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Re: WOKE - MARXISM INCOGNITO
Reply #15 - Apr 20^th, 2023 at 12:08pm

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 11:50am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 11:45am:

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 11:41am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 9:15am:

Ajax wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 9:08am:

The comparison is brilliant imo.

Many examples are given.

To get the point across.

Didn't see it and very boring not going to watch it again. To me the whole narrative relied on the strawman at the front. without the base it falls over like a house of cards.

Doubt that he or most viewers would recognise a marxist if they tripped over one.

What was that strawman at the beginning, duckwit? Are you able to say?

Reply 1.

It is all based on a faulty definition of Equity. Without it the argument falls apart badly.

Quote:

Didn't see it

Looks confusing when I re read it. I did see the clip but didn't see what the previous post said was there.

What is the correct definition of Equity?
Why is his definition faulty?

This is a definition for equity it can be put several ways with similar meaning.

Equity: the quality of being fair and impartial.
"equity of treatment"

This is what JL said:

Equity - A administered political economy in which shares are adjusted so that bla bla bla equally.

What JL has done is to present a rather odd definition of a system for

Social equity

. Probably a misrepresentation.

Here is a more accurate definition for social equity:

Quote:

The fair, just and equitable management of all institutions serving the public directly or by contract; and the fair and equitable distribution of public services, and implementation of public policy; and the commitment to promote fairness, justice and equity in the formation of public policy.

He basically made up his own definition of equity and got it wrong or was not talking about equity at all (who knows). This was the building block that his argument was built on. You know what happens to the house when the foundations crumble.

Quote:

The fair, just and equitable management of all institutions serving the public directly or by contract; and the fair and equitable distribution of public services, and implementation of public policy; and the commitment to promote fairness, justice and equity in the formation of public policy.

JL is arguing that this is Marxism ?

Do you agree that being fair just and equitable = Marxism ? When you correct JL's errors this is what you are left with.

Being a Groucho Marxist I cannot say that I agree with him.

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Reply #17 - Apr 20^th, 2023 at 2:42pm

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 12:08pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 11:50am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 11:45am:

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 11:41am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 9:15am:

Ajax wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 9:08am:

The comparison is brilliant imo.

Many examples are given.

To get the point across.

Didn't see it and very boring not going to watch it again. To me the whole narrative relied on the strawman at the front. without the base it falls over like a house of cards.

Doubt that he or most viewers would recognise a marxist if they tripped over one.

What was that strawman at the beginning, duckwit? Are you able to say?

Reply 1.

It is all based on a faulty definition of Equity. Without it the argument falls apart badly.

Quote:

Didn't see it

Looks confusing when I re read it. I did see the clip but didn't see what the previous post said was there.

What is the correct definition of Equity?
Why is his definition faulty?

This is a definition for equity it can be put several ways with similar meaning.

Equity: the quality of being fair and impartial.
"equity of treatment"

This is what JL said:

Equity - A administered political economy in which shares are adjusted so that bla bla bla equally.

What JL has done is to present a rather odd definition of a system for

Social equity

. Probably a misrepresentation.

Here is a more accurate definition for social equity:

Quote:

The fair, just and equitable management of all institutions serving the public directly or by contract; and the fair and equitable distribution of public services, and implementation of public policy; and the commitment to promote fairness, justice and equity in the formation of public policy.

He basically made up his own definition of equity and got it wrong or was not talking about equity at all (who knows). This was the building block that his argument was built on. You know what happens to the house when the foundations crumble.

Quote:

The fair, just and equitable management of all institutions serving the public directly or by contract; and the fair and equitable distribution of public services, and implementation of public policy; and the commitment to promote fairness, justice and equity in the formation of public policy.

JL is arguing that this is Marxism ?

Do you agree that being fair just and equitable = Marxism ? When you correct JL's errors this is what you are left with.

Being a Groucho Marxist I cannot say that I agree with him.

So the definition of equity is to be equitable.

Good one.

You quoted JL as saying: "Equity - A administered political economy in which shares are adjusted so that bla bla bla equally."

So you didn't understand him, don't remember what he said - but since he didnt use you "correct" definition of equity = being equitable, he was talking strawman and so you excused yourself from listening, understanding - but not from dismissing.

Very duckbrained, very you. Thick. Lamo.

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Reply #18 - Apr 20^th, 2023 at 3:04pm

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 2:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 12:08pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 11:50am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 11:45am:

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 11:41am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 9:15am:

Ajax wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 9:08am:

The comparison is brilliant imo.

