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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #105 - Apr 26^th, 2023 at 9:33pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 26^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2023 at 9:03pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 26^th, 2023 at 8:22pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2023 at 8:14pm:

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More to the point, can you explain how to rid the black communities of it?

Rid them of what, TGD?

I'll give you three guesses, before I pronounce on your IQ....

Go on TGD. Say it. You know you want to.

What I want is for you to explain how to get rid of it.
My last offer of a debate on the matter, and for you to show some spine.

How to get rid of lice? They have stuff for that.

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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #106 - Apr 26^th, 2023 at 9:38pm

Frank wrote on Apr 26^th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

Don't be like BBwian, turd, karnal et all and talk out if all four corners of your beak, parrot. But of course you will be because you are.

Interestingly, there are some powerful voices in the nation who think 'the voice' WILL assist in closing the gap.

I'm actually indifferent , I'll wait to see how the debate progresses. (Burnie still thinks it will win; I have my doubts)

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You acknowledged repeatedly that the Voice will do nothing to close the gap. But here you are now, grimacing idiotically and hinting dishonestly that despite all your pronouncements the Voice might close the gap.

A little secret: I'm wondering if the national debate might open people's eyes to the 'dismal science' as practiced by our current crop of gruesome neoclassical economists, if 'the voice' gets up. (whereas, if the 'voice goes down, will anything change?)

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You are just as dishonest as the other mongs, and just as stupid. No news there. You are all dishonest lying bozos, parrot. Put that on your printed money and calling card.

I hope your honour takes the above explanation into account, before confirming such harsh words....

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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #107 - Apr 26^th, 2023 at 10:21pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 26^th, 2023 at 9:38pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 26^th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

Don't be like BBwian, turd, karnal et all and talk out if all four corners of your beak, parrot. But of course you will be because you are.

Interestingly, there are some powerful voices in the nation who think 'the voice' WILL assist in closing the gap.

I'm actually indifferent , I'll wait to see how the debate progresses. (Burnie still thinks it will win; I have my doubts)

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You acknowledged repeatedly that the Voice will do nothing to close the gap. But here you are now, grimacing idiotically and hinting dishonestly that despite all your pronouncements the Voice might close the gap.

A little secret: I'm wondering if the national debate might open people's eyes to the 'dismal science' as practiced by our current crop of gruesome neoclassical economists, if 'the voice' gets up. (whereas, if the 'voice goes down, will anything change?)

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You are just as dishonest as the other mongs, and just as stupid. No news there. You are all dishonest lying bozos, parrot. Put that on your printed money and calling card.

I hope your honour takes the above explanation into account, before confirming such harsh words....

You are a spineless opportunistic idiot like the rest of the fkkwits.
There are far too many of you. You infect each other and spawn other idiots. You are contaminating.

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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #108 - Apr 26^th, 2023 at 10:34pm

Frank wrote on Apr 26^th, 2023 at 10:21pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 26^th, 2023 at 9:38pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 26^th, 2023 at 8:35pm:

Don't be like BBwian, turd, karnal et all and talk out if all four corners of your beak, parrot. But of course you will be because you are.

Interestingly, there are some powerful voices in the nation who think 'the voice' WILL assist in closing the gap.

I'm actually indifferent , I'll wait to see how the debate progresses. (Burnie still thinks it will win; I have my doubts)

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You acknowledged repeatedly that the Voice will do nothing to close the gap. But here you are now, grimacing idiotically and hinting dishonestly that despite all your pronouncements the Voice might close the gap.

A little secret: I'm wondering if the national debate might open people's eyes to the 'dismal science' as practiced by our current crop of gruesome neoclassical economists, if 'the voice' gets up. (whereas, if the 'voice goes down, will anything change?)

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You are just as dishonest as the other mongs, and just as stupid. No news there. You are all dishonest lying bozos, parrot. Put that on your printed money and calling card.

I hope your honour takes the above explanation into account, before confirming such harsh words....

You are a spineless opportunistic idiot like the rest of the fkkwits.
There are far too many of you. You infect each other and spawn other idiots. You are contaminating.

Od dear, I see my 'plea' failed...

OK here it is again:

"I'm wondering if the national debate might open people's eyes to the 'dismal science' as practiced by our current crop of gruesome neoclassical economists, if 'the voice' gets up. (whereas, if the 'voice goes down, will anything change?)"

Your gruesome neoclassical economics wil be exposed, one way or the other.

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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #109 - Apr 26^th, 2023 at 10:36pm

Give 'em all a job and flog 'em to work out there.... that's sure to work ..... been tried but a history of failure should never get in the way of a bad idea...

aquascoot has some right ideas - out there given a fair chance the Aboriginal should be a noble person .... but it will take extreme measures to dry them out from the recent history of drunkenness, crime, violence, neglect and abuse.... give them something to aim for.... and I don't mean any more emasculating (ball-removing) handouts of control over national icons and parks to satisfy some ridiculous feeling of guilt on our parts and to feed their riotous behaviour and childish demanding, by unelected jerks in government fat cat jobs... sheilas these days making men's decisions... my dear god.........

