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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #135 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:27am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:22am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:02am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 9:46am:

Australians aren’t as stupid and gullible as Albo thinks they are.

What a shocking waste of $365 million. Meantime :

Θ Our aged care sector is running on empty.
Θ Our health care sector is running on empty.
Θ Covid19 is still killing Australians every day - is the pandemic remains unresolved.
Θ Australia is facing rising interest rates and rising inflation rates.
Θ The Reserve Bank Governor which Labor PM Albo appointed is on record for stating more interest rate rises are on the way AND more Australians should be unemployed.

The rising rate of stupidity within the Federal Liebor Party needs to be assessed and addressed post haste.

1. Do you think Dutton has any ideas on how to solve ANY of those issues??

2. edit: #4 is wrong; inflation is falling in Oz, it remains to be seen if Lowe's policies will cause a recession.

1. Μy apologies NotSoGreatOrSane... I must have missed the memo about Dutton sitting in the Prime Minister’s position.

Irrelevant (there is no such memo); the point is YOU have no policies to solve those problems while attacking Albo for his.

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2. Inflation is still 2% above the average/mean.

Indeed it is, but you said it is rising, not falling - which vastly changes the situation facing the RBA.

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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #136 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:34am

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:27am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:22am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:02am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 9:46am:

Australians aren’t as stupid and gullible as Albo thinks they are.

What a shocking waste of $365 million. Meantime :

Θ Our aged care sector is running on empty.
Θ Our health care sector is running on empty.
Θ Covid19 is still killing Australians every day - is the pandemic remains unresolved.
Θ Australia is facing rising interest rates and rising inflation rates.
Θ The Reserve Bank Governor which Labor PM Albo appointed is on record for stating more interest rate rises are on the way AND more Australians should be unemployed.

The rising rate of stupidity within the Federal Liebor Party needs to be assessed and addressed post haste.

1. Do you think Dutton has any ideas on how to solve ANY of those issues??

2. edit: #4 is wrong; inflation is falling in Oz, it remains to be seen if Lowe's policies will cause a recession.

1. Μy apologies NotSoGreatOrSane... I must have missed the memo about Dutton sitting in the Prime Minister’s position.

Irrelevant (there is no such memo); the point is YOU have no policies to solve those problems while attacking Albo for his.

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2. Inflation is still 2% above the average/mean.

Indeed it is, but you said it is rising, not falling - which vastly changes the situation facing the RBA.

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No. YOU are (once again) injecting off topic/irrelevant distracting arguments into this discussion and they’re based on assumptions driven mostly by your peculiar brand of BS.

In fact that’s all you ever contribute on OzPol oh NotSoGreatOrSane. And that’s irrespective of the ID you hide behind.

Edit : Re inflation - I should have originally stated inflation is still HIGH. I stated the word RISING only because I always translate from Modern Greek (my 1st language) to English (my 2nd language).

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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #137 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:34am

Nobody needs to justify attacking an incumbent government for its policies - this is a democracy regardless of how much and how often you Fascists try to alter it to suit yourselves... and the people are rising .... this is but the catalyst.... there is far more to come.

So the RBA wants to raise interest rates again instead of seeking valid answers - who asked them to? Put it to the people in a referendum.

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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #138 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:42am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:34am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:27am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:22am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:02am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 9:46am:

Australians aren’t as stupid and gullible as Albo thinks they are.

What a shocking waste of $365 million. Meantime :

Θ Our aged care sector is running on empty.
Θ Our health care sector is running on empty.
Θ Covid19 is still killing Australians every day - is the pandemic remains unresolved.
Θ Australia is facing rising interest rates and rising inflation rates.
Θ The Reserve Bank Governor which Labor PM Albo appointed is on record for stating more interest rate rises are on the way AND more Australians should be unemployed.

The rising rate of stupidity within the Federal Liebor Party needs to be assessed and addressed post haste.

1. Do you think Dutton has any ideas on how to solve ANY of those issues??

2. edit: #4 is wrong; inflation is falling in Oz, it remains to be seen if Lowe's policies will cause a recession.

