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Reply #120 - Mar 9th, 2023 at 9:10am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 8:27am:
ShellShiloh posted REAMS of anti vaxxer stuff in my fine forum. Didn’t think it might be a bot tho.


It seems to too often miss the mark and is too well referenced. It seems strange to be both not comprehending the point it is responding to and to have a ream of well researched referenced material at hand. It shows simultaneously a low to moderate intelligence and a highly trained and educated brain. 

The format / structure indicates someone a lot smarter than the comprehension level displayed. It could be someone using a tool to generate the answer.
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Reply #121 - Mar 9th, 2023 at 9:24am
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 5:04am:
Western nation populations are so farrking nieve.

Who's the only country in the world to use nuclear weapons in conflict?
And you lot are fair up their arse to use more.
It's quite concerning really.
Put it down to stupid old men. That's all you lot are. Stupid old hypnotised morons cheering on a terrorist organisation.

Who's military makes global trade possible? And it ain't Leichtenstein.

How do goods get from one side of the world to the other without being stolen, or hijacked, or the ships carrying them getting pirated and confiscated by latter-day tin pot robber barons and their states?
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Reply #122 - Mar 9th, 2023 at 10:28am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 7:04am:
Another giveaway is lack of genuine engagement. The bots can imitate humans in a one-off, one way dialogue. Rather well, and it is a bit scary TBH. But as soon as there is any back and forth requiring it to understand what the other person is saying or demonstrate understanding of what they themselves are saying, they fail miserably. So they tend to "blurt out" an endless succession of sometimes-relevant facts. They are a bit like a barely-functional autistic person.


Ahhh like Jordan Shanks then. Gotcha 👌
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Reply #123 - Mar 9th, 2023 at 6:51pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 10:28am:
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 7:04am:
Another giveaway is lack of genuine engagement. The bots can imitate humans in a one-off, one way dialogue. Rather well, and it is a bit scary TBH. But as soon as there is any back and forth requiring it to understand what the other person is saying or demonstrate understanding of what they themselves are saying, they fail miserably. So they tend to "blurt out" an endless succession of sometimes-relevant facts. They are a bit like a barely-functional autistic person.


Ahhh like Jordan Shanks then. Gotcha 👌


Thank you Lisa. I really enjoy Jordan's work. He reminds me of the "Planet American" show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmJ7CSRRCDM
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Reply #124 - Mar 9th, 2023 at 9:07pm
 
ShellShilo wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 6:51pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 10:28am:
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 7:04am:
Another giveaway is lack of genuine engagement. The bots can imitate humans in a one-off, one way dialogue. Rather well, and it is a bit scary TBH. But as soon as there is any back and forth requiring it to understand what the other person is saying or demonstrate understanding of what they themselves are saying, they fail miserably. So they tend to "blurt out" an endless succession of sometimes-relevant facts. They are a bit like a barely-functional autistic person.


Ahhh like Jordan Shanks then. Gotcha 👌


Thank you Lisa. I really enjoy Jordan's work. He reminds me of the "Planet American" show.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmJ7CSRRCDM 

Yes Jordan is brilliant, and obviously difficult to counter by someone like Clive. 
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Reply #125 - Mar 9th, 2023 at 9:58pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 9:07pm:
ShellShilo wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 6:51pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 10:28am:
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 7:04am:
Another giveaway is lack of genuine engagement. The bots can imitate humans in a one-off, one way dialogue. Rather well, and it is a bit scary TBH. But as soon as there is any back and forth requiring it to understand what the other person is saying or demonstrate understanding of what they themselves are saying, they fail miserably. So they tend to "blurt out" an endless succession of sometimes-relevant facts. They are a bit like a barely-functional autistic person.


Ahhh like Jordan Shanks then. Gotcha 👌


Thank you Lisa. I really enjoy Jordan's work. He reminds me of the "Planet American" show.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmJ7CSRRCDM 

Yes Jordan is brilliant, and obviously difficult to counter by someone like Clive. 

