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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44882 Gender:	Re: 4th California Mass Shooting This Month Reply #105 - Feb 26^th, 2023 at 9:02pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2023 at 1:10pm: https://www.liveabout.com/thmb/zvn_6hBJL2ceViKIjI04JtU_H9s=/1500x0/filters:no_up... Oh, look! Bbwian has turned in his goldfish bowl and had another new idea, No 4356!
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18320 Gender:	Re: 4th California Mass Shooting This Month Reply #106 - Feb 26^th, 2023 at 10:28pm .
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Re: 4th California Mass Shooting This Month
Reply #107 - Feb 27^th, 2023 at 1:05am

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 26^th, 2023 at 10:28pm:

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There's NO comparison between firearm deaths—particularly
of the opportunistic or mass shooting variety—and illicit drug
taking.

Nobody has ever walked into a school or a shopping mall with
a kay of heroin, and immediately killed a dozen people.

This sort of faulty "comparison" is typical of the mindset of the
typical gung-ho US gun owners desperate to hold on to their
weapons at all costs—even other peoples' lives.

According to a June 2021 Pew Research Center report 44% of
Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say they
personally own a gun, compared with 20% of Democrats and
Democratic leaners.

This exemplifies the attitude of a typical red neck, ultra-right,
Trump supporter, NRA mentality. And it's a pathetic, deplorable
one that demands to be corrected. ASAP.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40938	Re: 4th California Mass Shooting This Month Reply #108 - Feb 27^th, 2023 at 9:07pm
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Re: 4th California Mass Shooting This Month
Reply #109 - Feb 27^th, 2023 at 10:12pm

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 27^th, 2023 at 1:05am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 26^th, 2023 at 10:28pm:

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There's NO comparison between firearm deaths—particularly
of the opportunistic or mass shooting variety—and illicit drug
taking.

Nobody has ever walked into a school or a shopping mall with
a kay of heroin, and immediately killed a dozen people.

This sort of faulty "comparison" is typical of the mindset of the
typical gung-ho US gun owners desperate to hold on to their
weapons at all costs—even other peoples' lives.

According to a June 2021 Pew Research Center report 44% of
Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say they
personally own a gun, compared with 20% of Democrats and
Democratic leaners.

This exemplifies the attitude of a typical red neck, ultra-right,
Trump supporter, NRA mentality. And it's a pathetic, deplorable
one that demands to be corrected. ASAP.

Illegal drugs kill far more people than guns every year.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47479 Gender:	Re: 4th California Mass Shooting This Month Reply #110 - Feb 27^th, 2023 at 11:32pm Very true and they're 'illegal' too.
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Re: 4th California Mass Shooting This Month
Reply #111 - Feb 27^th, 2023 at 11:55pm

Mortdooley wrote on Feb 27^th, 2023 at 10:12pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 27^th, 2023 at 1:05am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 26^th, 2023 at 10:28pm:

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https://i.postimg.cc/k46vHbZy/Screenshot-2023-02-27-at-01-42-54-Australian-Polit...

There's NO comparison between firearm deaths—particularly
of the opportunistic or mass shooting variety—and illicit drug
taking.

Nobody has ever walked into a school or a shopping mall with
a kay of heroin, and immediately killed a dozen people...

Illegal drugs kill far more people than guns every year.

Agreed.   From CDC statistics 1 February 2023:

Deaths per 100,000 population: 14.7 from firearms.

Deaths per 100,000 population: 32.1 from illicit drugs.

But that doesn't mean we should simply ignore the excessive
number of deaths from firearms merely because there are other
more or equally deadly sources.     That's faulty logic.

Deaths per 100,000 population: 13.7 from vehicle accidents for example.

It's obviously an almost impossible task to prevent massive numbers of
vehicle deaths, but firearm deaths could be reduced substantially over,
say, a decade by rewriting the 2nd Amendment, and tightening up gun
and owner legislation to limit the number of guns in US society, and who
owns them.

A 2021 BBC report using data from the FBI and the Las Vegas Police pointed
out that eleven of the thirteen deadliest mass shootings in the past 30 years
in the US occurred between 2001 and 2021—implying that mass shootings
are becoming more frequent and more deadly.

A 2016 paper from the University of Alabama compared 171 countries from
1966 to 2012 and concluded that the US accounted for only 5% of the world’s
population, but 31% of its mass shootings.

—World Population Review, 2023.

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Re: 4th California Mass Shooting This Month
Reply #112 - Feb 28^th, 2023 at 5:11am

Australia.

There are 12,000 people in my electorate that have guns.
Be lucky if there is one gun death a year.
But as far as drugs (Ice, etc) and alcohol go - there are far more deaths formulated from these substances.

Go figure.

Note: We live in a world where Military is an over-achiever and Medicine is an under-achiever.

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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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Reply #113 - Feb 28^th, 2023 at 7:43am

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Jasin wrote on Feb 28^th, 2023 at 5:11am:

Australia.

There are 12,000 people in my electorate that have guns.

Be lucky if there is one gun death a year.

But as far as drugs (Ice, etc) and alcohol go - there are far more deaths formulated from these substances.

Go figure.........

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 27^th, 2023 at 11:55pm:

.......From CDC statistics 1 February 2023:

Deaths per 100,000 population: 14.7 from firearms.

Deaths per 100,000 population: 32.1 from illicit drugs.........

I've said it many, many times before, & I will say it again....

There is still absolutely no reason whatsoever for the more than 300 million good, Law-Abiding American Citizens to even consider relinquishing their Rights to use firearms in self-defense, or any of their Constitutional Rights affirming their Right to Keep & Bear Arms to be used to defend themselves, their loved ones, & their friends, because of those few heinous criminals.

Every American Citizen has an inalienable, God Given Right to Self-Defense. Taking firearms out of the hands of millions of good, law-abiding American Citizens won't make law abiding Americans safer, like here in Australia, it will only make the criminals safer.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40938	Re: 4th California Mass Shooting This Month Reply #114 - Feb 28^th, 2023 at 9:12am
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Re: 4th California Mass Shooting This Month
Reply #115 - Feb 28^th, 2023 at 10:02am

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Bwian:

Q. When was the last time an OPINION POLL, one with such low numbers of potential support, EVER REPEALED, OR CAUSED THE REPEAL, OF AN AMENDMENT to the United States Constitution!!!???

A. NEVER!!!

No potential Amendment to the United States Constitution, without first having an extremely high & broad base of National support, has ever been passed, repealed, or even amended by the American People......Much less one that affirms an American Right, as the most popular Right cherished by the American People, the Right to Keep & Bear Arms, which is second only to the Rights of Free Speech & Religion!!!

You're a joke Bwian, & everyone, including yourself, damn well knows it!!

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40938	Re: 4th California Mass Shooting This Month Reply #116 - Feb 28^th, 2023 at 2:53pm
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Tap Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 446 Gender:	Re: 4th California Mass Shooting This Month Reply #117 - Feb 28^th, 2023 at 10:00pm
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40938	Re: 4th California Mass Shooting This Month Reply #118 - Mar 1^st, 2023 at 11:15am
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18320 Gender:	Re: 4th California Mass Shooting This Month Reply #119 - Mar 1^st, 2023 at 10:17pm .
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