1. Μy apologies NotSoGreatOrSane... I must have missed the memo about Dutton sitting in the Prime Minister’s position.

Irrelevant (there is no such memo); the point is YOU have no policies to solve those problems while attacking Albo for his.

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2. Inflation is still 2% above the average/mean.

Indeed it is, but you said it is rising, not falling - which vastly changes the situation facing the RBA.

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No. YOU are )once again) injecting off topic/irrelevant distracting arguments into this discussion and they’re based on assumptions driven mostly by your peculiar brand of BS.

Er.... dear Lisa, YOU listed all those items which you imagined would somehow prove Albo has a monopoly on stupidity. I proved you wrong, and drew attention to your own stupidity as well ...'2 birds with one stone', as they say...

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In fact that’s all you ever contribute on OzPol oh NotSoGreatOrSane. And that’s irrespective of the ID you hide behind.

Refuted above.

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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #139 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:45am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:34am:

Nobody needs to justify attacking an incumbent government for its policies - this is a democracy regardless of how much and how often you Fascists try to alter it to suit yourselves... and the people are rising .... this is but the catalyst.... there is far more to come.

So the RBA wants to raise interest rates again instead of seeking valid answers - who asked them to? Put it to the people in a referendum.

😂🤣😆

Grandpa Grappler - we cant afford the CURRENT referendum which will cost us over $365 million to run. Meanwhile Albo is on record for stating that he has no idea how much The Voice will cost Australia post referendum.

👆 This not only demonstrates inept and reckless financial mismanagement by Albo it also indicates disrespect and disregard for every Australian tax payer. I also find it seriously insulting.

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85375 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen Reply #140 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:45am How does discussing one set of stupidities make that one set a monopoly on stupidity? Reasoning, boy... The voice is going down.... nothing you say in your endless tail chasing will change that.... While you're here:- *What are the causes of the current Indigenous disadvantage?*
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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #141 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:48am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:45am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:34am:

Nobody needs to justify attacking an incumbent government for its policies - this is a democracy regardless of how much and how often you Fascists try to alter it to suit yourselves... and the people are rising .... this is but the catalyst.... there is far more to come.

So the RBA wants to raise interest rates again instead of seeking valid answers - who asked them to? Put it to the people in a referendum.

😂🤣😆

Grandpa Grappler - we cant afford the CURRENT referendum which will cost us over $365 million to run. Albo is on record for stating that he has no idea how much it The Voice will cost Australia post referendum.

👆 This not only demonstrates inept and reckless financial mismanagement by Albo it also indicates disrespect and disregard for every Australian tax payer. I also find it seriously insulting.

The whole thing is seriously insulting from end to end - the insolence of office....

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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #142 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:50am

NotSoGreatOrSane

This is my post 👇

Feel free to respond or ignore.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:34am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:27am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:22am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:02am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 9:46am:

Australians aren’t as stupid and gullible as Albo thinks they are.

What a shocking waste of $365 million. Meantime :

Θ Our aged care sector is running on empty.
Θ Our health care sector is running on empty.
Θ Covid19 is still killing Australians every day - is the pandemic remains unresolved.
Θ Australia is facing rising interest rates and rising inflation rates.
Θ The Reserve Bank Governor which Labor PM Albo appointed is on record for stating more interest rate rises are on the way AND more Australians should be unemployed.

The rising rate of stupidity within the Federal Liebor Party needs to be assessed and addressed post haste.

1. Do you think Dutton has any ideas on how to solve ANY of those issues??

2. edit: #4 is wrong; inflation is falling in Oz, it remains to be seen if Lowe's policies will cause a recession.

1. Μy apologies NotSoGreatOrSane... I must have missed the memo about Dutton sitting in the Prime Minister’s position.

Irrelevant (there is no such memo); the point is YOU have no policies to solve those problems while attacking Albo for his.

Quote:

2. Inflation is still 2% above the average/mean.

Indeed it is, but you said it is rising, not falling - which vastly changes the situation facing the RBA.

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No. YOU are (once again) injecting off topic/irrelevant distracting arguments into this discussion and they’re based on assumptions driven mostly by your peculiar brand of BS.

