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Re: It Is Time To Turn The Tables On The Banks
Reply #75 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 12:12pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 12:08pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 13th, 2023 at 12:07pm:
We kind of are turning the tables on our banks.

How? Our borrowings are locked in at 2% for a further 3 years.

Our savings are locked in at 5%.

It’s all about careful timing. And luck.


What exactly do you mean by "borrowings"?  I'm just wondering
what bank lends money at 2%.

And which bank pays 5% on term deposits?  The best I can get
with my bank is 3.35%, although I note that NAB and ANZ pay
4% and 4.1% respectively.



Everyone I know who has a mortgage well over a million is locked in at 2% for 3 years.

(That term will expire in 2.5 years).

And as regards locking in our 50 grand at 5% that offer was available 6 months back.

The best offer I can find TODAY is 4.8%.

What’s your question again?


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Re: It Is Time To Turn The Tables On The Banks
Reply #76 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 12:14pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 10:33am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 9:23am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 14th, 2023 at 7:45pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 14th, 2023 at 9:32am:
issuevoter wrote on Feb 13th, 2023 at 10:30pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 13th, 2023 at 12:07pm:
issuevoter wrote on Feb 13th, 2023 at 10:27am:
Yes, NOW is the time to turn the tables on the banks, after they had been giving away loans at next to no interest for the last five years, on the Reserves theory that it would stimulate the economy. It was the fantasy of professional economists. It got so bad that Bankers started to seriously consider charging you to have an account.


We kind of are turning the tables on our banks.

How? Our borrowings are locked in at 2% for a further 3 years.

Our savings are locked in at 5%.

It’s all about careful timing. And luck.


Who's giving you 5%?



2.5 to 3% tops for term deposits.


Rubbish! Look harder!


Ok smart arse - 0.05% to 4.65% across 106 banks, credit unions & building societies.

4.65% is for 2 years minimum. Many have very high minimum amounts.

Some are $1million minimum.

So my 2.5% to 3% is a good average of what's available with varying lock in time frames, minimums & maximum amounts.

https://www.finder.com.au/term-deposits?futm_medium=cpc&futm_source=google&futm_...


Well unfortunately for you I AM a smart @rse but only when it comes to investing after tax money because I was taught (as I was growing up) by poor hard working European migrant parents and extended family how to invest carefully and wisely in real estate AND in financial banking products/services. My parents arrived essentially as refugees with absolutely nothing but a suitcase of clothes and photos of their homeland. They also carried a heart and mind that was full of hope and gratitude to be able to come to Australia in the mid 1960’s. The fact that the Australian govt PAID for them to come back then was something they never forgot. Because of all this I can honestly say I owe whatever I’ve achieved in life to my European parents (and heritage). And that includes their smarts in making money.

Now let’s get back to you talking utter crap about Term Deposits.

Initially your comment was
👇

Quote:
2.5 to 3% tops for term deposits


After my post (to you) you then came back with this 👇


Quote:
Ok smart arse - 0.05% to 4.65% across 106 banks, credit unions & building societies.

4.65% is for 2 years minimum. Many have very high minimum amounts.


And yet again I can see that YOU are AS INCOMPETENT as ever when it comes to investing money. Don’t worry ... my husband (who is an experienced accountant) is just as incompetent as you. So take heart ...you’re in good company there 😂🤣😆

Now ... in between cooking dinner for tonight and cleaning the kitchen plus hanging out 2 loads of washing I took my iPhone out of my pocket and IT TOOK ME LESS THAN 60 seconds to find a term deposit investment interest rate of 4.8%. With bugger all minimum amount conditions.

Less than 60 seconds!

Moving on....as you know these rates do change but even TODAY you can invest here at 4.8% 👇



https://www.ratecity.com.au/term-deposits/judo-bank/personal-term-deposit?minimu...



AusGeoff can’t you read English? Your idea of a decent investment term deposit interest rate is my idea of underperforming. And failure.
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Reply #78 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 7:42pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 10:33am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 9:23am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 14th, 2023 at 7:45pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 14th, 2023 at 9:32am:
issuevoter wrote on Feb 13th, 2023 at 10:30pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 13th, 2023 at 12:07pm:
issuevoter wrote on Feb 13th, 2023 at 10:27am:
Yes, NOW is the time to turn the tables on the banks, after they had been giving away loans at next to no interest for the last five years, on the Reserves theory that it would stimulate the economy. It was the fantasy of professional economists. It got so bad that Bankers started to seriously consider charging you to have an account.