NT Fuzz Minister - get out there and arrest one armed with a knife who wants to stab and kill you and your partner, and then wait to be charged by your kind for a righteous killing... get out there and solve the problems rather than put your officers in the meat grinder both ways, you jerk.... Chief Minister - stop babying them when they play up - Jesus Christ - look what that lead to with the trannies and such.... now THEY are imagining cutting women up, you moron! Stop molly-coddling them and treat them as people who need rules.

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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #110 - Apr 26^th, 2023 at 10:46pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Apr 26^th, 2023 at 10:36pm:

Give 'em all a job and flog 'em to work out there....

Sounds gruesome

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.. that's sure to work ..... been tried but a history of failure should never get in the way of a bad idea...

Well failure should be a pointer to success, if you adopt the right policies and stay the course.

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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #112 - Apr 27^th, 2023 at 6:02am

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 26^th, 2023 at 9:21pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Apr 26^th, 2023 at 9:04pm:

This is what I want though - and only $1.8m!

https://www.platinumfighters.com/inventory/1955-douglas-ad-5-skyraider/

A comment on being 'off-topic'?

Unfortunately for you, the coming months will expose - importantly, for the entire nation to see - our current neoclassical/neoliberal orthodoxy's role in maintaining the gap.

Voice or no voice.

No relevance to the voice idea. Go solve the economic structure problems elsewhere without interrupting the canning and caning of this nonsensical voice....

Only $1.8mAu, too.... now how to get it back from Missouri....

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49443 At my desk.	Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen Reply #113 - Jun 26^th, 2023 at 5:35am This is interesting. And they still haven't decided on the change we will be voting on. https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/ng-interactive/2023/jun/15/indigenous-voice-to-parliament-referendum-tracker-how-many-people-support-or-oppose
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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #114 - Jun 26^th, 2023 at 6:41am

turns out i may have been wrong. i assumed the voice would romp in just because people are vaguely pro-abo and don't want to vote against something that would make them feel like they dislike abos, but even with that general sentiment still existing the voice appears to be so retarded and weird still no one wants to support it. maybe it can still win but i'm skeptical. i don't think 'no' is prevailing on the basis of the no campaign's arguments, which are piss weak, but on the fact that the voice is such a vague and retarded concept no one is motivated enough to care about it

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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #115 - Jun 26^th, 2023 at 6:59am

The referendum to enshrine an Indigenous voice to parliament and executive government would fail if a vote were held next weekend, with more voters for the first time opposed to altering the Constitution to achieve it and a majority of states lined up to deliver a “No” vote.

The new blow to the “Yes” campaign comes amid fresh warnings from Anthony Albanese, whose personal approval ratings have also fallen to their lowest level since the election, that a failed referendum would set back the cause of reconciliation.

An exclusive Newspoll conducted for The Australian shows the referendum on a path to possible defeat, with the “Yes” campaign falling short of achieving the double majority test of more than 50 per cent of the national vote and majorities in a majority of states.

The special Newspoll of 2303 voters conducted between June 16 and June 24, coinciding with the referendum bill’s passage through parliament and an intensifying political debate over the remit of the voice, shows the “Yes” vote falling three points to a new low of just 43 per cent.

The “No” vote rose four points to 47 per cent, confirming for the first time that more people are opposed to the Albanese government’s referendum model than those who support it.

Just as critical was the shift in the second key test for a referendum to succeed – a majority in a majority of states – with four of the six states now indicating a “No” vote and just two delivering “Yes” vote majorities.

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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5471 Gender:	Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen Reply #116 - Jun 26^th, 2023 at 7:00am reckon albo is gonna scrap it? or will he double down and keep going in the hopes it can win it may come down to a 50-50 coin flip, not sure given the yes campaigners havent really started to ramp up the propaganda yet
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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 48084 Gender:	Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen Reply #117 - Jun 26^th, 2023 at 7:45am It will be a disaster whichever way it goes since the Voice is essentially divisive and corrosive. It is the opposite if unifying, reconciling. It is calculated to be adversarial, splitting the country no matter the result of the referendum.
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Boris Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4101 Gender:	Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen Reply #118 - Jun 26^th, 2023 at 7:56am It appears Albo will call a Double Dissolution so both Houses will be re-elected and the referendum will be scrapped. The Greens have handed the trigger with the Housing Bill Time will tell. This "Voice" is not uniting Australia and Labor will not answer questions about it.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 42464	Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen Reply #119 - Jun 26^th, 2023 at 2:51pm The chief bullshitter has spoken and is wasting our attention again. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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