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Reply #75 - Mar 13th, 2023 at 2:28pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 2:09pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 12th, 2023 at 5:27pm:
Even one death, unnecessary is a tragedy, Matty.  Like all right-wing social justice warriors you misuse statistics badly to try and prove your case.  Any society that is willing to tolerate that rate of loss through such a means as easily eliminated as guns is obviously dysfunctional.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



tell it to obama who has bombed yemen civilains into oblivion,
who dropedd more drones on weddings then any other president

thank god the noble donald came along and tried to stop the madness


Do you have anything to support your bullshit mate???

Quote:
Trump may have bombed Yemen more than all previous US presidents combined, new report finds


Quote:
Donald Trump Is Dropping Bombs at Unprecedented Levels


Huh Huh Huh

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-have-bombed-yemen-more-than-bush-and-obama...

https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/09/donald-trump-is-dropping-bombs-at-unprecede...
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Reply #76 - Mar 13th, 2023 at 2:32pm
 
The Government of Venezuela went door to door collecting all guns and now murders its own people.

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Police and security forces have killed nearly 18,000 people in Venezuela in instances of alleged “resistance to authority” since 2016. Interior Minister Néstor Reverol reported in December 2017 that there were 5,995 such cases in 2016 and 4,998 in 2017. Venezuelan security forces killed nearly 7,000 people in incidents they claimed were cases of “resistance to authority” in 2018 and the first five months of 2019, according to official figures cited by the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR).

Nobody has yet compiled detailed information as to how many of these killings by security forces have been extrajudicial executions, but OHCHR concluded that “many” may constitute extrajudicial killings. Human Rights Watch documented several such killings in 2019.

Between 2015 and 2017, Venezuelan security forces swept through low-income communities during what was known as the “Operation to Liberate and Protect the People” (Operación de Liberación y Protección del Pueblo, OLP). Participating security forces included the Bolivarian National Guard, the Bolivarian National Police (PNB), the Bolivarian National Intelligence Service (SEBIN), the Scientific, Penal, and Criminal Investigative Police (CICPC), and state police.

These raids resulted in widespread allegations of violations such as extrajudicial killings, mass arbitrary detentions, mistreatment of detainees, forced evictions, destruction of homes, and arbitrary deportations. In November 2017, Venezuela’s then-attorney general said security forces had killed more than 500 people during OLP raids. Government officials repeatedly said the OLP victims were armed criminals who had died during “confrontations.” In many cases, witnesses or families of victims challenged these claims. In several cases, victims were last seen alive in police custody. 

FAES, a special police force created in 2017 to combat drug trafficking and criminal organizations, replaced the OLPs in security operations. FAES officials have committed egregious violations, including killings and torture, with impunity in low-income communities that no longer support Nicolás Maduro. OHCHR reported that “authorities may be using FAES and other security forces as an instrument to instill fear in the population and to maintain social control.”   

Impunity for Abuses
Venezuelan authorities reported that, as of June 2019, 44 people were detained and 33 arrest warrants were issued for people allegedly responsible for killings during demonstrations in 2017 and 2019. Authorities claim five FAES agents were convicted of attempted murder and other crimes for events occurred in 2018, and that another 388 FAES agents were under investigation for alleged crimes committed in 2017 and 2019.

Impunity for human rights abuses, however, remains the norm. OHCHR reported in July 2019 that factors contributing to impunity include “lack of cooperation by security and armed forces with investigations,” “the tampering with crime scenes” by security forces, and de facto immunity of senior officials, and lack of judicial independence.

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/venezuela
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Reply #77 - Mar 13th, 2023 at 3:06pm
 
Boris wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 2:32pm:
The Government of Venezuela went door to door collecting all guns and now murders its own people.

You must love that

Police and security forces have killed nearly 18,000 people in Venezuela in instances of alleged “resistance to authority” since 2016. Interior Minister Néstor Reverol reported in December 2017 that there were 5,995 such cases in 2016 and 4,998 in 2017. Venezuelan security forces killed nearly 7,000 people in incidents they claimed were cases of “resistance to authority” in 2018 and the first five months of 2019, according to official figures cited by the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR).

