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Reply #240 - Mar 29th, 2024 at 3:44pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 29th, 2024 at 2:39pm:
No you old fool. I came to challenge someone saying all Aboriginal babies should be sterilised. This is of course perfectly fime with you so you didn't feel compelled to say anything.

Hell, you probably agree.

And i've spent years here writing essays on what can be done to help and sort these problems. Indigenous elders, spokespeople and advocated have been scr3e4aming it from the roof tops for years and years. All falls on deaf ears.

Why? Because you and the other nasty little bigots that frequent this site are determined not to listed to anything that paints Aboriginal people as anything other than sub-human recalcitrants, too stupid, lazy and shiftless to function in what you arrogantly and myopically consider "your" superior society.

There is no point talking to you.

You're dyed in the wool bigots and it will die with you. You are irredeemable and certainly not here for debate. You're hear to spew your filth because nowhere else on earth wants you.


See?  She didn't 'leave in a huff!  She came BACK in a huff!
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Reply #241 - Mar 29th, 2024 at 4:00pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 29th, 2024 at 2:39pm:
No you old fool. I came to challenge someone saying all Aboriginal babies should be sterilised. This is of course perfectly fime with you so you didn't feel compelled to say anything.

Hell, you probably agree.

And i've spent years here writing essays on what can be done to help and sort these problems. Indigenous elders, spokespeople and advocated have been scr3e4aming it from the roof tops for years and years. All falls on deaf ears.

Why? Because you and the other nasty little bigots that frequent this site are determined not to listed to anything that paints Aboriginal people as anything other than sub-human recalcitrants, too stupid, lazy and shiftless to function in what you arrogantly and myopically consider "your" superior society.

There is no point talking to you.

You're dyed in the wool bigots and it will die with you. You are irredeemable and certainly not here for debate. You're hear to spew your filth because nowhere else on earth wants you.


You were asked a simple question: "what's your solution" to the problem of rioting and antisocial behaviour. One solution, as far-fetched as it was, is to sterilise the troublemakers. So far, that is the leading argument. You have not provided any counterargument, because you are trying to appeal to emotion.

Let us face facts, there is a discipline problem among youths in Alice Springs. No other reason has been put forth as to why the rioting has taken place in Alice Springs, other than some lunatic logic that a car thief died during a joyride. I really cannot see how the town needs to suffer vandalism because of the self-inflicted problems.

It is a "damned if you do, damned if you don't situation". You can let the indigenous people sort their own problems out on their own. But then, the local, state and federal government would be accused of neglecting them. Or you could intervene in their problems and try and fix the situation. But that would be called the "white saviour" effect.

Let us face the facts: Indigenous people won't get better until they start behaving themselves. If I can see that happen inside a 10 year period in an aboriginal community of Woorabinda, then it should be able to happen in Alice Springs.
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Reply #242 - Mar 29th, 2024 at 4:01pm
 
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Reply #243 - Mar 29th, 2024 at 4:03pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 29th, 2024 at 3:44pm:
See?  She didn't 'leave in a huff!  She came BACK in a huff!


She could leave in a taxi. And she could leave in a huff. And if that is not long enough for her, she can leave in a minute-and-a-huff -- Groucho Marx.
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Reply #244 - Mar 29th, 2024 at 4:10pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 29th, 2024 at 4:00pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 29th, 2024 at 2:39pm:
No you old fool. I came to challenge someone saying all Aboriginal babies should be sterilised. This is of course perfectly fime with you so you didn't feel compelled to say anything.

Hell, you probably agree.

And i've spent years here writing essays on what can be done to help and sort these problems. Indigenous elders, spokespeople and advocated have been scr3e4aming it from the roof tops for years and years. All falls on deaf ears.

Why? Because you and the other nasty little bigots that frequent this site are determined not to listed to anything that paints Aboriginal people as anything other than sub-human recalcitrants, too stupid, lazy and shiftless to function in what you arrogantly and myopically consider "your" superior society.

There is no point talking to you.

You're dyed in the wool bigots and it will die with you. You are irredeemable and certainly not here for debate. You're hear to spew your filth because nowhere else on earth wants you.


You were asked a simple question: "what's your solution" to the problem of rioting and antisocial behaviour. One solution, as far-fetched as it was, is to sterilise the troublemakers. So far, that is the leading argument. You have not provided any counterargument, because you are trying to appeal to emotion.

Let us face facts, there is a discipline problem among youths in Alice Springs. No other reason has been put forth as to why the rioting has taken place in Alice Springs, other than some lunatic logic that a car thief died during a joyride. I really cannot see how the town needs to suffer vandalism because of the self-inflicted problems.

It is a "damned if you do, damned if you don't situation". You can let the indigenous people sort their own problems out on their own. But then, the local, state and federal government would be accused of neglecting them. Or you could intervene in their problems and try and fix the situation. But that would be called the "white saviour" effect.

Let us face the facts: Indigenous people won't get better until they start behaving themselves. If I can see that happen inside a 10 year period in an aboriginal community of Woorabinda, then it should be able to happen in Alice Springs.



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Reply #245 - Mar 29th, 2024 at 4:30pm
 
I have bigotry against antisocial behaviour. I have been a bigot to antisocial behaviour since I was a child. In adulthood, I want something like antisocial behaviour to be severely reprimanded.

