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Boomers Better With Cybersecurity
Feb 6^th, 2023 at 6:49am

The Council of Small Business Organisations Australia (COSBOA) has
carried out research into cybercrime that indicates Baby Boomers are
more cognisant than all other age demographics about the dangers
of this type of criminal activity.

This may surprise a lot of the smug, younger generations who perceive
us oldies as tired, dopey old codgers with one foot in the grave.

Ha! I have news for them!

The results don't surprise me though, as I was using computers well
before those young smartarses were even leaving snail trails on their
parents' sheets.

Note in particular the pathetic security awareness of the first "digital
natives" —Gen Z (born between 1997 and 2010). Surely the Gen Zs
should be the most aware of cybercrime, or are they just too stupid
or too lazy to care? And who should we blame for an entire generation
of technological dummies? Parents? Schools? Trump?

The research was conducted in Nov/Dec last year, with the findings drawn
from a survey of more than 2,100 business owners and employees.

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Re: Boomers Better With Cybersecurity
Reply #1 - Feb 6^th, 2023 at 7:35am

That sample space is pretty pathetic.

I disagree with the findings.

Boomers are more likely to fall for scammers.

Gen Z ie my generation are the generation who is responsible ie we're earning larger annual salaries and receiving rental incomes from properties we've inherited from baby boomers (who are essentially dead or dying or are in retirement or nursing facilities). Those who have survived Covid19 since 2020... and are at home (still) tend not to have power of attorney anyway.

Basically boomers are reliant on fixed incomes (govt pensions/share dividends etc). They no longer have much money. They used to. Not anymore. Gen X now holds the wealth. And WE are very much aware of keeping that wealth safe and sound. Why? We're better educated for starters (we had the opportunity to get a University education compared to boomers) AND we feel a sense of duty to ensure that any money we've been given control of by our parents and parents in law are held in trust for our children ie their grandchildren as their main goal was for their wealth to go there.

These surveys need to be more precise. And they need to target generations AFTER Gen X a little more because THIS is where the problem is. Why? These later generations (after Gen X) ... are absolutely apathetic. And they could do with a wake up call. I'm bloody tired of constantly nagging my kids AND my nieces and nephews OVER and OVER and OVER again...about cyber security/financial security/identity security etc.

Now "Geoff" please explain wtf happened here 👇

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1675508471/0

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Re: Boomers Better With Cybersecurity
Reply #2 - Feb 6^th, 2023 at 7:44am

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 6:49am:

Note in particular the pathetic security awareness of the first "digital
natives" —Gen Z (born between 1997 and 2010). Surely the Gen Zs
should be the most aware of cybercrime, or are they just too stupid
or too lazy to care? And who should we blame for an entire generation
of technological dummies? Parents? Schools? Trump?

If any of this were true, I'd bet it's due to boomers being deeply suspicious of digital transactions and being aware of their own ignorance of digital technology, they avoid them whenever they can.

Gen Zs have never experienced a widespread alternative to digital technology. To them, there is no alternative.

The US is experiencing the problem of turning the older population to any digital technology at all. The use of cash is heavily associated with economic freedom, (or freedom in itself) - Freedom is an American obsession to the point that they are convinced that the US is the freest country, in every aspect, in the world - The US actually ranks at about 15th.

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Re: Boomers Better With Cybersecurity
Reply #3 - Feb 6^th, 2023 at 7:57am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 7:44am:

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 6:49am:

Note in particular the pathetic security awareness of the first "digital
natives" —Gen Z (born between 1997 and 2010). Surely the Gen Zs
should be the most aware of cybercrime, or are they just too stupid
or too lazy to care? And who should we blame for an entire generation
of technological dummies? Parents? Schools? Trump?

If any of this were true, I'd bet it's due to boomers being deeply suspicious of digital transactions and being aware of their own ignorance of digital technology, they avoid them whenever they can.

Gen Zs have never experienced a widespread alternative to digital technology. To them, there is no alternative.

The US is experiencing the problem of turning the older population to any digital technology at all. The use of cash is heavily associated with economic freedom, (or freedom in itself) - Freedom is an American obsession to the point that they are convinced that the US is the freest country, in every aspect, in the world - The US actually ranks at about 15th.