Responding to a Chinese AI bot, eh! What a surprise! Not!
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Reply #126 - Mar 9th, 2023 at 10:19pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 9:58pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 9:07pm:
ShellShilo wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 6:51pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 10:28am:
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 7:04am:
Another giveaway is lack of genuine engagement. The bots can imitate humans in a one-off, one way dialogue. Rather well, and it is a bit scary TBH. But as soon as there is any back and forth requiring it to understand what the other person is saying or demonstrate understanding of what they themselves are saying, they fail miserably. So they tend to "blurt out" an endless succession of sometimes-relevant facts. They are a bit like a barely-functional autistic person.


Ahhh like Jordan Shanks then. Gotcha 👌


Thank you Lisa. I really enjoy Jordan's work. He reminds me of the "Planet American" show.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmJ7CSRRCDM 

Yes Jordan is brilliant, and obviously difficult to counter by someone like Clive. 

Responding to a Chinese AI bot, eh! What a surprise! Not!


I'll bite: who is the 'AI bot' (Chinese or otherwise), and what is being responded to (other than a clearly brilliant Jordan Shanks  take down of Clive Palmer?).

Oh...  I remember -  the reference to the CCP in the video....a long shot, Meister 
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Reply #127 - Mar 10th, 2023 at 1:57am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 8th, 2023 at 5:12pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Mar 8th, 2023 at 3:51pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 8th, 2023 at 11:36am:
Captain Caveman wrote on Mar 8th, 2023 at 5:19am:
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 7th, 2023 at 10:23am:
issuevoter wrote on Mar 4th, 2023 at 12:20pm:
Utter rubbish from Lavrov and those here who half believe him. But I wouldn't expect any less from a bunch Leftist America-hating Australians who have always sympathised with the communists.

Putin and his thugs started getting ready for this war in 2013 when his puppet got kicked out of Kiev. First Georgia, and the West did nothing. Next Crimea, then those "maneuvers" on the boarder in 2021.

However, the Russian federation guaranteed Ukraine's sovereignty in exchange for their nuclear weapons in 1994. That was just the first of their post-Soviet lies.

The Russians have always been liars. They lied about involvement in the Korean War because they were afraid of the UN forces. They lied about involvement in Vietnam too.


Bullshit....The only people defending Putin are Gordon and his ilk from the right....Where has anyone on the Left defended Putin???

Huh Huh Huh



Saying NATO US started this is not defending Putin, you batshyte crazy retard.


Yes it is cock sucker....When you claim Russia is innocent and the West are responsible for Russian planes and tanks attacking Ukraine you are defending Putin you dickhead....You are a pathetic piece of crap aren't you???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Bwahahahaha.
America have been doing this around the world for years.
Not my problem you're to God damned retarded to see whats going on.
Keep licking cnn windows. They're all dirty to the core.


I thought it was lefty's defending Putin not half wit right wing arseholes???

Communist....Putin has you sucked in!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Firstly Communism has been banned in Russia since 1991. And, since 1993 Russia has been a Constitutional Federal Republic. And secondly, Communism is a Left-wing ideology, not a Right-wing.

I'm certainly no type of bot(whatever that means). And, I DO research everything that I post. I don't want to look like an idiot when my points are challenged. I certainly may be autistic. But at my age who gives a s**t! Since I am also NOT that good a creative writer, I certainly might misinterpret some your comments. But, I will always respond to what a person says, and never to HOW a person says it. This is NOT a creative writing forum.

I'll speak more about this silly nonsense later. 
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Reply #128 - Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:56pm
 
I am under no illusion, that after decades of anti-Russian depictions and propaganda by America(and its NATO lackey), that I will ever make a dent in the cognitive bias of the typical red white and blue toady sycophant. They will always find a way to rationalize and justify anything that the US does as good or necessary. Including, foreign executions, war crimes(Abu Ghraib), murders(Soleimani), covert terrorism, illegal foreign occupation(Syria), racism, or even forcing regime changes, and overthrowing governments.

I have absolutely zero respect for any country where its leaders can continually, and openly lie to its people. And still, the people continue to believe it(WMD's, the Gulf of Tonkin Incident, Bay of Pigs, etc.).

I have absolutely zero respect for any country that has roughly 750 foreign military bases in over 80 countries. This is 3 times the number of foreign military bases, than all the other countries COMBINED(Russia has 36).