Nobody has yet compiled detailed information as to how many of these killings by security forces have been extrajudicial executions, but OHCHR concluded that “many” may constitute extrajudicial killings. Human Rights Watch documented several such killings in 2019.

Between 2015 and 2017, Venezuelan security forces swept through low-income communities during what was known as the “Operation to Liberate and Protect the People” (Operación de Liberación y Protección del Pueblo, OLP). Participating security forces included the Bolivarian National Guard, the Bolivarian National Police (PNB), the Bolivarian National Intelligence Service (SEBIN), the Scientific, Penal, and Criminal Investigative Police (CICPC), and state police.

These raids resulted in widespread allegations of violations such as extrajudicial killings, mass arbitrary detentions, mistreatment of detainees, forced evictions, destruction of homes, and arbitrary deportations. In November 2017, Venezuela’s then-attorney general said security forces had killed more than 500 people during OLP raids. Government officials repeatedly said the OLP victims were armed criminals who had died during “confrontations.” In many cases, witnesses or families of victims challenged these claims. In several cases, victims were last seen alive in police custody. 

FAES, a special police force created in 2017 to combat drug trafficking and criminal organizations, replaced the OLPs in security operations. FAES officials have committed egregious violations, including killings and torture, with impunity in low-income communities that no longer support Nicolás Maduro. OHCHR reported that “authorities may be using FAES and other security forces as an instrument to instill fear in the population and to maintain social control.”   

Impunity for Abuses
Venezuelan authorities reported that, as of June 2019, 44 people were detained and 33 arrest warrants were issued for people allegedly responsible for killings during demonstrations in 2017 and 2019. Authorities claim five FAES agents were convicted of attempted murder and other crimes for events occurred in 2018, and that another 388 FAES agents were under investigation for alleged crimes committed in 2017 and 2019.

Impunity for human rights abuses, however, remains the norm. OHCHR reported in July 2019 that factors contributing to impunity include “lack of cooperation by security and armed forces with investigations,” “the tampering with crime scenes” by security forces, and de facto immunity of senior officials, and lack of judicial independence.

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/venezuela



Venezuela....What does this have to do with the topic???

Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #78 - Mar 13th, 2023 at 3:10pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 2:28pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 2:09pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 12th, 2023 at 5:27pm:
Even one death, unnecessary is a tragedy, Matty.  Like all right-wing social justice warriors you misuse statistics badly to try and prove your case.  Any society that is willing to tolerate that rate of loss through such a means as easily eliminated as guns is obviously dysfunctional.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



tell it to obama who has bombed yemen civilains into oblivion,
who dropedd more drones on weddings then any other president

thank god the noble donald came along and tried to stop the madness


Do you have anything to support your bullshit mate???

Quote:
Trump may have bombed Yemen more than all previous US presidents combined, new report finds


Quote:
Donald Trump Is Dropping Bombs at Unprecedented Levels


Huh Huh Huh

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-have-bombed-yemen-more-than-bush-and-obama...

https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/09/donald-trump-is-dropping-bombs-at-unprecede...



There were ten times more air strikes in the covert war on terror during President Barack Obama’s presidency than under his predecessor, George W. Bush.

Obama embraced the US drone programme, overseeing more strikes in his first year than Bush carried out during his entire presidency. A total of 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeted Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen during Obama’s two terms, compared to 57 strikes under Bush.
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Reply #79 - Mar 13th, 2023 at 3:12pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 3:06pm:
Boris wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 2:32pm:
The Government of Venezuela went door to door collecting all guns and now murders its own people.

