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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58103 Here Gender:	Re: Our Liberal Friends Have Learned Nothing Reply #15 - Jan 26^th, 2023 at 10:46pm Quote: Climate Change. Don't you lefties understand that climate change is just as much of a fake Garbage.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58103 Here Gender:	Re: Our Liberal Friends Have Learned Nothing Reply #16 - Jan 26^th, 2023 at 10:48pm Quote: Health Care for Profit. Honey, if you want affordable health care then get the government out of health care. The US with the most privatised system is by far the most expensive in the world rather questions this position. The US is the only first world country with third world health care.
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Reply #17 - Jan 26^th, 2023 at 10:50pm

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High College Tuition. Well, yeah! You hand out handy-dandy college loans to kids wet behind the ears and that literally know nothing and you are basically shoveling money at colleges.

The right wing position is to educate rich stupid kids in preference to smart poor kids. It's a bit like flushing the country down the toilet.

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Reply #18 - Jan 27^th, 2023 at 2:03am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 26^th, 2023 at 10:48pm:

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Health Care for Profit. Honey, if you want affordable health care then get the government out of health care.

The US with the most privatised system is by far the most expensive in the world rather questions this position. The US is the only first world country with third world health care.

Actually our medical care is the best in the World, that is why you have to pay for it. World Leaders come here when no one else can help them!

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Mortdooley Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6984 Texas Gulf Coast Gender:	Re: Our Liberal Friends Have Learned Nothing Reply #19 - Jan 27^th, 2023 at 2:05am Dnarever wrote on Jan 26^th, 2023 at 10:46pm: Quote: Climate Change. Don't you lefties understand that climate change is just as much of a fake Garbage. Climate Change is a Religion, not a Science!
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Reply #20 - Jan 27^th, 2023 at 12:15pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 2:05am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 26^th, 2023 at 10:46pm:

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Climate Change. Don't you lefties understand that climate change is just as much of a fake

Garbage.

Climate Change is a Religion, not a Science!

Actually, I'd say climate-change-denial is a religion. All the science backs the climate-change side of the argument, it is the deniers who are acting like religious believers who refuse to look at the facts. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #21 - Jan 27^th, 2023 at 12:23pm

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All you are really saying is huge government good, personal freedoms bad. Your government like ours is very generous with other people's money. The rich and powerful select who you get to vote for, if you don't do it at the local level it hardly matters who you vote for nationally!

Not anymore, Mort. Clive Palmer spend a hundred mil and got one seat in the senate.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/may/22/clive-palmers-massive-adv...

Monique Ryan, independent, spent bugger all. She deposed the treasurer and took the most blue ribbon (conservative) seat in the country.

She was joined by six other independents who did exactly the same thing. Allegra Spender took former PM Malcolm Turnbull's seat. Zali Steggall kept former PM Tony Abbott's seat. And on and on around the country, independents took on the well-funded, deeply-entrenched Establishment players, fuelled on the smell of an oily rag.

They took on the leftards too. Dai Le took on former NSW premier and Labor star, Kristina Keneally. No help from the fake news either - Rupert hates anyone he can't control. The independents won in spite of the News Ltd campaign against them.

No, Mort, the independents showed that we the people CAN use democracy to further our own interests, despite what the rich and powerful pay for. Those independents have shaken up the two-party system and are now helping us shape a new way of doing business in Australia. We don't need bloated old billionaires to do it for us, either.

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Reply #22 - Jan 27^th, 2023 at 12:24pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 2:03am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 26^th, 2023 at 10:48pm:

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Health Care for Profit. Honey, if you want affordable health care then get the government out of health care.

The US with the most privatised system is by far the most expensive in the world rather questions this position. The US is the only first world country with third world health care.

Actually our medical care is the best in the World, that is why you have to pay for it. World Leaders come here when no one else can help them!

Typical "I'm all right, jack" comment from a comfortable conservative.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/16/americans-medical-debt/#:~:text=In%20the...

100 million people in America are saddled with medical debt
"The U.S. health system now produces debt on a mass scale, a new investigation shows. Patients across the country face gut-wrenching sacrifices".

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Reply #23 - Jan 27^th, 2023 at 1:15pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 2:03am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 26^th, 2023 at 10:48pm:

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Health Care for Profit. Honey, if you want affordable health care then get the government out of health care.

The US with the most privatised system is by far the most expensive in the world rather questions this position. The US is the only first world country with third world health care.

Actually our medical care is the best in the World, that is why you have to pay for it. World Leaders come here when no one else can help them!

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that is why you have to pay for it.

Into bankruptcy or death.