Many examples are given.

To get the point across.

Didn't see it and very boring not going to watch it again. To me the whole narrative relied on the strawman at the front. without the base it falls over like a house of cards.

Doubt that he or most viewers would recognise a marxist if they tripped over one.

What was that strawman at the beginning, duckwit? Are you able to say?

Reply 1.

It is all based on a faulty definition of Equity. Without it the argument falls apart badly.

Quote:

Didn't see it

Looks confusing when I re read it. I did see the clip but didn't see what the previous post said was there.

What is the correct definition of Equity?
Why is his definition faulty?

This is a definition for equity it can be put several ways with similar meaning.

Equity: the quality of being fair and impartial.
"equity of treatment"

This is what JL said:

Equity - A administered political economy in which shares are adjusted so that bla bla bla equally.

What JL has done is to present a rather odd definition of a system for

Social equity

. Probably a misrepresentation.

Here is a more accurate definition for social equity:

Quote:

The fair, just and equitable management of all institutions serving the public directly or by contract; and the fair and equitable distribution of public services, and implementation of public policy; and the commitment to promote fairness, justice and equity in the formation of public policy.

He basically made up his own definition of equity and got it wrong or was not talking about equity at all (who knows). This was the building block that his argument was built on. You know what happens to the house when the foundations crumble.

Quote:

The fair, just and equitable management of all institutions serving the public directly or by contract; and the fair and equitable distribution of public services, and implementation of public policy; and the commitment to promote fairness, justice and equity in the formation of public policy.

JL is arguing that this is Marxism ?

Do you agree that being fair just and equitable = Marxism ? When you correct JL's errors this is what you are left with.

Being a Groucho Marxist I cannot say that I agree with him.

So the definition of equity is to be equitable.

Good one.

You quoted JL as saying: "Equity - A administered political economy in which shares are adjusted so that bla bla bla equally."

So you didn't understand him, don't remember what he said - but since he didnt use you "correct" definition of equity = being equitable, he was talking strawman and so you excused yourself from listening, understanding - but not from dismissing.

Very duckbrained, very you. Thick. Lamo.

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You quoted JL as saying:

I quoted exactly what he said to the point where I stopped.

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So you didn't understand him,

If I didn't understand how did I explain what he thought he said and what his error was?

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he didnt use you "correct" definition of equity

It wasn't an incorrect definition it was a poor definition of a completely different and unrelated concept.

I don't think you can dig your way out of this one with word soup and insults.

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Reply #19 - Apr 20^th, 2023 at 3:34pm

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 3:04pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 2:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 12:08pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 11:50am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 11:45am:

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 11:41am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 9:15am:

Ajax wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 9:08am:

The comparison is brilliant imo.

Many examples are given.

To get the point across.

Didn't see it and very boring not going to watch it again. To me the whole narrative relied on the strawman at the front. without the base it falls over like a house of cards.

Doubt that he or most viewers would recognise a marxist if they tripped over one.

What was that strawman at the beginning, duckwit? Are you able to say?

Reply 1.

It is all based on a faulty definition of Equity. Without it the argument falls apart badly.

Quote:

Didn't see it

Looks confusing when I re read it. I did see the clip but didn't see what the previous post said was there.

What is the correct definition of Equity?
Why is his definition faulty?

This is a definition for equity it can be put several ways with similar meaning.

Equity: the quality of being fair and impartial.
"equity of treatment"

This is what JL said:

Equity - A administered political economy in which shares are adjusted so that bla bla bla equally.

What JL has done is to present a rather odd definition of a system for

Social equity

. Probably a misrepresentation.

Here is a more accurate definition for social equity:

Quote:

The fair, just and equitable management of all institutions serving the public directly or by contract; and the fair and equitable distribution of public services, and implementation of public policy; and the commitment to promote fairness, justice and equity in the formation of public policy.

He basically made up his own definition of equity and got it wrong or was not talking about equity at all (who knows). This was the building block that his argument was built on. You know what happens to the house when the foundations crumble.

Quote:

The fair, just and equitable management of all institutions serving the public directly or by contract; and the fair and equitable distribution of public services, and implementation of public policy; and the commitment to promote fairness, justice and equity in the formation of public policy.

JL is arguing that this is Marxism ?

Do you agree that being fair just and equitable = Marxism ? When you correct JL's errors this is what you are left with.