You must love that

Police and security forces have killed nearly 18,000 people in Venezuela in instances of alleged “resistance to authority” since 2016. Interior Minister Néstor Reverol reported in December 2017 that there were 5,995 such cases in 2016 and 4,998 in 2017. Venezuelan security forces killed nearly 7,000 people in incidents they claimed were cases of “resistance to authority” in 2018 and the first five months of 2019, according to official figures cited by the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR).

Nobody has yet compiled detailed information as to how many of these killings by security forces have been extrajudicial executions, but OHCHR concluded that “many” may constitute extrajudicial killings. Human Rights Watch documented several such killings in 2019.

Between 2015 and 2017, Venezuelan security forces swept through low-income communities during what was known as the “Operation to Liberate and Protect the People” (Operación de Liberación y Protección del Pueblo, OLP). Participating security forces included the Bolivarian National Guard, the Bolivarian National Police (PNB), the Bolivarian National Intelligence Service (SEBIN), the Scientific, Penal, and Criminal Investigative Police (CICPC), and state police.

These raids resulted in widespread allegations of violations such as extrajudicial killings, mass arbitrary detentions, mistreatment of detainees, forced evictions, destruction of homes, and arbitrary deportations. In November 2017, Venezuela’s then-attorney general said security forces had killed more than 500 people during OLP raids. Government officials repeatedly said the OLP victims were armed criminals who had died during “confrontations.” In many cases, witnesses or families of victims challenged these claims. In several cases, victims were last seen alive in police custody. 

FAES, a special police force created in 2017 to combat drug trafficking and criminal organizations, replaced the OLPs in security operations. FAES officials have committed egregious violations, including killings and torture, with impunity in low-income communities that no longer support Nicolás Maduro. OHCHR reported that “authorities may be using FAES and other security forces as an instrument to instill fear in the population and to maintain social control.”   

Impunity for Abuses
Venezuelan authorities reported that, as of June 2019, 44 people were detained and 33 arrest warrants were issued for people allegedly responsible for killings during demonstrations in 2017 and 2019. Authorities claim five FAES agents were convicted of attempted murder and other crimes for events occurred in 2018, and that another 388 FAES agents were under investigation for alleged crimes committed in 2017 and 2019.

Impunity for human rights abuses, however, remains the norm. OHCHR reported in July 2019 that factors contributing to impunity include “lack of cooperation by security and armed forces with investigations,” “the tampering with crime scenes” by security forces, and de facto immunity of senior officials, and lack of judicial independence.

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/venezuela



Venezuela....What does this have to do with the topic???

Huh Huh Huh


venezuela is your socialist utopia.

AOC is a huge supporter
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Reply #80 - Mar 13th, 2023 at 3:34pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 3:10pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 2:28pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 2:09pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 12th, 2023 at 5:27pm:
Even one death, unnecessary is a tragedy, Matty.  Like all right-wing social justice warriors you misuse statistics badly to try and prove your case.  Any society that is willing to tolerate that rate of loss through such a means as easily eliminated as guns is obviously dysfunctional.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



tell it to obama who has bombed yemen civilains into oblivion,
who dropedd more drones on weddings then any other president

thank god the noble donald came along and tried to stop the madness


Do you have anything to support your bullshit mate???

Quote:
Trump may have bombed Yemen more than all previous US presidents combined, new report finds


Quote:
Donald Trump Is Dropping Bombs at Unprecedented Levels


Huh Huh Huh

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-have-bombed-yemen-more-than-bush-and-obama...

https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/09/donald-trump-is-dropping-bombs-at-unprecede...



There were ten times more air strikes in the covert war on terror during President Barack Obama’s presidency than under his predecessor, George W. Bush.

Obama embraced the US drone programme, overseeing more strikes in his first year than Bush carried out during his entire presidency. A total of 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeted Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen during Obama’s two terms, compared to 57 strikes under Bush.


My post referenced the Noble Donald Trump who dropped more bombs on Yemin than all his  predecessors combined....Bush Jr started the war....I note you are no longer defending your bullshit!!!