Yep! That's another very interesting and important point. How many of these baby boomers are even online? And let's take a closer look at those who are online for a moment. They're online playing wordle and quordle. Or on OzPol talking to themselves under various ids.

The other key note which underpinned this survey is a criterion which needs to be more closely examined. The passwords used by baby boomers are more constantly changed than any other generation.

Well duh! Baby boomers keep forgetting their passwords ffs! If anything their passwords are protected by their dementia! That's why they keep asking for new ones all the bloody time 😂🤣😆

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Re: Boomers Better With Cybersecurity
Reply #4 - Feb 6^th, 2023 at 8:10am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 7:44am:

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 6:49am:

Note in particular the pathetic security awareness of the first "digital
natives" —Gen Z (born between 1997 and 2010). Surely the Gen Zs
should be the most aware of cybercrime, or are they just too stupid
or too lazy to care? And who should we blame for an entire generation
of technological dummies? Parents? Schools? Trump?

If any of this were true, I'd bet it's due to boomers being deeply suspicious of digital transactions and being aware of their own ignorance of digital technology, they avoid them whenever they can.

Gen Zs have never experienced a widespread alternative to digital technology. To them, there is no alternative.

Well, I have no reason to believe the report findings were untrue.
Do you? And if so, why?

And it's not a matter of we Boomers being overly "suspicious"; a
better word choice would be cautious—and rightly so. Nor are
we "ignorant" of digital technology as we were using it decades
before Gen Zs or Millennials etc. In fact, the majority of the
software used by Gen Zs today has its roots in software developed
by the now Boomer-aged.

I'd agree that some Boomers "avoid" technology—although I'd be
happy to look at any data confirming that. I don't think a blanket
statement like that really applies; that's like saying that all Christians
avoid gambling.

The fact that Gen Zs have never experienced non-digital technology
should surely make them better educated and aware of cybercrime,
rather than being more subject to falling for it IMO.

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Re: Boomers Better With Cybersecurity
Reply #5 - Feb 6^th, 2023 at 8:25am

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 7:57am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 7:44am:

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 6:49am:

Note in particular the pathetic security awareness of the first "digital
natives" —Gen Z (born between 1997 and 2010). Surely the Gen Zs
should be the most aware of cybercrime, or are they just too stupid
or too lazy to care? And who should we blame for an entire generation
of technological dummies? Parents? Schools? Trump?

If any of this were true, I'd bet it's due to boomers being deeply suspicious of digital transactions and being aware of their own ignorance of digital technology, they avoid them whenever they can.

Gen Zs have never experienced a widespread alternative to digital technology. To them, there is no alternative.

Yep! That's another very interesting and important point. How many of these baby boomers are even online? And let's take a closer look at those who are online for a moment. They're online playing wordle and quordle. Or on OzPol talking to themselves under various ids.

Are you serious Lisa, or just trying to get a rise out of me? Wink

At any rate, you don't have any evidence for those claims about Boomers.
I've never payed Wordle or Quoirdle as they're basically just kids games.
They'd bore me shitless quite frankly.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 7:57am:

The other key note which underpinned this survey is a criterion which needs to be more closely examined. The passwords used by baby boomers are more constantly changed than any other generation.

Interesting claim. Do you have any evidence of this, or are you just guessing?

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 7:57am:

Well duh! Baby boomers keep forgetting their passwords ffs! If anything their passwords are protected by their dementia! That's why they keep asking for new ones all the bloody time.

LOL... now I know you're pulling my chain!

At any rate, I don't think I've ever forgotten that ... um... the thingy... what's it called again... the something -word?

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Re: Boomers Better With Cybersecurity
Reply #6 - Feb 6^th, 2023 at 9:12am

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 7:57am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 7:44am:

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 6:49am:

Note in particular the pathetic security awareness of the first "digital
natives" —Gen Z (born between 1997 and 2010). Surely the Gen Zs
should be the most aware of cybercrime, or are they just too stupid
or too lazy to care? And who should we blame for an entire generation
of technological dummies? Parents? Schools? Trump?