In fact that’s all you ever contribute on OzPol oh NotSoGreatOrSane. And that’s irrespective of the ID you hide behind.

Edit : Re inflation - I should have originally stated inflation is still HIGH. I stated the word RISING only because I always translate from Modern Greek (my 1st language) to English (my 2nd language).

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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #143 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:53am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:34am:

Nobody needs to justify attacking an incumbent government for its policies - this is a democracy regardless of how much and how often you Fascists try to alter it to suit yourselves...

And your mindless gossip with Fraud-Diver re "people coming to their senses" led simple-minded Lisa into the trap of attempting to prove Albo is brainless owing to all the problems facing Oz at the moment - problems for which she has no solutions.

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So the RBA wants to raise interest rates again instead of seeking valid answers - who asked them to? Put it to the people in a referendum.

Far out - a sensible suggestion from you at last.

Imagine the yes and no case, and the accompanying crash course in economics for the population, as economists who can't agree on anything slug it out....

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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #144 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:58am

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:53am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:34am:

Nobody needs to justify attacking an incumbent government for its policies - this is a democracy regardless of how much and how often you Fascists try to alter it to suit yourselves...

And your mindless gossip with Fraud-Diver re "people coming to their senses" led simple-minded Lisa into the trap of attempting to prove Albo is brainless owing to all the problems facing Oz at the monent - problems for which she had no solutions.

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So the RBA wants to raise interest rates again instead of seeking valid answers - who asked them to? Put it to the people in a referendum.

Far out - a sensible suggestion from you at last.

Imagine the yes and no case, and the accompanying crash course in economics for the population, as economists who can't agree on anything slug it out....

Freediver's word - not mine. I'm sure Lisa can make up her own mind. No need to prove Albo brainless - he does a fine job of that himself. She doesn't have to have solutions - Albo does.

Most people know intuitively when things are not right... no crash course needed - especially given the way you carry on and the reality that no economic theory yet has ever produced a result.

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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #145 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 11:00am

Now then, dividie - while I've got your attention - you still haven't answered:-

What are the causes of the current Indigenous disadvantage?

You started to get there when you said it was their not getting into the modern world..... but again you saw your own trap .... and ran away again.

It's not a hard question.... details and not general statements, please - are you capable of that?

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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #148 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 11:04am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:48am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:45am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:34am:

Nobody needs to justify attacking an incumbent government for its policies - this is a democracy regardless of how much and how often you Fascists try to alter it to suit yourselves... and the people are rising .... this is but the catalyst.... there is far more to come.

So the RBA wants to raise interest rates again instead of seeking valid answers - who asked them to? Put it to the people in a referendum.

😂🤣😆

Grandpa Grappler - we cant afford the CURRENT referendum which will cost us over $365 million to run. Albo is on record for stating that he has no idea how much it The Voice will cost Australia post referendum.

👆 This not only demonstrates inept and reckless financial mismanagement by Albo it also indicates disrespect and disregard for every Australian tax payer. I also find it seriously insulting.

The whole thing is seriously insulting from end to end - the insolence of office....

I wish I had the opportunity to influence decisions in parliament. I would so NOT WASTE money and ENSURE we had more money in the govt coffers to address the serious issues pertaining to ALL Australians irrespective of cultural identity. These serious and urgent issues are : aged care, health, and the safety of women and children.

Note : The safety of women and children includes the timely provision of SAFE housing as well as clothing and food.

👆 These issues must be addressed ASAP and once we’ve addressed them ... we will find billions of dollars slowly coming back into future budgets. The only way to kickstart the painful process of finding money is to SAVE money. And that must start from the top! How? With every single politician leading by way of example and accepting the reality that they MUST identify with the people if they are to represent the people. Their longstanding lurks and perks must stop. They are now not only anachronistic ... they are insulting and cruel!

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Re: Support for the Voice to Parliament has fallen
Reply #149 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 11:06am

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 11:02am:

Lisa says: Feel free to respond

TGD: Dear Lisa, see #138.

Choice-mobile, son - that's what it's all about.... same as the Indigenous on whether or not to accept some personal responsibility for their own plight and actually do something about it.

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