after a fish) and told the story of their own family tree and thus writing 'immortalised' their own bloodline in stone for years to follow. Adam & Eve had found another niche market for Writing and the Religion of Judaism started to grow. Everyone wanted to be part of the family.

Thus the first child of Zoroastrianism was born.

...then the rest is history (via writing at least) with two more sons born in Christianity and Mohommedism.

                        
                              Sin-Ur
                                  I
                                  I
                                  I
                                  I
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                         Zoroastrianism (Middle-East)
                                  I
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        I                         I                            I
        I                         I                            I
  Judaism             Christianity           Mohommedism
  (Asia)                 (Europe)                 (Africa)


These three sons of Zarathustra's Monotheism were created to be themed on the threee surrounding old worlds of Asia, Europe, Africa.
Where the Jews got rich off all the little yellow people in Asia and Moslems bred like mice under the watch of a token black man from Africa. While Christians just conquered the inhabitants of Europe and made them slaves to Religion rather than Medicine and Music which they were quite fond off in their Age of Faerie before Writing put a stop to all that nonsense.


...but now, the New Worlds have changed the ball game and Europe, Asia & Africa are waking up to the lies that the Religions from the Middle-East have made for them.


...btw - whatever did happen to those Sin-Ur chaps at the start? Was Buzz Aldrin a Sin-Ur? Afterall - he saved the mission with a Pen from his pocket.
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Reply #25 - Jan 24th, 2023 at 5:41pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 17th, 2023 at 9:23am:
Do you have an opinion you are brave enough to share with us Brian?


I have a question, FD. Up for it?
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Reply #26 - Jan 24th, 2023 at 5:43pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 2:02pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 1:57pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 21st, 2023 at 7:01am:
Are you even allowed to have an opinion on Saudi Arabia?


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Will you answer mine or others' questions, Freediver?  I might answer yours...  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



What IS your question, poncy prick? I bet you don't remember.



I have one for you too, old boy.

Brave enough?
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