Being a Groucho Marxist I cannot say that I agree with him.

So the definition of equity is to be equitable.

Good one.

You quoted JL as saying: "Equity - A administered political economy in which shares are adjusted so that bla bla bla equally."

So you didn't understand him, don't remember what he said - but since he didnt use you "correct" definition of equity = being equitable, he was talking strawman and so you excused yourself from listening, understanding - but not from dismissing.

Very duckbrained, very you. Thick. Lamo.

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You quoted JL as saying:

I quoted exactly what he said to the point where I stopped.

Quote:

So you didn't understand him,

If I didn't understand how did I explain what he thought he said and what his error was?

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he didnt use you "correct" definition of equity

It wasn't an incorrect definition it was a poor definition of a completely different and unrelated concept.

I don't think you can dig your way out of this one with word soup and insults.

You misquoted him ("bla bla bla") because you didn't understand him. He referenced H George Frederickson who was a pioneer in equity theories in public administration.
You attributed to JL YOUR error of not understanding him or Frederickson because that is the lazy, lame ducky thing to do.

It was not a different and unrelated concept of equity for what JL was talking about. But since you dont understand what he is talking about, you now say that he should have talked about something ELSE, some other use of equity that you imagine you understand but of course you don't.

Lame duckbrain stands.

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Reply #20 - Apr 20^th, 2023 at 4:00pm

Here's Lindsay on the topic of Woke at the Oxford Union. Watch out, he opens with a reference to Habermas. That should throw most of the wokerati and duckeraty.

Kisin followed him. Very good

Others arguing against wokeism were Toby Young and Vedika Rastogi.

Arguing FOR woke were:

Alex Jackson
https://youtu.be/Vd_vT95qT9g
Tommy Nguyen
https://youtu.be/RBnHgRgUR2I
Benjamin Butterworth
https://youtu.be/aH1C6U9M82s
Yasmina Benojt
https://youtu.be/Q6263w4iJvA

All link on the one page:
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGXYDmRq-VnHe9QzWLHZabadZSISIh-MR

By all accounts, wokery is the continuation of Soviet man by other (but similar) means.

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Reply #21 - Apr 20^th, 2023 at 5:23pm

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 3:34pm:

You misquoted him ("bla bla bla") because you didn't understand him. He referenced H George Frederickson who was a pioneer in equity theories in public administration.
You attributed to JL YOUR error of not understanding him or Frederickson because that is the lazy, lame ducky thing to do.

It was not a different and unrelated concept of equity for what JL was talking about. But since you dont understand what he is talking about, you now say that he should have talked about something ELSE, some other use of equity that you imagine you understand but of course you don't.

Lame duckbrain stands.

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unrelated concept of equity

You are doing the same thing, you keep saying equity but you are both talking about "social equity" - it isn't the same thing. It has a different definition.

Yes H George Frederickson had some idea on "social equity". He defined it poorly.

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That should throw most of the wokerati and duckeraty.

He said he was going to define equity - he didn't he was commenting on what Tom said about equity. We don't know what Tom said but assuming that Tom had referred to equity and not "social equity" it is almost certain that Tom was not talking about the same subject as James.

No matter how you look at it James defined the word equity and got it wrong. He went on to base his argument on this failure.

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You misquoted him ("bla bla bla")

The bla bla bla was just to shortcut to typing all the words. I assumed that you would know what they were. My bad there for assuming some intelligence at your end.

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Reply #22 - Apr 20^th, 2023 at 8:12pm

Dnarever wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 5:23pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 3:34pm:

You misquoted him ("bla bla bla") because you didn't understand him. He referenced H George Frederickson who was a pioneer in equity theories in public administration.
You attributed to JL YOUR error of not understanding him or Frederickson because that is the lazy, lame ducky thing to do.

It was not a different and unrelated concept of equity for what JL was talking about. But since you dont understand what he is talking about, you now say that he should have talked about something ELSE, some other use of equity that you imagine you understand but of course you don't.

Lame duckbrain stands.

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unrelated concept of equity

You are doing the same thing, you keep saying equity but you are both talking about "social equity" - it isn't the same thing. It has a different definition.

Yes H George Frederickson had some idea on "social equity". He defined it poorly.

Quote:

That should throw most of the wokerati and duckeraty.