I have zero respect for a country that always runs its government at a budget deficit(spends more than it receives). And, is the most indebted nation on the planet($32T in national debt, NOT total debt!). The total amount of circulating money in the world is around $40T.

I have zero respect for a country that keeps promising domestic/foreign policy reforms every election year, but delivers nothing(minimum wages, universal healthcare, cheaper drugs, etc.). No change!

I have zero respect for a country that must be the military bitch for the no.1 terrorist country in the world(Saudi Arabia). If the US refuses, the Saudis could change the petrol dollars from $US to another currency. This would not only cripple the US's "floating dollar" economy, but the US could no longer threaten any country with sanctions. In fact, other countries could now threaten the US with sanctions.

I have zero respect for any country that ignores its own Constitution whenever it suits them(Congressional approval for all foreign military actions).

I have zero respect for any country that lies, breaks treaties(Iran), or abandons allies(Kurds, Iraq, Gaddafi), whenever it suits their latest agenda.

Finally, I have zero respect for any country that could elect an openly bigoted, racist, misogynistic, narcissistic, twice impeached,  lying conman as their leader. And later, elect a senile octogenarian as their next leader. Clearly, Americans are NOT serious about having social changes. They just love watching the soapy-like political shows, and hearing again the same promises for change every 4 years. Or, MOTSS.

Anyway, back to the topic. There are four reasons why the US/NATO should abandon this insanity. IMHO

One. There is no legal/NATO/international statute, that directly gives any country the right to arm, or provide military support to any countries engaged in a military conflict. Arming nations for defense-only, ignores the actual cause for the conflict in the first place. And, it sets a very dangerous precedence for other nations to follow.

Should NATO/US adopt the policy of defending any nations being attacked by another nation? Did this alliance provide defensive assistance to the Palestinians, when they were being attacked by Israel? How about the Kurds in Iraq, or the Houthi rebels in Yemen? Where was this defensive support from NATO??

Two. NATO/US armed support, may be killing more Russian soldiers, but it is also prolonging the conflict, creating a refugee crisis, destroying/razing the entire country, and increasing the number of Ukrainian body bags. With no exit strategy in sight, this proxy conflict may come down to the LAST Ukrainian standing! 

Three. There are 5 NATO Democratic countries that border Russia. All are armed with nukes or other missiles aimed at Moscow. NATO has always claimed that their military exercises, and armaments are for defense only(just like Cuba claimed about its missiles). So Russia should NOT feel an existential threat to their security? Are you kidding??

Four. Russia has around 2K tactical nukes. The US has around 200 tactical nukes. The US is now sending its watered-down nukes into the fray. What do you think will happen, when the US tells that star-struck idiotic US puppet(Zelensky), that he should use these weapons only as defensive weapons? And, who do you think Russia will blame when they are used against Russian soldiers? This is how the US strategizes. "Plausible Deniability"!! It's the true American way!!

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-us-lowers-nuclear-threshold-by-deploying-new-nuclear-bombs-europe-2022-10-29/#:~:text=Russia%20has%20about%202%2C000%20working,Turkey%2C%20Belgium%20and%20the%20Netherlands.

Since nobody chooses any of the circumstances of their birth(place, race, gender, time, etc.), nationalism and patriotism produces only the arrogance that foster elitism, and aggression towards other nations. This conflict has nothing to do with me. But if we keep upping the intensity of this conflict, only the Ukrainian people will suffer. The Ukraine has already lost almost 30% of its territory. And, if we keep bragging about the number of Russians killed, and about Russian incompetence, this conflict will have everything to do with me. And, the rest of the world.

This will go down in history, as the nuclear war we could've easily avoided. But don't worry! Biden said, that he doesn't think Putin will use tactical nukes! No matter how much we provoke him! 


   
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Reply #129 - Mar 11th, 2023 at 7:37am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 10:19pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 9:58pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 9:07pm:
ShellShilo wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 6:51pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 10:28am:
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 7:04am:
Another giveaway is lack of genuine engagement. The bots can imitate humans in a one-off, one way dialogue. Rather well, and it is a bit scary TBH. But as soon as there is any back and forth requiring it to understand what the other person is saying or demonstrate understanding of what they themselves are saying, they fail miserably. So they tend to "blurt out" an endless succession of sometimes-relevant facts. They are a bit like a barely-functional autistic person.