If any of this were true, I'd bet it's due to boomers being deeply suspicious of digital transactions and being aware of their own ignorance of digital technology, they avoid them whenever they can.

Gen Zs have never experienced a widespread alternative to digital technology. To them, there is no alternative.

The US is experiencing the problem of turning the older population to any digital technology at all. The use of cash is heavily associated with economic freedom, (or freedom in itself) - Freedom is an American obsession to the point that they are convinced that the US is the freest country, in every aspect, in the world - The US actually ranks at about 15th.

Yep! That's another very interesting and important point. How many of these baby boomers are even online? And let's take a closer look at those who are online for a moment. They're online playing wordle and quordle. Or on OzPol talking to themselves under various ids.

The other key note which underpinned this survey is a criterion which needs to be more closely examined. The passwords used by baby boomers are more constantly changed than any other generation.

Well duh! Baby boomers keep forgetting their passwords ffs! If anything their passwords are protected by their dementia! That's why they keep asking for new ones all the bloody time 😂🤣😆

I thought you were a boomer. Don't you have grown kids?

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Reply #7 - Feb 6^th, 2023 at 9:34am

Baby Boom Generation: Born between 1946–1964 - 18 years.

Generation X: Born between 1965–1980 - 15 years.

Millennial Generation or Generation Y: Born between 1981–1996 - 15 years

Generation Z or iGen: Born between 1997–2010 - 13 years

Seems no one has a mortgage on the boundaries of cultural generations.

If full maturity is not achieved until an individual is 25, only those Gen Z born in 1997 (if those boundaries are used) have reached full maturity to date.

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Reply #8 - Feb 6^th, 2023 at 9:41am

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 6:49am:

Note in particular the pathetic security awareness of the first "digital
natives" —Gen Z (born between 1997 and 2010). Surely the Gen Zs
should be the most aware of cybercrime, or are they just too stupid
or too lazy to care? And who should we blame for an entire generation
of technological dummies? Parents? Schools? Trump?

Gawd, the youth of today, eh old fella!

The majority of Gen Z are still teenagers and the rest haven't reached full maturity.

What were you like at 18? Thought you knew everything, back then by... magic?

“When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.” - Mark Twain

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Reply #9 - Feb 6^th, 2023 at 11:21am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 9:12am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 7:57am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 7:44am:

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 6:49am:

Note in particular the pathetic security awareness of the first "digital
natives" —Gen Z (born between 1997 and 2010). Surely the Gen Zs
should be the most aware of cybercrime, or are they just too stupid
or too lazy to care? And who should we blame for an entire generation
of technological dummies? Parents? Schools? Trump?

If any of this were true, I'd bet it's due to boomers being deeply suspicious of digital transactions and being aware of their own ignorance of digital technology, they avoid them whenever they can.

Gen Zs have never experienced a widespread alternative to digital technology. To them, there is no alternative.

The US is experiencing the problem of turning the older population to any digital technology at all. The use of cash is heavily associated with economic freedom, (or freedom in itself) - Freedom is an American obsession to the point that they are convinced that the US is the freest country, in every aspect, in the world - The US actually ranks at about 15th.

Yep! That's another very interesting and important point. How many of these baby boomers are even online? And let's take a closer look at those who are online for a moment. They're online playing wordle and quordle. Or on OzPol talking to themselves under various ids.

The other key note which underpinned this survey is a criterion which needs to be more closely examined. The passwords used by baby boomers are more constantly changed than any other generation.

Well duh! Baby boomers keep forgetting their passwords ffs! If anything their passwords are protected by their dementia! That's why they keep asking for new ones all the bloody time 😂🤣😆

I thought you were a boomer. Don't you have grown kids?

OMG!!!

Despite the fact that I've constantly posted that :
SOME of my kids (ie those from my 1st marriage) are in their early 20's and both my parents were boomers and that I'm born in 1970 and that I'm Gen X?

You concluded from all that 👆👆👆👆 .... that I'm a boomer like yourself?

Okkkkkkayyyyyyy. 😐

Oh and I make fun of baby boomers (a bit).

