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Re: Mental health checks for WA's gun owners
Reply #90 - Mar 8^th, 2023 at 11:57am

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 8^th, 2023 at 9:14am:

There has been a total of 541 gun related deaths in WA over the last 2 decades which is an average of 27 a year.

How many were police officers who had access to help? I have asked the question before but you didn't answer.

Also you said earlier they should be tested every year. So let's assume 260 work days. No Public Holidays. 90,000 gun owners in WA. So about 346 would need to be tested EVERY DAY. So forget about other people with mental health problems getting help.

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Re: Mental health checks for WA's gun owners
Reply #91 - Mar 8^th, 2023 at 12:27pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 8^th, 2023 at 9:14am:

There has been a total of 541 gun related deaths in WA over the last 2 decades which is an average of 27 a year....If people do not want to undergo mental health checks to obtain a firearm in WA then the question should be asked why....The reasons given appear to be it will achieve nothing and nobody has been murdered by a banned weapon....Even if a fraction of these innocent people were saved it would be an improvement!!!

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In Western Australia, annual deaths resulting from firearms total

2019: 37
2018: 16
2017: 23
2016: 27
2015: 24
2014: 28
2013: 25
2012: 29
2011: 17
2010: 23
2009: 28
2008: 35
2007: 23
2006: 33
2005: 20
2004: 24
2003: 35
2002: 35
2001: 21
2000: 20
1999: 18

https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/western-australia#total_number_of_gun_...

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Margaret River murder-suicide: Seven people found dead at home near WA holiday town

It is people like this the gun nuts are defending....Why would anyone prefer to see innocent people murdered rather than undergo a simple mental health assessment....Selfish self serving arseholes!!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-11/seven-people-found-dead-in-margaret-river...

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Mental health checks have never killed anyone....However they could save innocent lives....Owning a firearm in Australia has always been a priveledge not a right....Why would anyone object to people having a need and being deemed competant to possess a firearm....Gun ownership laws should be tightened accross the country not just WA???

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17327 Gender:	Re: Mental health checks for WA's gun owners Reply #92 - Mar 8^th, 2023 at 12:48pm Poor phil. Can't even answer a straight forward question. I guess he can't do numbers well.
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Re: Mental health checks for WA's gun owners
Reply #93 - Mar 8^th, 2023 at 1:30pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 4:59pm:

...I served with numerous ex-conscripts who only had positive things to say about it. I wonder if you had a bad experience that made you upset?

Can you tell us exactly what some of those nasho's positive
experiences were? Did they serve overseas? Did any of them
suffer from delayed PTSD? Were any injured in country? Were
any TPI post service?

I'm just asking, as many I've spoken with absolutely hated the
experience, with only a few saying they "tolerated" their service.
Many were sucked in to sign on after their two years with the
promises of zone allowances and low interest home loans plus a
Gold card.

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Re: Mental health checks for WA's gun owners
Reply #94 - Mar 8^th, 2023 at 2:57pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 4:59pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 4:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 3:34pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 1:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 5^th, 2023 at 5:19pm:

Mental health checks for WA's gun owners to become mandatory under changes to firearms laws Shocked

Will you be ineligible to legally obtain a firearm, Brian?

No, Rocky. The Baron, OTOH is questionable... Roll Eyes

You need a mental health check for saying all young people, no matter who or what they are, should be conscripted into the military

In times of national existential crisis and threat, all can expect to serve, either in combatant and non-combatant roles. Vietnam wasn't one of those. You are the only ex-conscript I have encountered who had bad things to say about the experience, Bias. I served with numerous ex-conscripts who only had positive things to say about it. I wonder if you had a bad experience that made you upset? Roll Eyes

Brian YOU need a mental health check. I've never seen a Vietnam Vet say that they enjoyed the experience, not even those who didn't see direct action.

You wonder if Bias had a "bad experience" in Vietnam? Are you on drugs? Or just still living in your deluded fantasy bubble? Rhetorical question of course.

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Re: Mental health checks for WA's gun owners
Reply #95 - Mar 8^th, 2023 at 4:58pm

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 8^th, 2023 at 1:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 4:59pm:

...I served with numerous ex-conscripts who only had positive things to say about it. I wonder if you had a bad experience that made you upset?

Can you tell us exactly what some of those nasho's positive
experiences were? Did they serve overseas? Did any of them
suffer from delayed PTSD? Were any injured in country? Were
any TPI post service?

I'm just asking, as many I've spoken with absolutely hated the
experience, with only a few saying they "tolerated" their service.
Many were sucked in to sign on after their two years with the
promises of zone allowances and low interest home loans plus a
Gold card.

Hi Geoff....I knew a couple of Vets who were both drunks and never spoke about the war....They are both long past!!!

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