It cannot be the best health care when it kills as many or more than it saves.

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Reply #24 - Jan 27^th, 2023 at 1:18pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 2:03am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 26^th, 2023 at 10:48pm:

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Health Care for Profit. Honey, if you want affordable health care then get the government out of health care.

The US with the most privatised system is by far the most expensive in the world rather questions this position. The US is the only first world country with third world health care.

Actually our medical care is the best in the World, that is why you have to pay for it. World Leaders come here when no one else can help them!

Yes while your own people are dying unable to afford care.

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Reply #25 - Jan 27^th, 2023 at 2:05pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 1:18pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 2:03am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 26^th, 2023 at 10:48pm:

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Health Care for Profit. Honey, if you want affordable health care then get the government out of health care.

The US with the most privatised system is by far the most expensive in the world rather questions this position. The US is the only first world country with third world health care.

Actually our medical care is the best in the World, that is why you have to pay for it. World Leaders come here when no one else can help them!

Yes while your own people are dying unable to afford care.

Oh, I don't know. They can afford to go to Cuba, can't they? What's wrong with them?

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Reply #26 - Jan 27^th, 2023 at 10:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 12:15pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 2:05am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 26^th, 2023 at 10:46pm:

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Climate Change. Don't you lefties understand that climate change is just as much of a fake

Garbage.

Climate Change is a Religion, not a Science!

Actually, I'd say climate-change-denial is a religion. All the science backs the climate-change side of the argument, it is the deniers who are acting like religious believers who refuse to look at the facts. Roll Eyes

If you believe that get all your friends to join you and drive half as often and stop keeping your homes at a comfortable temperature. Then worship at the feet of people like Al Gore who owns five large homes and fly's around in his personal jet while lecturing the rest of you about your carbon footprint!

Save the planet by eating bugs and owning nothing while the Elite own it all. Kind of like a Monarchy isn't it.

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Reply #27 - Jan 27^th, 2023 at 11:05pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 1:18pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 2:03am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 26^th, 2023 at 10:48pm:

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Health Care for Profit. Honey, if you want affordable health care then get the government out of health care.

The US with the most privatised system is by far the most expensive in the world rather questions this position. The US is the only first world country with third world health care.

Actually our medical care is the best in the World, that is why you have to pay for it. World Leaders come here when no one else can help them!

Yes while your own people are dying unable to afford care.

That isn't true, there are charity hospitals to care for those who can't afford it. Even the for profit Hospitals will not turn anyone away. If you can't pay you will be transported elsewhere when it is safe to be moved.

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100 million people in America are saddled with medical debt
"The U.S. health system now produces debt on a mass scale, a new investigation shows. Patients across the country face gut-wrenching sacrifices".

Almost a third of Americans are saddled with massive medical debt? Nope! How can they be both refused medical care because they can't afford to pay and have massive medical debt from their medical care? Think people, don't just take the media's word for it.

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Reply #28 - Jan 27^th, 2023 at 11:25pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 11:05pm:

100 million people in America are saddled with medical debt: "The U.S. health system now produces debt on a mass scale, a new investigation shows. Patients across the country face gut-wrenching sacrifices".

Almost a third of Americans are saddled with massive medical debt? Nope! How can they be both refused medical care because they can't afford to pay and have massive medical debt from their medical care? Think people, don't just take the media's word for it.

Er, low IQ or just deplorably blind?

1. 1/3 have medical debt.

2. The same 1/3 weren't refused medical care, they received it and are now in debt.

3. the people who delayed getting health care (and died) because they couldn't afford to pay (or go into debt) refers to a different cohort.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/07/americans-healthcare-medical-cos...

The Americans dying because they can't afford medical care

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Reply #29 - Jan 28^th, 2023 at 12:01am

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 11:25pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 27^th, 2023 at 11:05pm:

100 million people in America are saddled with medical debt: "The U.S. health system now produces debt on a mass scale, a new investigation shows. Patients across the country face gut-wrenching sacrifices".

Almost a third of Americans are saddled with massive medical debt? Nope! How can they be both refused medical care because they can't afford to pay and have massive medical debt from their medical care? Think people, don't just take the media's word for it.

Er, low IQ or just deplorably blind?

1. 1/3 have medical debt.

2. The same 1/3 weren't refused medical care, they received it and are now in debt.

3. the people who delayed getting health care (and died) because they couldn't afford to pay (or go into debt) refers to a different cohort.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/07/americans-healthcare-medical-cos...

The Americans dying because they can't afford medical care

That is two thirds of all Americans. A little critical thinking is in order bud! Where can I find this two thirds of Americans to prove you right?

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