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Reply #10 - Feb 6^th, 2023 at 11:34am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 9:34am:

Baby Boom Generation: Born between 1946–1964 - 18 years.

Generation X: Born between 1965–1980 - 15 years.

Millennial Generation or Generation Y: Born between 1981–1996 - 15 years

Generation Z or iGen: Born between 1997–2010 - 13 years

Seems no one has a mortgage on the boundaries of cultural generations.

If full maturity is not achieved until an individual is 25, only those Gen Z born in 1997 (if those boundaries are used) have reached full maturity to date.

Yep.

I'm Gen X.

My older kids are Gen Z.

BOTH my husbands were/are boomers. 1st one was born in 1956/the 2nd one was born in 1960. All I can say is that it has not been easy being married to a baby boomer. They're soooooo slooooooow and ummm ok let's just say they're so ineffective. At absolutely everything. They always need prodding and poking like they're on the autism spectrum (even though they're not).

Oh sigh....perhaps I should be posting all this in Relationships 🥺😳🥺

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Reply #12 - Feb 6^th, 2023 at 11:54am

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 11:34am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 9:34am:

Baby Boom Generation: Born between 1946–1964 - 18 years.

Generation X: Born between 1965–1980 - 15 years.

Millennial Generation or Generation Y: Born between 1981–1996 - 15 years

Generation Z or iGen: Born between 1997–2010 - 13 years

Seems no one has a mortgage on the boundaries of cultural generations.

If full maturity is not achieved until an individual is 25, only those Gen Z born in 1997 (if those boundaries are used) have reached full maturity to date.

Yep.

I'm Gen X.

My older kids are Gen Z.

BOTH my husbands were/are boomers. 1st one was born in 1956/the 2nd one was born in 1960. All I can say is that it has not been easy being married to a baby boomer. They're soooooo slooooooow and ummm ok let's just say they're so ineffective. At absolutely everything. They always need prodding and poking like they're on the autism spectrum (even though they're not).

Oh sigh....perhaps I should be posting all this in Relationships 🥺😳🥺

The fact that you have had two ex husbands probably says more about you than them. Roll Eyes

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Reply #13 - Feb 6^th, 2023 at 12:15pm

Belgarion wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 11:54am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 11:34am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 6^th, 2023 at 9:34am:

Baby Boom Generation: Born between 1946–1964 - 18 years.

Generation X: Born between 1965–1980 - 15 years.

Millennial Generation or Generation Y: Born between 1981–1996 - 15 years

Generation Z or iGen: Born between 1997–2010 - 13 years

Seems no one has a mortgage on the boundaries of cultural generations.

If full maturity is not achieved until an individual is 25, only those Gen Z born in 1997 (if those boundaries are used) have reached full maturity to date.

Yep.

I'm Gen X.

My older kids are Gen Z.

BOTH my husbands were/are boomers. 1st one was born in 1956/the 2nd one was born in 1960. All I can say is that it has not been easy being married to a baby boomer. They're soooooo slooooooow and ummm ok let's just say they're so ineffective. At absolutely everything. They always need prodding and poking like they're on the autism spectrum (even though they're not).

Oh sigh....perhaps I should be posting all this in Relationships 🥺😳🥺

The fact that you have had two ex husbands probably says more about you than them. Roll Eyes

Hey everyone! Apparently I have had TWO ex husbands 😂🤣😆

Thanks for letting me know. Up to this point in time I was pretty sure I only had 1 ex husband (who I divorced because I had enough self respect to leave the abusive drunk who gambled his inheritance and whatever other money he had away. Oh and said drunk did what all drunks eventually do....spent all his money/owed people money and drank himself to death.

A huge thank you once again Belgarion. I'll be sure to tell my 2nd husband who I'm still happily married to (well he frustrates me no end and I'm pretty sure I frustrate him no end too but meh) ... after he comes home tonight from work that he's in fact my ex husband according to you lol.

Whilst here....what do you reckon Belgarion...should I tear up the Valentine's Day card I've just finished writing up for him? I mean he's apparently my EX husband (according to you anyway). 😐

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