He said he was going to define equity - he didn't he was commenting on what Tom said about equity. We don't know what Tom said but assuming that Tom had referred to equity and not "social equity" it is almost certain that Tom was not talking about the same subject as James.

No matter how you look at it James defined the word equity and got it wrong. He went on to base his argument on this failure.

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You misquoted him ("bla bla bla")

The bla bla bla was just to shortcut to typing all the words. I assumed that you would know what they were. My bad there for assuming some intelligence at your end.

We know what Tom said - I posted his segment.
"The bla bla bla was just to shortcut to typing all the words" - idiotic. You do not understand anything and try, moronically, to pass it off as "I assumed that you would know what they were. My bad there for assuming some intelligence at your end. "

You are thick, ignorant, lost AND dishonest. Not unusual for duckwit.i

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Reply #23 - Apr 21^st, 2023 at 2:40pm

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 11:49am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 2:32pm:

... and ANOTHER one
to add too the LONG list of uneducated right-wing morons
who've never thought to consult Mr Oxford on the correct definition of the word "woke" before putting it to print

SkyTV being the original, uneducated, right-wing morons

.

When progs like you, mothra etc say 'uneducated' you mean un-indoctrinated or brain washed to the degree you are. To your doctrinaire "minds" (if that's the word I want) disagreement or a different view and value system is simply 'uneducated'.

Your proggy forebears in the Soviet would have said 'false consciousness' for the same thing. For you, having done the three year Bachelor of Indictrination course at uni, you add a little vanity and preening, implying that you, in contrast, are educated.
Totally laughable.

When you've located YOUR copy of Mr Dictionary,
you might want to look up

"PROGRESS"

,
as practiced by us

"PROGRESSIVES"

Or perhaps you're content to remain a

"REGRESSIVE"

?

..

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Reply #24 - Apr 21^st, 2023 at 3:28pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 21^st, 2023 at 2:40pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 11:49am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 2:32pm:

... and ANOTHER one
to add too the LONG list of uneducated right-wing morons
who've never thought to consult Mr Oxford on the correct definition of the word "woke" before putting it to print

SkyTV being the original, uneducated, right-wing morons

.

When progs like you, mothra etc say 'uneducated' you mean un-indoctrinated or brain washed to the degree you are. To your doctrinaire "minds" (if that's the word I want) disagreement or a different view and value system is simply 'uneducated'.

Your proggy forebears in the Soviet would have said 'false consciousness' for the same thing. For you, having done the three year Bachelor of Indictrination course at uni, you add a little vanity and preening, implying that you, in contrast, are educated.
Totally laughable.

When you've located YOUR copy of Mr Dictionary,
you might want to look up

"PROGRESS"

,
as practiced by us

"PROGRESSIVES"

Or perhaps you're content to remain a

"REGRESSIVE"

?

..

Where are you progressing TO? How will you know you have arrived?

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Reply #25 - Apr 21^st, 2023 at 10:02pm

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 11:49am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 2:32pm:

... and ANOTHER one
to add too the LONG list of uneducated right-wing morons
who've never thought to consult Mr Oxford on the correct definition of the word "woke" before putting it to print

SkyTV being the original, uneducated, right-wing morons

.

For you, having done the three year Bachelor of Indictrination course at uni, you add a little vanity and preening, implying that you, in contrast, are educated.

For starters, I went straight into the workforce, on completing Year 12 of my formal education.
I had no tertiary or university education.
But I never considered or allowed my leaving school to be the end of my broader education experience.
Life - from cradle to grave - is an education

I've learned never to appropriate words from the English language - and give them a new definition to suit my political agenda.

woke

well-informed, up-to-date, alert to racial or social discrimination and injustice.

progressive

in favour of new ideas, modern methods and change

Opposite of retrogressive

(of an action) making a situation worse or returning to how something was in the past.

liberal

willing to understand and respect other people’s behaviour, opinions, etc., especially when they are different from your own; believing people should be able to choose how they behave

Oxford English Dictionary

So if anyone wants to compliment me - as a
woke, liberal, progressive
- I'd be more than flattered

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Reply #26 - Apr 21^st, 2023 at 10:24pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 21^st, 2023 at 10:02pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 11:49am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 2:32pm:

... and ANOTHER one
to add too the LONG list of uneducated right-wing morons
who've never thought to consult Mr Oxford on the correct definition of the word "woke" before putting it to print

SkyTV being the original, uneducated, right-wing morons

.

