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Re: Alice Springs finished
Reply #30 - Jan 25^th, 2023 at 6:18pm

Voldemort called when he got the word
And he said, "I suppose you've heard... 'bout Alice"
So Albo rushed to the window and he looked outside
And he could hardly believe his eyes
As the big black gangs rode up Alice's drives …............

Oh, I know why people's leaving, dunno where they're gonna go
I know they've got their reasons, and you really oughta know
'Cause 24 times they've had broken down doors in Alice
24 times breaking into business
Then into the homes to finish off the missus
Now they've gotta get used to living with crime in Alice ….........

They spewed up together, pissed in the park
Didn't even wait until it got dark … in Alice
Now they kick down the door with no reason why
And they never catch a bullet above the eye
As the big black gangs slowly take over the Alice ….............

Oh, I know why people's leaving, dunno where they're gonna go
I know they've got their reasons, and you really oughta know
'Cause 24 times they've had broken down doors in Alice
24 times breaking into business
Then into all the homes to finish off the missus
Now they've gotta get used to living with crime in Alice ….......

Albo called in, and asked how they felt
He said, "I know how to help, get over Alice"
He said, "Alice is gone, but I'm still here,
You know I've been waiting for 24 years"
And the bloody PM just disappeared from Alice...

Oh, I know why people's leaving, dunno where they're gonna go
I know they've got their reasons, and you really oughta know
'Cause 24 times they've had broken down doors in Alice
24 times breaking into business
Then into the homes to finish off the missus
Now they've gotta get used to living with crime in Alice ….

No - they'll never get used to living with crime in Alice

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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Alice Springs finished Reply #31 - Jan 25^th, 2023 at 6:32pm Ahh me and Alice, them were the days
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Re: Alice Springs finished
Reply #32 - Jan 25^th, 2023 at 9:35pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 10:31am:

Typical comment coming from a complete lack of understanding of the circumstances of welfare-dependent people living in the town camps around Alice Springs.

Access to education requires access to clean, safe housing.

Waffle. People need access to safe, clean housing, education and jobs, which don't exist in the town camps around the Alice. Co-operation with a dysfunctional economic system which itself is a cause of the welfare dependency is pointless.

You can't have 'performance indicators' in 4th world camps, without creating the jobs and decent housing first.

People can't report on KPIs when they are living in 4th world conditions.

Better yet: no welfare dependency, ever.

Abbott tried to cut off the funding to these '4th world camps' to force them into the towns and cities. Yet 'progressives' went batshit crazy at the suggestion. So there they still are.

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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Alice Springs finished Reply #33 - Jan 25^th, 2023 at 10:02pm It's over for the Alice, the Abbo flag is flying high in the city square on the eve of Australia day.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47603 Gender:	Re: Alice Springs finished Reply #34 - Jan 25^th, 2023 at 10:09pm But its not the Abo Flag anymore. It's the Government's.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83948 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Alice Springs finished Reply #35 - Jan 25^th, 2023 at 10:27pm Jasin wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 10:09pm: But its not the Abo Flag anymore. It's the Government's. Told yez long ago that the Race War had been declared and you all missed it. Is this for real? I fear that all they have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.
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Re: Alice Springs finished
Reply #36 - Jan 25^th, 2023 at 10:32pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 10:27pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 25^th, 2023 at 10:09pm:

But its not the Abo Flag anymore.
It's the Government's. Cheesy

Told yez long ago that the Race War had been declared and you all missed it. Is this for real?

I fear that all they have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.

If its a Race War?
Then I don't see many people out-rooting the Blacks to make their race superior.
All I see is gay Whities crying about their boutique businesses for Tourists being broken into.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83948 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Reply #37 - Jan 25^th, 2023 at 10:38pm Quote: Our people once were warriors, Xavie - but we learned the ways of peace and tolerance... but underneath each and every one of us is a ravening beast that can be released by applying the right pressures long enough.....NEVER TOUCH THE CROSSES!
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Re: Alice Springs finished
Reply #39 - Jan 26^th, 2023 at 10:42am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote:

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Abbott tried to cut off the funding to these '4th world camps' to force them into the towns and cities. Yet 'progressives' went batshit crazy at the suggestion. So there they still are.

Yes.

That's because 'progressives' are beholden to the same neoliberal market orthodoxy as conservatives, meaning job creation schemes (eg, as in the former CDEP) in the camps are ruled out on financial grounds.

But of course any suggestions the camps around Alice can be simply closed down and everyone will find a job in the Alice are absurd - which was Abbott's mistake.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83948 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Alice Springs finished Reply #40 - Jan 26^th, 2023 at 10:44am Give 'em a Homeland, fence it off, hold guided tours ... should be self-supporting...
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83948 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Alice Springs finished Reply #41 - Jan 26^th, 2023 at 1:04pm The Alice Has Fallen!
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Re: Alice Springs finished
Reply #42 - Jan 26^th, 2023 at 3:16pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 24^th, 2023 at 4:25pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 24^th, 2023 at 3:22pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2023 at 9:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2023 at 5:05pm:

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Yeah, yeah, whatever, Matty... Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You live well away from indigenous townships, I bet.

In Rockhampton, if an indigenous person gets hurt in any way, there is usually a bunch of phone calls made and you will find groups and groups of indigenous people coming into town to harass and hurt the locals at their choosing. The police usually get overwhelmed by the amount of trouble for the week. Then, when the indigenous are satisfied that they have gotten even (and then some), they will disperse back to their housing commissions.

Mum and Dad live down the road from an aboriginal housing commission home. Funded by drug money and the taxpayer, you should hear the fights that go on down there. I was around at my parents the other night and the screaming from the house down the way was enough to warrant a police patrol. But, Dad said that the screaming was so common that it was not worth the phone call.

And here you are "tsk tsk"-ing someone for pointing out a problem. So, either you are profiting off the problems indigenous people cause, or you are so absent from their fights and antisocial behaviour that you have no clue about what goes on in large groups of indigenous communities.

He's only here to antagonise others.
Just ignore the twat.

Actually, I am here to question why, Matty continually posts bad news about Indigenous Australians and belittles anybody who posts good news about them. As he never suggests a solution to the problem he outlines, I am forced to assume he is here to just, "stir the pot," and little else. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Who has done that & what was the "good" news?

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Re: Alice Springs finished
Reply #43 - Jan 26^th, 2023 at 3:26pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 26^th, 2023 at 10:42am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote:

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Abbott tried to cut off the funding to these '4th world camps' to force them into the towns and cities. Yet 'progressives' went batshit crazy at the suggestion. So there they still are.

Yes.

That's because 'progressives' are beholden to the same neoliberal market orthodoxy as conservatives, meaning job creation schemes (eg, as in the former CDEP) in the camps are ruled out on financial grounds.

But of course any suggestions the camps around Alice can be simply closed down and everyone will find a job in the Alice are absurd - which was Abbott's mistake.

Which one is The Great Divide Grin

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12596 Gender:	Re: Reply #44 - Jan 26^th, 2023 at 4:13pm Quote: That's not debate.....feel free to join in.... Where were we...oh yes: Abbott wanted to close the camps, but didn't explain how long-term welfare- dependent people with little education would get jobs elsewhere....
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