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Australian model for achieve peace in Ukraine
Jan 17^th, 2023 at 10:54am

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.
Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.

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Re: Australian model for achieve peace in Ukraine
Reply #1 - Jan 17^th, 2023 at 11:14am

athos wrote on Jan 17^th, 2023 at 10:54am:

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.
Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.

Yes, but some blacks in Oz want a separate nation, though with 'shared sovereignty'. They won't get it.

Whereas apparently Ukrainians want a separate nation, and are prepared to die for it.

Putin should have argued the matter to death in the UN, who might have accepted return of Crimea to Russia, and other arrangements to deal with Russians in East Ukraine; now he is on a path to catastrophe as he risks slowly being destroyed by the superior combined productive capacity of NATO/US. Britain is sending its latest tanks (Challenger 2) to Ukraine, while the US is only too happy to use the Ukrainians as cannon fodder, to destroy Russia's military capability.

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Re: Australian model for achieve peace in Ukraine
Reply #2 - Jan 17^th, 2023 at 12:02pm

athos wrote on Jan 17^th, 2023 at 10:54am:

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.
Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.

I don't think Australia has ever handed control of our military to an enemy state.

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Re: Australian model for achieve peace in Ukraine
Reply #3 - Jan 17^th, 2023 at 12:33pm

athos wrote on Jan 17^th, 2023 at 10:54am:

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.

Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.

1. Australia is still considering its position re becoming a Republic.

2. Ukrainians do not speak Russian. From Wiki:

Ukrainian (native name: украї́нська мо́ва, romanized: ukrainska mova, IPA: [ʊkrɐˈjinʲsʲkɐ ˈmɔʋɐ]) is an East Slavic language of the Indo-European language family. It is the native language of about 40 million people and the official state language of Ukraine in Eastern Europe. Written Ukrainian uses the Ukrainian alphabet, a variant of the Cyrillic script.

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Re: Australian model for achieve peace in Ukraine
Reply #4 - Jan 17^th, 2023 at 12:46pm

freediver wrote on Jan 17^th, 2023 at 12:02pm:

athos wrote on Jan 17^th, 2023 at 10:54am:

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.
Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.

I don't think Australia has ever handed control of our military to an enemy state.

Are you saying that Britain is an enemy state to Australia?????????
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Re: Australian model for achieve peace in Ukraine
Reply #5 - Jan 17^th, 2023 at 12:56pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 17^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

athos wrote on Jan 17^th, 2023 at 10:54am:

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.

Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.

1. Australia is still considering its position re becoming a Republic.

2. Ukrainians do not speak Russian. From Wiki:

Ukrainian (native name: украї́нська мо́ва, romanized: ukrainska mova, IPA: [ʊkrɐˈjinʲsʲkɐ ˈmɔʋɐ]) is an East Slavic language of the Indo-European language family. It is the native language of about 40 million people and the official state language of Ukraine in Eastern Europe. Written Ukrainian uses the Ukrainian alphabet, a variant of the Cyrillic script.

1. The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia. This is the reality. What you want is your own desire.

2. The Australian Aborigines did not know English, but they had to learn to speak it. The so-called "Ukrainian" language is only one of the dialects of the Russian language.

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Reply #6 - Jan 17^th, 2023 at 1:41pm

athos wrote on Jan 17^th, 2023 at 12:56pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 17^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

athos wrote on Jan 17^th, 2023 at 10:54am:

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.

Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.

1. Australia is still considering its position re becoming a Republic.

2. Ukrainians do not speak Russian. From Wiki:

Ukrainian (native name: украї́нська мо́ва, romanized: ukrainska mova, IPA: [ʊkrɐˈjinʲsʲkɐ ˈmɔʋɐ]) is an East Slavic language of the Indo-European language family. It is the native language of about 40 million people and the official state language of Ukraine in Eastern Europe. Written Ukrainian uses the Ukrainian alphabet, a variant of the Cyrillic script.

1. The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia. This is the reality. What you want is your own desire.

2. The Australian Aborigines did not know English, but they had to learn to speak it.

The so-called "Ukrainian" language is only one of the dialects of the Russian language.

Is it now? Well I asked the question elsewhere.

👇 This is typical of the responses I received:

They are different languages! I have a somewhat decent level in Russian but i can’t understand Ukrainian. Of course due to historical reasons you will hear Ukrainian speakers say some Russian words, but that’s it.

For those who may not know it's kinda like comparing Croatian to Serbian.

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Reply #7 - Jan 17^th, 2023 at 2:34pm

I like how Australians big-note themselves by saying
"Australia is considering becoming a Republic." as if brave defiance against Britain. Grin

I reckon Charles can't wait to give Australia the 'flick' and remove the Union Jack from the Australian Flag, remove all 'Royal' titles in the Military, etc, etc. The British sure as hell couldn't wait to give many people the flick 200 years ago by sending them here. Grin

Chances are that William will conduct this

GREAT REJECTION

of Australia's entitlements.

On the flip side - you have these Australian 'Media' loonies running around crying for a Republic every friggin Election with absolutely no idea on what kind of a Republic they should have. Most are Celebrities and base their Republic models on being a 51st State of America with a 'President' as the Head of State and an anti-English Irish cliche republic - again, because they can't be original, even down here in the Southern Hemisphere where Whitey has never been before.

