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Reply #60 - Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:57pm

lee wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 5:39pm:

But he didn't break the law because he had authority to remove them.

At what point in time did he remove them? Roll Eyes

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 5:39pm:

There are two parts to the crime - it's not two separate crimes.

And you haven't even proven one is not true. Roll Eyes

He removed them when he was VP, and he has voluntarily returned them.

Game, set, match!

No crime here old boy.

I suggest you take a course in learning how to interpret legislation.

Always, and I must stress this, always look out for the words 'and', 'shall', and 'may'.

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Reply #61 - Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 8:01pm

Steampipe wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:47pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:37pm:

Steampipe wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:24pm:

When Trump finds documents and notifies NARA its a crime.

When Biden finds documents and notifies NARA its not a crime.

TDS gone mad again.

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When Trump finds documents and notifies NARA its a crime.

They knew Trump had documents and asked for them to be returned. Trump refused to comply with the requests and then refused to comply with the subpoena. Eventually he returned a few documents. After being chased further he returned a few more. Trump then declared that there were no more document. A search warrant proved this to have been untrue.

After the warnings Trump confirmed that all documents were in the basement room, Trump then had some of the documents re located in an attempt to hide them. Trump claimed there were no more document when everyone knew that there were. Some of the documents were found in Trumps desk draw.

How did they know Trump had documents?.

This will stump you won't it.

No

This may surprise you but when they asked for documents to be returned it was because they knew that certain documents were missing. When some documents were returned the documents they expected were not all there. They also had Trump employees as witnesses who told the FBI that there were more documents.

An example of an expected documents that was not returned were the Xi Jinping love letters.

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Re: FBI raid turns up more stolen docs
Reply #62 - Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 8:06pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 8:01pm:

Steampipe wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:47pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:37pm:

Steampipe wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:24pm:

When Trump finds documents and notifies NARA its a crime.

When Biden finds documents and notifies NARA its not a crime.

TDS gone mad again.

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When Trump finds documents and notifies NARA its a crime.

They knew Trump had documents and asked for them to be returned. Trump refused to comply with the requests and then refused to comply with the subpoena. Eventually he returned a few documents. After being chased further he returned a few more. Trump then declared that there were no more document. A search warrant proved this to have been untrue.

After the warnings Trump confirmed that all documents were in the basement room, Trump then had some of the documents re located in an attempt to hide them. Trump claimed there were no more document when everyone knew that there were. Some of the documents were found in Trumps desk draw.

How did they know Trump had documents?.

This will stump you won't it.

No

This may surprise you but when they asked for documents to be returned it was because they knew that certain documents were missing. When some documents were returned the documents they expected were not all there. They also had Trump employees as witnesses who told the FBI that there were more documents.

An example of an expected documents that was not returned were the Xi Jinping love letters.

Stuck together, so I believe Undecided

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Re: FBI raid turns up more stolen docs
Reply #63 - Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 8:15pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 8:01pm:

Steampipe wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:47pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:37pm:

Steampipe wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:24pm:

When Trump finds documents and notifies NARA its a crime.

When Biden finds documents and notifies NARA its not a crime.

TDS gone mad again.

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When Trump finds documents and notifies NARA its a crime.

They knew Trump had documents and asked for them to be returned. Trump refused to comply with the requests and then refused to comply with the subpoena. Eventually he returned a few documents. After being chased further he returned a few more. Trump then declared that there were no more document. A search warrant proved this to have been untrue.

After the warnings Trump confirmed that all documents were in the basement room, Trump then had some of the documents re located in an attempt to hide them. Trump claimed there were no more document when everyone knew that there were. Some of the documents were found in Trumps desk draw.

How did they know Trump had documents?.

This will stump you won't it.

No

This may surprise you but when they asked for documents to be returned it was because they knew that certain documents were missing. When some documents were returned the documents they expected were not all there. They also had Trump employees as witnesses who told the FBI that there were more documents.

An example of an expected documents that was not returned were the Xi Jinping love letters.

You do have some correct information but you have still mixed it up with media lies.

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TRUMP: A Trump representative told NARA in December 2021 that presidential records had been found at Mar-a-Lago, nearly a year after Trump left office. Fifteen boxes of records containing some classified material were transferred from Mar-Lago to NARA in January.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-classified-documents-trump-side-by-side-fb2c4eb
ccdbdbb9039c1c5e227b1da53

Trump notified the NARA that he had documents and returned them.

The FBI went to Mar-Lago and inspected where the documents were held and advised Trump to put a lock on the door which Trump complied with.

After the inspection the FBI said that they did see some classified documents and then produced a search warrant to seize them. Even though they had access and did not take the files when they inspected the property.

Pure politics by the FBI. Just like Mueller ended up with egg on his face and his reputation destroyed for a few pieces of silver this is going to cost the FBI more than reputation.

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Re: FBI raid turns up more stolen docs
Reply #64 - Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 8:18pm

Steampipe wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:47pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:37pm:

Steampipe wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:24pm:

When Trump finds documents and notifies NARA its a crime.

When Biden finds documents and notifies NARA its not a crime.

TDS gone mad again.

Quote:

When Trump finds documents and notifies NARA its a crime.