Ahhh like Jordan Shanks then. Gotcha 👌


Thank you Lisa. I really enjoy Jordan's work. He reminds me of the "Planet American" show.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmJ7CSRRCDM 

Yes Jordan is brilliant, and obviously difficult to counter by someone like Clive. 

Responding to a Chinese AI bot, eh! What a surprise! Not!


I'll bite: who is the 'AI bot' (Chinese or otherwise), and what is being responded to (other than a clearly brilliant Jordan Shanks  take down of Clive Palmer?).

Oh...  I remember -  the reference to the CCP in the video....a long shot, Meister 


We used to get regular drive by spammers in the Europe and global boards. Posting on topics like Ukraine and other mostly eastern European stuff. This was before the most recent flare up. At the time I couldn't figure out what it was about. But I now suspect it was Russian propaganda bots. They would post a very lengthy article and then disappear, never returning. Sometimes when I googled the article I could not find it anywhere else.

Since then the CCP stooges like you have turned up, blurring the lines even further.
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Reply #130 - Mar 11th, 2023 at 9:45am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 11th, 2023 at 7:37am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 10:19pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 9:58pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 9:07pm:
ShellShilo wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 6:51pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 10:28am:
freediver wrote on Mar 9th, 2023 at 7:04am:
Another giveaway is lack of genuine engagement. The bots can imitate humans in a one-off, one way dialogue. Rather well, and it is a bit scary TBH. But as soon as there is any back and forth requiring it to understand what the other person is saying or demonstrate understanding of what they themselves are saying, they fail miserably. So they tend to "blurt out" an endless succession of sometimes-relevant facts. They are a bit like a barely-functional autistic person.


Ahhh like Jordan Shanks then. Gotcha 👌


Thank you Lisa. I really enjoy Jordan's work. He reminds me of the "Planet American" show.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmJ7CSRRCDM 

Yes Jordan is brilliant, and obviously difficult to counter by someone like Clive. 

Responding to a Chinese AI bot, eh! What a surprise! Not!


I'll bite: who is the 'AI bot' (Chinese or otherwise), and what is being responded to (other than a clearly brilliant Jordan Shanks  take down of Clive Palmer?).

Oh...  I remember -  the reference to the CCP in the video....a long shot, Meister 


We used to get regular drive by spammers in the Europe and global boards. Posting on topics like Ukraine and other mostly eastern European stuff. This was before the most recent flare up. At the time I couldn't figure out what it was about. But I now suspect it was Russian propaganda bots. They would post a very lengthy article and then disappear, never returning. Sometimes when I googled the article I could not find it anywhere else.

Since then the CCP stooges like you have turned up, blurring the lines even further.


Ah...thanks, that explains my confusion re Meister's comment (being aware of your ideological blinkers and all...)
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Reply #131 - Mar 11th, 2023 at 10:09am
 
....parroting decades old communist propaganda about the evils of capitalism and what a dirt poor place America is. It got even funnier when you tried to garner sympathy for Australia's poor, when our unemployment benefits are several times higher than the median Chinese wage.

I can see how they managed to hoodwink people back then, but are the Chinese still stupid enough to believe that crap? Or are you trying to convince us?
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Reply #132 - Mar 11th, 2023 at 10:50am
 
ShellShilo wrote on Mar 10th, 2023 at 11:56pm:
I am under no illusion, that after decades of anti-Russian depictions and propaganda by America(and its NATO lackey), that I will ever make a dent in the cognitive bias of the typical red white and blue toady sycophant. They will always find a way to rationalize and justify anything that the US does as good or necessary. Including, foreign executions, war crimes(Abu Ghraib), murders(Soleimani), covert terrorism, illegal foreign occupation(Syria), racism, or even forcing regime changes, and overthrowing governments.