We kind of are turning the tables on our banks.

How? Our borrowings are locked in at 2% for a further 3 years.

Our savings are locked in at 5%.

It’s all about careful timing. And luck.


Who's giving you 5%?



2.5 to 3% tops for term deposits.


Rubbish! Look harder!


Ok smart arse - 0.05% to 4.65% across 106 banks, credit unions & building societies.

4.65% is for 2 years minimum. Many have very high minimum amounts.

Some are $1million minimum.

So my 2.5% to 3% is a good average of what's available with varying lock in time frames, minimums & maximum amounts.

https://www.finder.com.au/term-deposits?futm_medium=cpc&futm_source=google&futm_...


Well unfortunately for you I AM a smart @rse but only when it comes to investing after tax money because I was taught (as I was growing up) by poor hard working European migrant parents and extended family how to invest carefully and wisely in real estate AND in financial banking products/services. My parents arrived essentially as refugees with absolutely nothing but a suitcase of clothes and photos of their homeland. They also carried a heart and mind that was full of hope and gratitude to be able to come to Australia in the mid 1960’s. The fact that the Australian govt PAID for them to come back then was something they never forgot. Because of all this I can honestly say I owe whatever I’ve achieved in life to my European parents (and heritage). And that includes their smarts in making money.

Now let’s get back to you talking utter crap about Term Deposits.

Initially your comment was
👇

Quote:
2.5 to 3% tops for term deposits


After my post (to you) you then came back with this 👇


Quote:
Ok smart arse - 0.05% to 4.65% across 106 banks, credit unions & building societies.

4.65% is for 2 years minimum. Many have very high minimum amounts.


And yet again I can see that YOU are AS INCOMPETENT as ever when it comes to investing money. Don’t worry ... my husband (who is an experienced accountant) is just as incompetent as you. So take heart ...you’re in good company there 😂🤣😆

Now ... in between cooking dinner for tonight and cleaning the kitchen plus hanging out 2 loads of washing I took my iPhone out of my pocket and IT TOOK ME LESS THAN 60 seconds to find a term deposit investment interest rate of 4.8%. With bugger all minimum amount conditions.

Less than 60 seconds!

Moving on....as you know these rates do change but even TODAY you can invest here at 4.8% 👇



https://www.ratecity.com.au/term-deposits/judo-bank/personal-term-deposit?minimu...



Don't increase the font size i.e. shout at me or you can go & get well & truly phukked.

Capise? I'm not playing any stupid games with your personalities.

So take heart .... I couldn't give a phukk what you say or think.

Mull over that for a bit ... then come back & tell me whose multi I am ...

you bloody idiot. Angry
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Reply #79 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 8:26pm
 
Sophia wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 5:47pm:



That's not exactly a term deposit
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Re: It Is Time To Turn The Tables On The Banks
Reply #80 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 8:36pm
 
Sophia wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 5:47pm:


Shhhhh. I don’t like telling these ignorant nutters about cash management accounts and the various other ways I invest our money for fixed terms.

Also I never accept any advertised rate UNLESS I can jump in and personally haggle for a better rate. You can only do that of course if you have a decent initial deposit.


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Reply #81 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 8:41pm
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 7:42pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 10:33am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 9:23am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 14th, 2023 at 7:45pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 14th, 2023 at 9:32am:
issuevoter wrote on Feb 13th, 2023 at 10:30pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 13th, 2023 at 12:07pm:
issuevoter wrote on Feb 13th, 2023 at 10:27am:
Yes, NOW is the time to turn the tables on the banks, after they had been giving away loans at next to no interest for the last five years, on the Reserves theory that it would stimulate the economy. It was the fantasy of professional economists. It got so bad that Bankers started to seriously consider charging you to have an account.


We kind of are turning the tables on our banks.

How? Our borrowings are locked in at 2% for a further 3 years.

Our savings are locked in at 5%.

It’s all about careful timing. And luck.


Who's giving you 5%?



2.5 to 3% tops for term deposits.


Rubbish! Look harder!


Ok smart arse - 0.05% to 4.65% across 106 banks, credit unions & building societies.