They knew Trump had documents and asked for them to be returned. Trump refused to comply with the requests and then refused to comply with the subpoena. Eventually he returned a few documents. After being chased further he returned a few more. Trump then declared that there were no more document. A search warrant proved this to have been untrue.

After the warnings Trump confirmed that all documents were in the basement room, Trump then had some of the documents re located in an attempt to hide them. Trump claimed there were no more document when everyone knew that there were. Some of the documents were found in Trumps desk draw.

How did they know Trump had documents?.

This will stump you won't it.

Because there was a snitch in Humpty's camp.

Why are you trying to re-write history?

Link.

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Re: FBI raid turns up more stolen docs
Reply #65 - Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 9:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:57pm:

He removed them when he was VP, and he has voluntarily returned them.

And between the time he was VP and his election to President? He had no right to any classified documents. As he said in that video.

Game over.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:57pm:

I suggest you take a course in learning how to interpret legislation.

Since you don't know anything about me; that's laughable. Tax Office legislation. Roll Eyes

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18603 Gender:	Re: FBI raid turns up more stolen docs Reply #66 - Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 10:15pm Some of these classified documents they just found date back to Bidens time as a Senator which he had no right to have. I wonder how many more they will find
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Re: FBI raid turns up more stolen docs
Reply #67 - Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 10:25pm

lee wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 9:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:57pm:

He removed them when he was VP, and he has voluntarily returned them.

And between the time he was VP and his election to President? He had no right to any classified documents. As he said in that video.

Game over.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:57pm:

I suggest you take a course in learning how to interpret legislation.

Since you don't know anything about me; that's laughable. Tax Office legislation. Roll Eyes

The word "and" - do you know what it means?

I'm curious.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138755 Gender:	Re: FBI raid turns up more stolen docs Reply #68 - Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 10:26pm Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 10:15pm: Some of these classified documents they just found date back to Bidens time as a Senator which he had no right to have. He had authorisation as a senator. You're not very good at this, are you dear?
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Reply #69 - Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 10:33pm

lee wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 9:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:57pm:

He removed them when he was VP, and he has voluntarily returned them.

And between the time he was VP and his election to President? He had no right to any classified documents. As he said in that video.

Game over.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:57pm:

I suggest you take a course in learning how to interpret legislation.

Since you don't know anything about me; that's laughable. Tax Office legislation. Roll Eyes

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And between the time he was VP and his election to President? He had no right to any classified documents.

He is now president and has the same mind powers as Trump had when he was president ? You would assume that all these documents are now declassified - no ?

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Reply #70 - Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 10:46pm

The problem for Trump is not that he had classified documents at his golf club....It is the fact Trump and his Lawyers claimed they had handed over all the documents which a search proved to be false, despite Trump being given the opportunity to return the documents voluntarily....Trump's whole life has been about denial and obstruction....There is a patern of corrupt behaviour from Donald Trump that is being exposed and acted upon at last???

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18603 Gender:	Re: FBI raid turns up more stolen docs Reply #71 - Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 11:25pm Trump: Has declassification authority Biden: Had ZERO declassification authority Trump: One SECURE location Biden: Multiple UNSECURE locations Trump: National Archives was aware Biden: National Archives wasn't aware Yes, there's a difference.
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Reply #73 - Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 11:52pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 11:25pm:

Trump: Has declassification authority
Biden: Had ZERO declassification authority

Trump: One SECURE location
Biden: Multiple UNSECURE locations

Trump: National Archives was aware
Biden: National Archives wasn't aware

Yes, there's a difference.

Mr Trump was an ex-prez when he refused to hand back government records, dear.

What, do you think we're all as dumb as that?

Every schoolboy knows.

You?

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Re: FBI raid turns up more stolen docs
Reply #74 - Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 11:58pm

Steampipe wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 8:15pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 8:01pm:

Steampipe wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:47pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:37pm:

Steampipe wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2023 at 7:24pm:

When Trump finds documents and notifies NARA its a crime.

When Biden finds documents and notifies NARA its not a crime.

TDS gone mad again.

Quote:

When Trump finds documents and notifies NARA its a crime.

They knew Trump had documents and asked for them to be returned. Trump refused to comply with the requests and then refused to comply with the subpoena. Eventually he returned a few documents. After being chased further he returned a few more. Trump then declared that there were no more document. A search warrant proved this to have been untrue.

After the warnings Trump confirmed that all documents were in the basement room, Trump then had some of the documents re located in an attempt to hide them. Trump claimed there were no more document when everyone knew that there were. Some of the documents were found in Trumps desk draw.

How did they know Trump had documents?.

This will stump you won't it.

No

This may surprise you but when they asked for documents to be returned it was because they knew that certain documents were missing. When some documents were returned the documents they expected were not all there. They also had Trump employees as witnesses who told the FBI that there were more documents.

An example of an expected documents that was not returned were the Xi Jinping love letters.

You do have some correct information but you have still mixed it up with media lies.

Quote:

TRUMP: A Trump representative told NARA in December 2021 that presidential records had been found at Mar-a-Lago, nearly a year after Trump left office. Fifteen boxes of records containing some classified material were transferred from Mar-Lago to NARA in January.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-classified-documents-trump-side-by-side-fb2c4eb
ccdbdbb9039c1c5e227b1da53

Trump notified the NARA that he had documents and returned them.

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