If mairzy doats and dozy doats and liddle lamzy divey, a kiddley divey too, wouldn't you?
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Reply #133 - Mar 11th, 2023 at 4:01pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 11th, 2023 at 10:09am:
....parroting decades old communist propaganda about the evils of capitalism and what a dirt poor place America is. It got even funnier when you tried to garner sympathy for Australia's poor, when our unemployment benefits are several times higher than the median Chinese wage.

I can see how they managed to hoodwink people back then, but are the Chinese still stupid enough to believe that crap? Or are you trying to convince us?


I'm not trying to convince you of anything. We are way past lateral thinking and open-mindedness! What communist propaganda are you talking about?? Have you ever been to America? A country where the people would sell their mother for a bigger tip. Have you ever visited the projects(subsidized housing), or the soup-kitchens and half-way houses in the US? Have you ever had to stepped over the beggars outside of the post office? A country where 1 in 8 children face hunger everyday. Feel free to correct any facts that you might feel are incorrect. Is this the communist propaganda that you mean??

https://moveforhunger.org/hunger-facts?gclid=Cj0KCQiAx6ugBhCcARIsAGNmMbg1GBha3yg
8vfHtWkXJF2_1KaNUQccr4-fuEyrXenRu3YlNVYOg85gaAtgFEALw_wcB

Regarding capitalism, where your individual worth is based ONLY on the amount of the capital that you can consume. The more capital you can consume, the more you are worth.

If you sell a loaf of bread for a $1 to 10 people, each person has $1 less capital. You will gain $10 more capital. Minus 50%(or less) on all the overheads, you will increase your overall capital by $5. As more and more people consume/buy more and more bread, your capital will continue to increase. And the less and less capital for the people buying the bread can consume. Therefore, capitalism in a free market system will always produce a schism between the consumers and the producers. As the producers get richer, the consumers will become poorer(unable to consume). This is an unavoidable byproduct of capitalism.

Our(?) unemployment benefits may be higher than the median wage of Chinese workers. But there are many other factors that you might want to consider. Such as the cost of living, goods and services in China. The less wages you make, the cheaper the cost of living. 
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Reply #134 - Mar 11th, 2023 at 4:24pm
 
ShellShilo wrote on Mar 11th, 2023 at 4:01pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 11th, 2023 at 10:09am:
....parroting decades old communist propaganda about the evils of capitalism and what a dirt poor place America is. It got even funnier when you tried to garner sympathy for Australia's poor, when our unemployment benefits are several times higher than the median Chinese wage.

I can see how they managed to hoodwink people back then, but are the Chinese still stupid enough to believe that crap? Or are you trying to convince us?


I'm not trying to convince you of anything. We are way past lateral thinking and open-mindedness! What communist propaganda are you talking about?? Have you ever been to America? A country where the people would sell their mother for a bigger tip. Have you ever visited the projects(subsidized housing), or the soup-kitchens and half-way houses in the US? Have you ever had to stepped over the beggars outside of the post office? A country where 1 in 8 children face hunger everyday. Feel free to correct any facts that you might feel are incorrect. Is this the communist propaganda that you mean??

https://moveforhunger.org/hunger-facts?gclid=Cj0KCQiAx6ugBhCcARIsAGNmMbg1GBha3yg
8vfHtWkXJF2_1KaNUQccr4-fuEyrXenRu3YlNVYOg85gaAtgFEALw_wcB

Regarding capitalism, where your individual worth is based ONLY on the amount of the capital that you can consume. The more capital you can consume, the more you are worth.

If you sell a loaf of bread for a $1 to 10 people, each person has $1 less capital. You will gain $10 more capital. Minus 50%(or less) on all the overheads, you will increase your overall capital by $5. As more and more people consume/buy more and more bread, your capital will continue to increase. And the less and less capital for the people buying the bread can consume. Therefore, capitalism in a free market system will always produce a schism between the consumers and the producers. As the producers get richer, the consumers will become poorer(unable to consume). This is an unavoidable byproduct of capitalism.

Our(?) unemployment benefits may be higher than the median wage of Chinese workers. But there are many other factors that you might want to consider. Such as the cost of living, goods and services in China. The less wages you make, the cheaper the cost of living. 

Yep. A Chinese bot.
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