4.65% is for 2 years minimum. Many have very high minimum amounts.

Some are $1million minimum.

So my 2.5% to 3% is a good average of what's available with varying lock in time frames, minimums & maximum amounts.

https://www.finder.com.au/term-deposits?futm_medium=cpc&futm_source=google&futm_...


Well unfortunately for you I AM a smart @rse but only when it comes to investing after tax money because I was taught (as I was growing up) by poor hard working European migrant parents and extended family how to invest carefully and wisely in real estate AND in financial banking products/services. My parents arrived essentially as refugees with absolutely nothing but a suitcase of clothes and photos of their homeland. They also carried a heart and mind that was full of hope and gratitude to be able to come to Australia in the mid 1960’s. The fact that the Australian govt PAID for them to come back then was something they never forgot. Because of all this I can honestly say I owe whatever I’ve achieved in life to my European parents (and heritage). And that includes their smarts in making money.

Now let’s get back to you talking utter crap about Term Deposits.

Initially your comment was
👇

Quote:
2.5 to 3% tops for term deposits


After my post (to you) you then came back with this 👇


Quote:
Ok smart arse - 0.05% to 4.65% across 106 banks, credit unions & building societies.

4.65% is for 2 years minimum. Many have very high minimum amounts.


And yet again I can see that YOU are AS INCOMPETENT as ever when it comes to investing money. Don’t worry ... my husband (who is an experienced accountant) is just as incompetent as you. So take heart ...you’re in good company there 😂🤣😆

Now ... in between cooking dinner for tonight and cleaning the kitchen plus hanging out 2 loads of washing I took my iPhone out of my pocket and IT TOOK ME LESS THAN 60 seconds to find a term deposit investment interest rate of 4.8%. With bugger all minimum amount conditions.

Less than 60 seconds!

Moving on....as you know these rates do change but even TODAY you can invest here at 4.8% 👇



https://www.ratecity.com.au/term-deposits/judo-bank/personal-term-deposit?minimu...



Don't increase the font size i.e. shout at me or you can go & get well & truly phukked.

Capise? I'm not playing any stupid games with your personalities.

So take heart .... I couldn't give a phukk what you say or think.

Mull over that for a bit ... then come back & tell me whose multi I am ...

you bloody idiot. Angry


Awww diddums! And all because I pwned your ignorant arse and showed you up for not knowing much about investing money. Your latest come back consists of nothing more than utter irrelevant BS! Get over it pal! No one cares if the sensitive wings of your ego have been slightly ruffled.

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Reply #82 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 8:46pm
 
Millionaire bank CEOs are our superiors.
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Reply #83 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 9:42pm
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 8:26pm:
Sophia wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 5:47pm:



That's not exactly a term deposit


What is La Trobe 12 month term account?
12 Month Term Account aims to provide Investors with a reasonably stable and predictable income based on a monthly variable rate of return, investing in a wide range of loans secured by a mortgage in a range of industry sectors, with geographic diversification across Australia.


Still an option for good returns though.
This was advertised on tv tonight with this 12 month special @ 5.65%
So I looked it up.
This type of investment with good returns would suit some people that don’t want access to their money too soon. Maybe retirees?






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Reply #84 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 9:49pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 8:46pm:
Millionaire bank CEOs are our superiors.


Yep … I was listening to one that earns a million per annum talk tonight about how heavy hearted he was about struggling families with extra $1000 per month mortgage repayment.
I said to hubby….”heavy hearted? More like heavy wallet!”

How on earth can someone earning a million a year be empathetic with those that struggle with finances from day to day? I wish they would stop pretending!
These banks and their billions of $$$$ profit every year! And it’s increasing more so per annum!!

So their solution is… to expand the mortgage to 40 years so monthly payments are lower.
Roll Eyes


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Reply #85 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 9:52pm
 
Sophia wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 9:49pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 8:46pm:
Millionaire bank CEOs are our superiors.


Yep … I was listening to one that earns a million per annum talk tonight about how heavy hearted he was about struggling families with extra $1000 per month mortgage repayment.
I said to hubby….”heavy hearted? More like heavy wallet!”

How on earth can someone earning a million a year be empathetic with those that struggle with finances from day to day? I wish they would stop pretending!
These banks and their billions of $$$$ profit every year! And it’s increasing more so per annum!!