They cry "We want a Republic!" in defiance of Britain, but they're all the biggest suck jobs and rimmers to the USA if you've ever seen em.

No. The best thing Athos is send all the Slaves here to Australia. That would solve the problem in Europe.

Western (Celtic) Europeans to N.America
Southern (Latin) Europeans to Oceania
Eastern (Slavic) Europeans to Sahul
...leaving the Northern (Skandi) Europeans to clean up the mess they all left behind.

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Reply #8 - Jan 17^th, 2023 at 3:09pm

athos wrote on Jan 17^th, 2023 at 12:46pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 17^th, 2023 at 12:02pm:

athos wrote on Jan 17^th, 2023 at 10:54am:

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.
Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.

I don't think Australia has ever handed control of our military to an enemy state.

Are you saying that Britain is an enemy state to Australia?????????
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No athos.

Have you ever been to Australia?

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Reply #9 - Jan 17^th, 2023 at 3:38pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 17^th, 2023 at 1:41pm:

athos wrote on Jan 17^th, 2023 at 12:56pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 17^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

athos wrote on Jan 17^th, 2023 at 10:54am:

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.

Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.

1. Australia is still considering its position re becoming a Republic.

2. Ukrainians do not speak Russian. From Wiki:

Ukrainian (native name: украї́нська мо́ва, romanized: ukrainska mova, IPA: [ʊkrɐˈjinʲsʲkɐ ˈmɔʋɐ]) is an East Slavic language of the Indo-European language family. It is the native language of about 40 million people and the official state language of Ukraine in Eastern Europe. Written Ukrainian uses the Ukrainian alphabet, a variant of the Cyrillic script.

1. The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia. This is the reality. What you want is your own desire.

2. The Australian Aborigines did not know English, but they had to learn to speak it.

The so-called "Ukrainian" language is only one of the dialects of the Russian language.

Is it now? Well I asked the question elsewhere.

👇 This is typical of the responses I received:

They are different languages! I have a somewhat decent level in Russian but i can’t understand Ukrainian. Of course due to historical reasons you will hear Ukrainian speakers say some Russian words, but that’s it.

For those who may not know it's kinda like comparing Croatian to Serbian.

The fact is that Croats and Serbs use the same language (with different dialects) and can perfectly understand each other.

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Reply #10 - Jan 17^th, 2023 at 4:12pm

athos wrote on Jan 17^th, 2023 at 10:54am:

Many agree that the war in Ukraine should end as soon as possible in order to prevent the catastrophic consequences of that conflict.
One of the ways to achieve long-term peace in Ukraine, considering the real situation on the ground, is the application of the Australian model of the political system, which has proven to be very successful.
As we know, the Australian political system is based on the continuity of belonging of Australia and the majority of its citizens to the British (Anglo-Saxon) historical, national and cultural identity, just as it is the case with Ukraine and Russia. Consequently, as a result of that, Australia has its own parliament and prime minister where English is accepted as the official language of that country.
The British monarch is at the same time the head of the Australian state, as well as the commander-in-chief of the Australian armed forces, represented by the governor-general of Australia.
Applying the same constitutional model, Ukraine would have its own parliament and prime minister, where the official language would be Russian, with the use of all other languages permitted. The Russian president will be at the same time Ukrainian head of state and the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian armed forces, and he would be represented by the governor general of Ukraine.
Such a solution would ensure peace and prosperity in Ukraine and Europe, just as it was the case with Australia, Canada or New Zealand.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102881 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Australian model for achieve peace in Ukraine Reply #11 - Jan 17^th, 2023 at 4:17pm That won't work Athos. The Ukrainians will now hate the Russians for another 3 generations or the next 100 years. At least 40 people died in the last few days when a building was hit by a 2000 pound warhead. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64282044
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Reply #12 - Jan 17^th, 2023 at 5:02pm

A side issue maybe but steam comes out of my ears every time a free world (remember that expression ?) Gov't announces their generous donation of advanced military equipment to Ukraine the idiots are giving the Russians time to prepare. Did the west warn Hitler of their latest weapons before sending the to the front ?

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Reply #13 - Jan 17^th, 2023 at 5:06pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 17^th, 2023 at 5:02pm:

A side issue maybe but steam comes out of my ears every time a free world (remember that expression ?) Gov't announces their generous donation of advanced military equipment to Ukraine the idiots are giving the Russians time to prepare. Did the west warn Hitler of their latest weapons before sending the to the front ?

IDIOTS
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After Hitler invaded Poland there was a phoney war between September 1939 and April 1940.

I think history is repeating.
The Allies are buying time to prepare for Russia properly.

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Reply #14 - Jan 20^th, 2023 at 9:34pm

Putin and his Muscovite cabal, do not want peace in Ukraine at any cost. They know historically, Ukraine is as much a part of Poland as it ever was under the Czars and Soviets. It is Putin's intention to destroy Ukraine's cultural identity. Such a victory will make the Black Sea Russian, and the Carpathians a bastion from which to seize the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Romania. This has always been Putin's aim.

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