For you, having done the three year Bachelor of Indictrination course at uni, you add a little vanity and preening, implying that you, in contrast, are educated.

For starters, I went straight into the workforce, on completing Year 12 of my formal education.
I had no tertiary or university education.
But I never considered or allowed my leaving school to be the end of my broader education experience.
Life - from cradle to grave - is an education

I've learned never to appropriate words from the English language - and give them a new definition to suit my political agenda.

woke

well-informed, up-to-date, alert to racial or social discrimination and injustice.

progressive

in favour of new ideas, modern methods and change

Opposite of retrogressive

(of an action) making a situation worse or returning to how something was in the past.

liberal

willing to understand and respect other people’s behaviour, opinions, etc., especially when they are different from your own; believing people should be able to choose how they behave

Oxford English Dictionary
So if anyone wants to compliment me - as a
woke, liberal, progressive
- I'd be more than flattered

So gay.

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Reply #27 - Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 4:30pm

Frank wrote on Apr 21^st, 2023 at 10:24pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 21^st, 2023 at 10:02pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 11:49am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 2:32pm:

... and ANOTHER one
to add too the LONG list of uneducated right-wing morons
who've never thought to consult Mr Oxford on the correct definition of the word "woke" before putting it to print

SkyTV being the original, uneducated, right-wing morons

.

For you, having done the three year Bachelor of Indictrination course at uni, you add a little vanity and preening, implying that you, in contrast, are educated.

For starters, I went straight into the workforce, on completing Year 12 of my formal education.
I had no tertiary or university education.
But I never considered or allowed my leaving school to be the end of my broader education experience.
Life - from cradle to grave - is an education

I've learned never to appropriate words from the English language - and give them a new definition to suit my political agenda.

woke

well-informed, up-to-date, alert to racial or social discrimination and injustice.

progressive

in favour of new ideas, modern methods and change

Opposite of retrogressive

(of an action) making a situation worse or returning to how something was in the past.

liberal

willing to understand and respect other people’s behaviour, opinions, etc., especially when they are different from your own; believing people should be able to choose how they behave

Oxford English Dictionary
So if anyone wants to compliment me - as a
woke, liberal, progressive
- I'd be more than flattered

So gay.

Gay or not, he's right.

But trust you to attempt to conduct an 'argument' from the gutter.

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Reply #28 - Apr 24^th, 2023 at 11:27am

Dnarever wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 9:15am:

Ajax wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 9:08am:

The comparison is brilliant imo.

Many examples are given.

To get the point across.

Didn't see it and very boring not going to watch it again. To me the whole narrative relied on the strawman at the front. without the base it falls over like a house of cards.

Doubt that he or most viewers would recognise a marxist if they tripped over one.

You seem to have missed the point trying to dot the i's and cross the t's.

The world you live in must be perfect or you are an ignorant fool.

They do say that ignorance is bliss.....

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Reply #29 - Apr 24^th, 2023 at 11:30am

Kat wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2023 at 4:30pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 21^st, 2023 at 10:24pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 21^st, 2023 at 10:02pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 20^th, 2023 at 11:49am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 19^th, 2023 at 2:32pm:

... and ANOTHER one
to add too the LONG list of uneducated right-wing morons
who've never thought to consult Mr Oxford on the correct definition of the word "woke" before putting it to print

SkyTV being the original, uneducated, right-wing morons

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For you, having done the three year Bachelor of Indictrination course at uni, you add a little vanity and preening, implying that you, in contrast, are educated.

For starters, I went straight into the workforce, on completing Year 12 of my formal education.
I had no tertiary or university education.
But I never considered or allowed my leaving school to be the end of my broader education experience.
Life - from cradle to grave - is an education

I've learned never to appropriate words from the English language - and give them a new definition to suit my political agenda.

woke

well-informed, up-to-date, alert to racial or social discrimination and injustice.

progressive

in favour of new ideas, modern methods and change

Opposite of retrogressive

(of an action) making a situation worse or returning to how something was in the past.

liberal

willing to understand and respect other people’s behaviour, opinions, etc., especially when they are different from your own; believing people should be able to choose how they behave

Oxford English Dictionary
So if anyone wants to compliment me - as a
woke, liberal, progressive
- I'd be more than flattered

So gay.

Gay or not, he's right.

But trust you to attempt to conduct an 'argument' from the gutter.

WOKE is even strangling the gays LOL.

"Trans Ideology is the New Homophobia" - Arielle Scarcella

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