So their solution is… to expand the mortgage to 40 years so monthly payments are lower.
Roll Eyes



I don’t believe you heard that figure correctly. Why? It’s just too ridiculous.
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Reply #86 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 10:17pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 9:52pm:
Sophia wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 9:49pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 8:46pm:
Millionaire bank CEOs are our superiors.


Yep … I was listening to one that earns a million per annum talk tonight about how heavy hearted he was about struggling families with extra $1000 per month mortgage repayment.
I said to hubby….”heavy hearted? More like heavy wallet!”

How on earth can someone earning a million a year be empathetic with those that struggle with finances from day to day? I wish they would stop pretending!
These banks and their billions of $$$$ profit every year! And it’s increasing more so per annum!!

So their solution is… to expand the mortgage to 40 years so monthly payments are lower.
Roll Eyes



I don’t believe you heard that figure correctly. Why? It’s just too ridiculous.


Yep. That’s what was mentioned. Both hubby and I were watching this finance thing with the RBA guy being grilled with questions…on our Melbourne tv tonight and that’s what we both heard and I read it also as I have closed captions/teletext on.

The nerve of the RBA saying banks haven’t been tough enough to bring down inflation!

Like as if it’s the fault of us mere peons… how about making council rates, insurance, fines, registrations etc lower?
They’re the ones causing inflation with escalating costs.
Why so untouchable?

They’re cruising for a bruising and they will cause a recession… not us the people.





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Reply #87 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 10:33pm
 
Sophia wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 10:17pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 9:52pm:
Sophia wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 9:49pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 8:46pm:
Millionaire bank CEOs are our superiors.


Yep … I was listening to one that earns a million per annum talk tonight about how heavy hearted he was about struggling families with extra $1000 per month mortgage repayment.
I said to hubby….”heavy hearted? More like heavy wallet!”

How on earth can someone earning a million a year be empathetic with those that struggle with finances from day to day? I wish they would stop pretending!
These banks and their billions of $$$$ profit every year! And it’s increasing more so per annum!!

So their solution is… to expand the mortgage to 40 years so monthly payments are lower.
Roll Eyes



I don’t believe you heard that figure correctly. Why? It’s just too ridiculous.


Yep. That’s what was mentioned. Both hubby and I were watching this finance thing with the RBA guy being grilled with questions…on our Melbourne tv tonight and that’s what we both heard and I read it also as I have closed captions/teletext on.

The nerve of the RBA saying banks haven’t been tough enough to bring down inflation!

Like as if it’s the fault of us mere peons… how about making council rates, insurance, fines, registrations etc lower?
They’re the ones causing inflation with escalating costs.
Why so untouchable?

They’re cruising for a bruising and they will cause a recession… not us the people.




The RBA responds to failures of politicians who ruin our economy.

If our politicians did a good job with economic policy there would be no rise with interest rates.

It's going to get a lot worse.
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Reply #88 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 11:13pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 10:33pm:
Sophia wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 10:17pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 9:52pm:
Sophia wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 9:49pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 8:46pm:
Millionaire bank CEOs are our superiors.


Yep … I was listening to one that earns a million per annum talk tonight about how heavy hearted he was about struggling families with extra $1000 per month mortgage repayment.
I said to hubby….”heavy hearted? More like heavy wallet!”

How on earth can someone earning a million a year be empathetic with those that struggle with finances from day to day? I wish they would stop pretending!
These banks and their billions of $$$$ profit every year! And it’s increasing more so per annum!!

So their solution is… to expand the mortgage to 40 years so monthly payments are lower.
Roll Eyes



I don’t believe you heard that figure correctly. Why? It’s just too ridiculous.


Yep. That’s what was mentioned. Both hubby and I were watching this finance thing with the RBA guy being grilled with questions…on our Melbourne tv tonight and that’s what we both heard and I read it also as I have closed captions/teletext on.

The nerve of the RBA saying banks haven’t been tough enough to bring down inflation!

Like as if it’s the fault of us mere peons… how about making council rates, insurance, fines, registrations etc lower?
They’re the ones causing inflation with escalating costs.
Why so untouchable?

They’re cruising for a bruising and they will cause a recession… not us the people.




The RBA responds to failures of politicians who ruin our economy.

If our politicians did a good job with economic policy there would be no rise with interest rates.

It's going to get a lot worse.