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Reply #81 - Mar 13th, 2023 at 4:36pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 3:12pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 3:06pm:
Boris wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 2:32pm:
The Government of Venezuela went door to door collecting all guns and now murders its own people.

You must love that

Police and security forces have killed nearly 18,000 people in Venezuela in instances of alleged “resistance to authority” since 2016. Interior Minister Néstor Reverol reported in December 2017 that there were 5,995 such cases in 2016 and 4,998 in 2017. Venezuelan security forces killed nearly 7,000 people in incidents they claimed were cases of “resistance to authority” in 2018 and the first five months of 2019, according to official figures cited by the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR).

Nobody has yet compiled detailed information as to how many of these killings by security forces have been extrajudicial executions, but OHCHR concluded that “many” may constitute extrajudicial killings. Human Rights Watch documented several such killings in 2019.

Between 2015 and 2017, Venezuelan security forces swept through low-income communities during what was known as the “Operation to Liberate and Protect the People” (Operación de Liberación y Protección del Pueblo, OLP). Participating security forces included the Bolivarian National Guard, the Bolivarian National Police (PNB), the Bolivarian National Intelligence Service (SEBIN), the Scientific, Penal, and Criminal Investigative Police (CICPC), and state police.

These raids resulted in widespread allegations of violations such as extrajudicial killings, mass arbitrary detentions, mistreatment of detainees, forced evictions, destruction of homes, and arbitrary deportations. In November 2017, Venezuela’s then-attorney general said security forces had killed more than 500 people during OLP raids. Government officials repeatedly said the OLP victims were armed criminals who had died during “confrontations.” In many cases, witnesses or families of victims challenged these claims. In several cases, victims were last seen alive in police custody. 

FAES, a special police force created in 2017 to combat drug trafficking and criminal organizations, replaced the OLPs in security operations. FAES officials have committed egregious violations, including killings and torture, with impunity in low-income communities that no longer support Nicolás Maduro. OHCHR reported that “authorities may be using FAES and other security forces as an instrument to instill fear in the population and to maintain social control.”   

Impunity for Abuses
Venezuelan authorities reported that, as of June 2019, 44 people were detained and 33 arrest warrants were issued for people allegedly responsible for killings during demonstrations in 2017 and 2019. Authorities claim five FAES agents were convicted of attempted murder and other crimes for events occurred in 2018, and that another 388 FAES agents were under investigation for alleged crimes committed in 2017 and 2019.

Impunity for human rights abuses, however, remains the norm. OHCHR reported in July 2019 that factors contributing to impunity include “lack of cooperation by security and armed forces with investigations,” “the tampering with crime scenes” by security forces, and de facto immunity of senior officials, and lack of judicial independence.

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/venezuela



Venezuela....What does this have to do with the topic???

Huh Huh Huh


venezuela is your socialist utopia.

AOC is a huge supporter


I am not a supporter of Venezuela, Socialism or AOC (Any American politician for that matter)....What does Venezuela have to do with the topic???

Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #82 - Mar 13th, 2023 at 4:42pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 3:12pm:
venezuela is your socialist utopia.


I don't think Venezuela is anyone's "Socialist utopia" except for a few lunatic Right-wingers like yourself, Aqua.   My Socialist utopia is Australia in the 1970s when Gough was PM.   Smiley
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Reply #83 - Mar 13th, 2023 at 5:05pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 4:42pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 3:12pm:
venezuela is your socialist utopia.


I don't think Venezuela is anyone's "Socialist utopia" except for few lunatic Right-wingers like yourself, Aqua.   My Socialist utopia is Australia in the 1970s when Gough was PM.   Smiley



The Loans affair, also called the Khemlani affair, was a political scandal involving the Whitlam government of Australia in 1975 in which it was accused of attempting to borrow money from the Middle East by the agency of the Pakistani banker Tirath Khemlani (17 September 1920 — 19 May 1991) and thus bypass the standard procedures of the Australian Treasury and violate the Australian Constitution.

