Australian Politics Forum - More from JM's tripe -IPCC

UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 24622 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: More from JM's tripe -IPCC Reply #75 - Apr 27^th, 2023 at 10:14pm lee wrote on Apr 27^th, 2023 at 6:20pm: All science relies on definitions. You can't just choose a metric that you want. That misses my point completely.
Back to top	At this stage... IP Logged

lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17336 Gender:	Re: More from JM's tripe -IPCC Reply #76 - Apr 28^th, 2023 at 12:21pm UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 27^th, 2023 at 10:14pm: That misses my point completely. Nope. BoM, NOAA etc are supposed to be scientists. It is their definition. You can, make up your own definition if you like, with the parameters you like. It will only be a definition with meaning to you, not others.
Back to top	IP Logged

UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 24622 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: More from JM's tripe -IPCC Reply #77 - Apr 28^th, 2023 at 4:07pm So, basically, I am ALSO right.
Back to top	At this stage... IP Logged

lee

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 17336
Gender: male

Re: More from JM's tripe -IPCC
Reply #78 - Apr 28^th, 2023 at 5:56pm

https://www.eumetsat.int/tropospheric-warming-and-stratospheric-cooling-21st-cen...

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 28^th, 2023 at 4:31pm:

lee is going to post a “refutation” of this paper? I can’t wait to see what that idiot comes up with! LOL!

There is nothing to refute. They mention GHG's plural. They don't say if it is increased water vapour (as postulated by CO2 theory) or CO2 itself. Roll Eyes

Back to top

IP Logged

lee

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 17336
Gender: male

Re: More from JM's tripe -IPCC
Reply #79 - Apr 28^th, 2023 at 6:53pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 28^th, 2023 at 4:31pm:

It is SO nice I don’t have to respond to his idiocy.

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 28^th, 2023 at 5:59pm:

It seems the paper I quoted here was too sciency for poor old lee. Wink

Water vapor gets a mention you old fraud! Grin

Poor JM couldn't help himself. The paper doesn't distinguish between GHG's. Perhaps he confused CDR (CO2 Removal) with CDR (Climate Data Retrieval) Roll Eyes

So sad to see him denying CO2 theory. Grin

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 28^th, 2023 at 4:17pm:

In the tropics, since at least 2001 (when new techniques permit more robust quantification), the upper troposphere has warmed faster than the near-surface (medium confidence). There is medium confidence that most CMIP5 and CMIP6 models overestimate the observed warming in the upper tropical troposphere .

So medium confidence that they are right and that CMIP5 and CMIP6 run hot. Grin

Back to top

« Last Edit: Apr 28^th, 2023 at 7:03pm by lee »

IP Logged

lee

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 17336
Gender: male

Re: More from JM's tripe -IPCC
Reply #80 - Apr 30^th, 2023 at 1:18pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 6:37am:

And lee mixes up observations with model output.

Nope. According to CO2 theory water vapour has already increased by 7%.

"(The United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Sixth Assessment Report states total atmospheric water vapor is increasing 1 to 2% per decade.) For every degree Celsius that Earth’s atmospheric temperature rises, the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere can increase by about 7%, according to the laws of thermodynamics."

https://climate.nasa.gov/explore/ask-nasa-climate/3143/steamy-relationships-how-...

So as NASA must agree with the IPCC, else they wouldn't report it, we can see increased water vapour. Roll Eyes

The responders are purely looking at delay in the readings due to the prismatic effect. That delay occurs for ALL GHG's.

No models here. TPW fro m satellites. Or do you only believe them when it suits? Roll Eyes

Also there is nothing in the actual paper on instrument accuracy.

Back to top

IP Logged

lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17336 Gender:	Re: More from JM's tripe -IPCC Reply #81 - Apr 30^th, 2023 at 2:52pm UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 1:26pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 6:37am: And lee mixes up observations with model output. Are you and lee banned from each other's board? I am banned. He doesn't like his hypotheses questioned.
Back to top	IP Logged

lee

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 17336
Gender: male

Re: More from JM's tripe -IPCC
Reply #82 - Apr 30^th, 2023 at 4:12pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 2:59pm:

After I realised lee was arguing the same stupid point we had already argued three times I banned him from here. lee cannot abide change happening and AGW is change.

Climate is change whether it is AGW or not. He cannot abide a differing view on how good (or bad) any AGW is. He only sees bad. Posts from the Guardian instead of papers. Mis-attributes stuff to AGW.

Back to top

IP Logged

Bobby.

Moderator

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 103201
Melbourne
Gender: male

Re: More from JM's tripe -IPCC
Reply #83 - Apr 30^th, 2023 at 4:17pm

lee wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 2:52pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 1:26pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 30^th, 2023 at 6:37am:

And lee mixes up observations with model output.

Are you and lee banned from each other's board?

I am banned. He doesn't like his hypotheses questioned. Roll Eyes

It's better to keep Environment topics here not
at Cats, Critters and Dicks.

Back to top

IP Logged

Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103201 Melbourne Gender:	Re: More from JM's tripe -IPCC Reply #84 - Apr 30^th, 2023 at 4:59pm
Back to top	IP Logged

UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 24622 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: More from JM's tripe -IPCC Reply #85 - May 1^st, 2023 at 9:01pm If Monk is still banned, the ban should be lifted. I have a kind of obsessive compulsion about keeping environmental topics in their forum.
Back to top	At this stage... IP Logged

lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17336 Gender:	Re: More from JM's tripe -IPCC Reply #86 - May 2^nd, 2023 at 5:02pm You are bitching to the wrong person. " Re: Rules and banned members. Reply #9 - Apr 14th, 2023 at 5:49pm Monk, you are now banned for 1 week from the environment MRB. You can return on the 22nd of April 2023. PMs sent to mods and you. You were given ample warnings. "
Back to top	IP Logged

UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 24622 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: More from JM's tripe -IPCC Reply #87 - May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:29pm Not bitching to anyone. I just figure that the issue could be resolved. But, since you guys seem more interesting doing the "not talking to you" in your own forums, I suppose this is the best course of action.
Back to top	At this stage... IP Logged

lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17336 Gender:	Re: More from JM's tripe -IPCC Reply #88 - May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:33pm I would but he would impose a total ban for me posting on his thread.
Back to top	IP Logged

Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103201 Melbourne Gender:	Re: More from JM's tripe -IPCC Reply #89 - May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:38pm lee wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 6:33pm: I would but he would impose a total ban for me posting on his thread. Monk banned you permanently - me too: Quote: Re: Board bans Reply #12 - Apr 17th, 2023 at 7:13am Quote Bans at this time: 1. Permanent bans lee Gordon BaronOfRort Booby
Back to top	IP Logged