I’m still trying to get over the notion of a 40 year mortgage 😳

It’s absolutely bizarre.

I mean our kids are paying Income Tax plus Uni fees off after they finish Uni. Those Uni fees are huge nowadays and that is what is holding back our good and smart kids (who have done the right thing and busted their guts to study hard and get into and through Uni) from getting that deposit to buy a home.

Let me see if I understand this correctly :

Our kids are educated from age 4 to 18. That covers pre school, infants, primary & high school. They can’t get a full time job.

From age 18 to age 22/23 they go through tertiary study. Those 4 to 5 years of Uni really mean they can’t get a full time job.

Once they graduate say at age 23/24 they’re stuck with a huge Uni debt + income tax for decades.

Now you’re telling me that the proposed “new normal“ is for our kids to get into a 40 year mortgage noose.

Well for that to happen our kids must first find a full time job (you’re not gonna get a mortgage otherwise). And they will need 25% (deposit/stamp duty/legal fees/due diligence etc).

To get to this position while paying income tax AND a hefty Uni debt back they MIGHT get there at age 30. Even then they will need help from Mum n Dad.

Now add 40 to 30 and they get to pay off their mortgage at age 70.

And that’s just for a bloody unit in Sydney!

Units in Sydney (average 2 bedder in an average area) are around 800K now. These units are a high risk venture irrespective of where they’re located because you are only buying AIR SPACE! You don’t own the walls or floors or ground.

So my question is this : who’s educated kids with good jobs will be able to afford an actual home ie an average house sitting on land in an average area of Sydney. Note : That figure right now is around $2 million.

Answer?

1. The rich
2. The foreign rich

Can someone remind me again which Federal political party is in office right now?i



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Reply #89 - Feb 15th, 2023 at 11:37pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 11:13pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 10:33pm:
Sophia wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 10:17pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 9:52pm:
Sophia wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 9:49pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 15th, 2023 at 8:46pm:
Millionaire bank CEOs are our superiors.


Yep … I was listening to one that earns a million per annum talk tonight about how heavy hearted he was about struggling families with extra $1000 per month mortgage repayment.
I said to hubby….”heavy hearted? More like heavy wallet!”

How on earth can someone earning a million a year be empathetic with those that struggle with finances from day to day? I wish they would stop pretending!
These banks and their billions of $$$$ profit every year! And it’s increasing more so per annum!!

So their solution is… to expand the mortgage to 40 years so monthly payments are lower.
Roll Eyes



I don’t believe you heard that figure correctly. Why? It’s just too ridiculous.


Yep. That’s what was mentioned. Both hubby and I were watching this finance thing with the RBA guy being grilled with questions…on our Melbourne tv tonight and that’s what we both heard and I read it also as I have closed captions/teletext on.

The nerve of the RBA saying banks haven’t been tough enough to bring down inflation!

Like as if it’s the fault of us mere peons… how about making council rates, insurance, fines, registrations etc lower?
They’re the ones causing inflation with escalating costs.
Why so untouchable?

They’re cruising for a bruising and they will cause a recession… not us the people.




The RBA responds to failures of politicians who ruin our economy.

If our politicians did a good job with economic policy there would be no rise with interest rates.

It's going to get a lot worse.


I’m still trying to get over the notion of a 40 year mortgage 😳

It’s absolutely bizarre.




The idea of it mentioned (expanding the 30 yr to 40 yr mortgage) is to make repayments cheaper as on average… most are now paying $1000 a month extra with rates risen in quick succession.

But… I can’t see this as a permanent long term answer, maybe for immediate relief in the now, however… whatever savings any family could make with an extended 10 year mortgage repayment plan, will be short lived simply because … as mentioned by that RBA guy… they do not know when the interest rates will stop or even if it’s reached it’s peak!

They may give with one hand… but will take that and more with another hand!

I always thought it was a better idea to try and pay as much as you can in the first year or two of a mortgage to make it easier in the long haul and to shorten the duration of the loan, thus saving heaps at the end.
What do we see instead? These super low interest rates these past few years (I have never in my life seen it so low) and this was a time when…. Knuckling down to put in extra would’ve been so advantageous. But no… many just didn’t get it  Roll Eyes
That opportunity is now fading fast…
Remember the adage play now pay later…whereas it could’ve been pay now play later.


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