Minerals and Energy Minister Rex Connor and Treasurer and Deputy Prime Minister Jim Cairns misled Parliament and were forced from the Whitlam Cabinet over the affair. This was a key precursor to the 1975 Australian constitutional crisis, which led to the dismissal of the government in 1975.[1]


if it was trump, you'd want him jailed
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Reply #84 - Mar 13th, 2023 at 5:18pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 4:42pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 3:12pm:
venezuela is your socialist utopia.


I don't think Venezuela is anyone's "Socialist utopia" except for few lunatic Right-wingers like yourself, Aqua.   My Socialist utopia is Australia in the 1970s when Gough was PM.   Smiley

See. You are an American suckjob! Specifically a Democrat American suckjob!
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Reply #85 - Mar 13th, 2023 at 5:23pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 5:05pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 4:42pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 3:12pm:
venezuela is your socialist utopia.


I don't think Venezuela is anyone's "Socialist utopia" except for few lunatic Right-wingers like yourself, Aqua.   My Socialist utopia is Australia in the 1970s when Gough was PM.   Smiley




The Loans affair, also called the Khemlani affair, was a political scandal involving the Whitlam government of Australia in 1975 in which it was accused of attempting to borrow money from the Middle East by the agency of the Pakistani banker Tirath Khemlani (17 September 1920 — 19 May 1991) and thus bypass the standard procedures of the Australian Treasury and violate the Australian Constitution.

Minerals and Energy Minister Rex Connor and Treasurer and Deputy Prime Minister Jim Cairns misled Parliament and were forced from the Whitlam Cabinet over the affair. This was a key precursor to the 1975 Australian constitutional crisis, which led to the dismissal of the government in 1975.[1]


if it was trump, you'd want him jailed
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They were going to build Infrastructure and ultimately make Australia a lot wealthier. It was stupid and they could have been prosecuted had they done it.

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People should have gone to Jail over this one. The Drunk GG for a start and the opposition leader that he was conspiring with.

Australia's only successful insurrection.
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Reply #86 - Mar 13th, 2023 at 5:31pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 3:12pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 3:06pm:
Boris wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 2:32pm:
The Government of Venezuela went door to door collecting all guns and now murders its own people.

You must love that

Police and security forces have killed nearly 18,000 people in Venezuela in instances of alleged “resistance to authority” since 2016. Interior Minister Néstor Reverol reported in December 2017 that there were 5,995 such cases in 2016 and 4,998 in 2017. Venezuelan security forces killed nearly 7,000 people in incidents they claimed were cases of “resistance to authority” in 2018 and the first five months of 2019, according to official figures cited by the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR).

Nobody has yet compiled detailed information as to how many of these killings by security forces have been extrajudicial executions, but OHCHR concluded that “many” may constitute extrajudicial killings. Human Rights Watch documented several such killings in 2019.

Between 2015 and 2017, Venezuelan security forces swept through low-income communities during what was known as the “Operation to Liberate and Protect the People” (Operación de Liberación y Protección del Pueblo, OLP). Participating security forces included the Bolivarian National Guard, the Bolivarian National Police (PNB), the Bolivarian National Intelligence Service (SEBIN), the Scientific, Penal, and Criminal Investigative Police (CICPC), and state police.

These raids resulted in widespread allegations of violations such as extrajudicial killings, mass arbitrary detentions, mistreatment of detainees, forced evictions, destruction of homes, and arbitrary deportations. In November 2017, Venezuela’s then-attorney general said security forces had killed more than 500 people during OLP raids. Government officials repeatedly said the OLP victims were armed criminals who had died during “confrontations.” In many cases, witnesses or families of victims challenged these claims. In several cases, victims were last seen alive in police custody. 

FAES, a special police force created in 2017 to combat drug trafficking and criminal organizations, replaced the OLPs in security operations. FAES officials have committed egregious violations, including killings and torture, with impunity in low-income communities that no longer support Nicolás Maduro. OHCHR reported that “authorities may be using FAES and other security forces as an instrument to instill fear in the population and to maintain social control.”   

