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cope

we've all heard this silent majority bullshit rationalisation before, it doesnt exist

most people who have the good sense to vote against the voice are usually going to be 1) older generations (boomers and older) 2) actual racists (reality observers)


and there is increasingly not enough of either group in the electorate to actually stop stuff like this

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2023 at 1:56pm:


lack of empathy - you are a Narcissist

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2023 at 1:23pm:


Go live in Alice Springs and see for yourself

Narcissist

JC Denton wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2023 at 4:19pm:


The trend is downwards. And they haven't even settled on the question yet.

If the Solicitor-General’s opinion on how the voice referendum will work is correct, then Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples will have good reason to believe they were duped.

But if he is wrong, and the constitutional experts advising me say there is a greater than 50 per cent chance that his controversial opinion will be rejected by the High Court, then it will be the non-Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Australians who will have been duped.

The voice referendum aimed to achieve reconciliation. Instead, it has now become akin to a High Court poker game, where the loser will have been double-crossed.

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If the Solicitor-General is wrong, and I repeat there is at least a 50 per cent chance that he is wrong, then Australian non-Indigenous people will have changed the Constitution on the basis of a false premise.

And if he is right, then Indigenous people will also have been misled.

This is an appalling situation and requires senior members of the government not to simply leave the matter to the Prime Minister and Solicitor-General.  Playing racial politics with a Constitution is not in the interests of any nation.

ROBERT GOTTLIEBSEN
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/advice-risks-turning-the-voice-model-into-high-court-poker/news-story/719bff0f00d087c84ab1b65dea4f8344

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Apr 24^th, 2023 at 8:39pm:


The only spirits I like her to connect with are those in the government who just sent me a few payments of $70 or so for her accompanying me to doctors and such.  Be a lot more than that too.  I can always use the extra money.

Submissions to the Joint Select Committee on the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice Referendum

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Aboriginal_and_To...

From Cole's submission:

2. The Voice is critical to the objectives made clear in the Uluru Statement from
the Heart (the Uluru statement) that Aboriginals and Torres Strait Islanders
wish to establish:
(a) Aboriginal Sovereignty over Australian territory.
(b) Ownership of Australian land and surrounding waters.
(c) Makarrata Commissions resulting in” reconciliation,” including a treaty
between Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders on the one hand, and the
Commonwealth of Australia and its people on the other, together with
monetary and other compensation.
(d) truth telling.
3. Regarding (a), The High Court of Australia has consistently rejected the claim
for Aboriginal sovereignty which is inconsistent with the sovereignty of the
Commonwealth of Australia. Aboriginals seek to change this.
4. Regarding (b), ownership of land and waters in Australia is determined by
Australian statutes. Aboriginals seek to change this.
5. To achieve the objectives in (c), it is necessary to split the Australian people
permanently into two groups based solely on race. This is wrong in principle. It
will be to the permanent detriment of Australia and its peoples. It will confer
on one group of Australians only, rights to influence future lawmaking which
other Australians do not have. This will divide Australians.
6. A Makarrata Commission would look backwards, trawling over events,
legislation, policies and administrative actions over the past 225 years to
discover areas of discontent in the minds of present living Aboriginals, all of
whom were born since Federation. And to award them compensation. This will
divide Australians.
7. And so too will “truth telling” which will seek to revise Australian history to
have an Aboriginal perspective.
8. Dividing Australian society permanently based on race is inconsistent with
the great unified multicultural society Australia has established since World
War 2.
9.The Voice is the tool the Aboriginal interests will use to achieve advantage for
one small minority in our society.
10.The potential for great irremediable harm to Australian society means the
Voice should never be incorporated in the Australian constitution, which should
be amended only if such amendment advantages Australian society as a whole.
The Voice does not.

Best thing that could happen to it.