Impunity for Abuses
Venezuelan authorities reported that, as of June 2019, 44 people were detained and 33 arrest warrants were issued for people allegedly responsible for killings during demonstrations in 2017 and 2019. Authorities claim five FAES agents were convicted of attempted murder and other crimes for events occurred in 2018, and that another 388 FAES agents were under investigation for alleged crimes committed in 2017 and 2019.

Impunity for human rights abuses, however, remains the norm. OHCHR reported in July 2019 that factors contributing to impunity include “lack of cooperation by security and armed forces with investigations,” “the tampering with crime scenes” by security forces, and de facto immunity of senior officials, and lack of judicial independence.

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/venezuela



Venezuela....What does this have to do with the topic???

Huh Huh Huh


venezuela is your socialist utopia.

AOC is a huge supporter


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AOC is a huge supporter


That was always a huge right wing lie. The only thing that AOC supported was the right of Venezuela to select their own government without US intervention.
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Reply #87 - Mar 13th, 2023 at 6:04pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 5:05pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 4:42pm:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 13th, 2023 at 3:12pm:
venezuela is your socialist utopia.


I don't think Venezuela is anyone's "Socialist utopia" except for few lunatic Right-wingers like yourself, Aqua.   My Socialist utopia is Australia in the 1970s when Gough was PM.   Smiley



The Loans affair, also called the Khemlani affair, was a political scandal involving the Whitlam government of Australia in 1975 in which it was accused of attempting to borrow money from the Middle East by the agency of the Pakistani banker Tirath Khemlani (17 September 1920 — 19 May 1991) and thus bypass the standard procedures of the Australian Treasury and violate the Australian Constitution.

Minerals and Energy Minister Rex Connor and Treasurer and Deputy Prime Minister Jim Cairns misled Parliament and were forced from the Whitlam Cabinet over the affair. This was a key precursor to the 1975 Australian constitutional crisis, which led to the dismissal of the government in 1975.[1]

if it was trump, you'd want him jailed
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Of course you focus on the outcromes rather than the process that created them, hey, Aqua?  You fail to mention Joh's nominating a non-ALP Senator to replace Vince Gair.  You fail to mention the illegal act of dismissal perpetrated by Kerr and Fraser. Gough commanded the House and the House is what determines is Government.  Kerr and Fraser overturned that principle.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #88 - Mar 14th, 2023 at 6:18am
 
The point is - the 2nd Amendment is there because the British took guns off the Americans so they could easier be ruled and killed before the War of Independence.

The British did that to their own people and the Americans seceded and became a new Nation.

The 2nd Amendment is there to guarantee that Tyrannical Governments cannot impose Tyranny on its people.

The first thing Tyrants do is disarm the people so they can easily be ruled and killed - Venezuela is only one of a long list of Tyrannical Governments in History who have done this - Nazi Germany is another.

Guns are power in the hands of the people. Without guns people are slaves. With guns people are Citizens who will not stand for Tyranny.

When you have the case that 800 people a day die in the USA from eating Junk Food and 35 die a day from guns, and Leftist Tyrants want to disarm people to make them powerless but let them fee MacDonald's Hamburgers and Coke to the kiddies.

I trust a Citizen with a gun before I trust a politician with power.

History bears that out.
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Reply #89 - Mar 14th, 2023 at 11:52am
 
Australia and Australians are not disarmed, Matty.  There are now more firearms in private possession than there were before the Port Arthur massacre.   Australians have the right to self-defence still.  They simply cannon possess a firearm for that purpose.  Several Australians have successfully used their firearms for self-defence when they feared their or their loved ones' lives were in danger.  Firearms are not central to Australians' society and freedom.  We hold our government in contempt ordinarily.  We do not fear our government, we basically for most things ignore it.  We rank higher than the US in most scales of "Freedom", just as New Zealand does.  We would all be much better off if you pissed off to the US where you can live the lie you want to.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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