Meanwhile, mothra is all about allowing indigenous Australians to run riot and destroy property... all because she thinks that indigenous Australians have a get-out-of-gaol-free race card that they can use for their entire lives.
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Reply #246 - Mar 29th, 2024 at 4:51pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 29th, 2024 at 2:39pm:
And i've spent years here writing essays on what can be done to help and sort these problems. Indigenous elders, spokespeople and advocated have been scr3e4aming it from the roof tops for years and years. All falls on deaf ears.

Why? Because you and the other nasty little bigots that frequent this site are determined not to listed to anything that paints Aboriginal people as anything other than sub-human recalcitrants, too stupid, lazy and shiftless to function in what you arrogantly and myopically consider "your" superior society.


Oh?? So we have SOOO MUCH power over successive Federal, State and Territory government that we easily make them ignore all your screaming!
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Reply #247 - Mar 29th, 2024 at 5:10pm
 
'Jeez,man - we've all spent year writing essays about social issues.... some of us have written books.... how many Abos does it take to change their ways?  All of 'em - but they need to want to change.....'
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Reply #248 - Mar 29th, 2024 at 5:15pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 29th, 2024 at 4:10pm:
And to prove my point ....


So that's your answer?  No wonder things never change except for the worse... just pat them on the heads, tell them they're all good Abos, and send them home to recuperate and build up for the next Invasion.....

A li'l ol' discipline on the front porch never hurt nobody...

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Reply #249 - Mar 29th, 2024 at 6:23pm
 
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/alice-springs-youth-curfew-is-canary-in...

Like up the road here about twenty k - no wonder the kids won't go home.... but you take them into protection and you are stealing generations and their abusive and neglectful 'parents' weep and wail and call out for money ....

"The issue for us is how do you enforce a curfew that means sending kids to a home or a place where they are not guaranteed to be safe?" he said.

According to West Australian police, Derby has one of the highest domestic violence rates in the state, with much of the town's crime due to drugs and alcohol. "


You do realise that both the ex here and I come from similar backgrounds?  Difference is we had no 'parents' to wake from a drunken torpor after beating the living daylights out of the kids etc, and who then went with hands out for money to get pissed again.... and got it........ lament, lament - wait for the royalties to come in so we can forget about life for a while.... wait for the dole money to arrive on the Cargo Culter ... go to the charities to cop some free food for the starving kids at home.....

**pulls up rock at fireside along the road march on Cambra**  "You know, dear old 'mothra' - biggest loser of all time, once asked if I knew who she was... did I LLIGAFF?  From the low life attitude and where she 'lives', I considered the ex sister-in-law... who always had money for a packet of smokes but in between neglecting them kids (got it from two of them) or helping her 'husband' to abuse the kids (got THAT from two of them, too!), never had enough to feed them.  The old bro - he's gone now, dying doing what he loved - fighting his neighbours .... had a few years on her and hooked her at fifteen/sixteen... he trained her well in how to be an abusive asshole while blaming everyone else... not his fault ... NEVER her fault..... and those cockroaches in the kitchen?  Just part of the scenery.....

Those kids still bear the scars in many ways - and I cannot fully connect with them.  All I can do is thank the stars my own children, due to my divorcing the whole 'family', never put up with that or anything else, and are close rellies of many famous people now.... my son has connected with more Hollywood stars than Spielberg ....my daughter does very well out of movies.... and personally knows some stars as well.  My grand-children are set for life.....  Sole Survivor - pity both that and Soul Survivor have been used.... and the road has been long and hard....."

**throws coffee dregs on fire**  "Time for sleep now... big day tomorrow trying to save Australia - or what's left of it...."
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Reply #250 - Mar 29th, 2024 at 7:14pm
 
mothra wrote on Mar 29th, 2024 at 2:39pm:
No you old fool. I came to challenge someone saying all Aboriginal babies should be sterilised. This is of course perfectly fime with you so you didn't feel compelled to say anything.

Hell, you probably agree.

And i've spent years here writing essays on what can be done to help and sort these problems. Indigenous elders, spokespeople and advocated have been scr3e4aming it from the roof tops for years and years. All falls on deaf ears.

Why? Because you and the other nasty little bigots that frequent this site are determined not to listed to anything that paints Aboriginal people as anything other than sub-human recalcitrants, too stupid, lazy and shiftless to function in what you arrogantly and myopically consider "your" superior society.

There is no point talking to you.

You're dyed in the wool bigots and it will die with you. You are irredeemable and certainly not here for debate. You're hear to spew your filth because nowhere else on earth wants you.


Aborigines are ****ed because they have you and your ilk in their corner.
It's your kind of screeching, mindless ideologues, totally divorced and unmoored from practical life, who have been out-shouting everyone for decades and thus rendering Aborigines in remote areas ever more feral, unruly, despicably toxic.

You green haired screechers want something for Aborigines that you wouldn't wish on your own children or family. And so they turn out the way you would be horrified to see in your own children and family.

They are not some ****ing magic winged unicorns from Dreamtime. They need exactly the same thing your own children, my children, all our children need. There is no special Aboriginal need.



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Reply #251 - Mar 29th, 2024 at 8:55pm
 
Well they SHOULD BE STERILISED.
They obviously are having more Children than they can responsibly take care of.
'Over-Populating', especially beyond responsible means - is CHILD ABUSE.


Suck on that one Mothra!  Smiley

Lets also admit that the so-called 'Elders' as if they deserve some sort of 'respect' for their position Roll Eyes are doing SWEET F_UCK ALL about it all and are probably so much just as much part of the problem - hence why they CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
...then blame White People as Racists for HAVING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
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Reply #252 - Mar 29th, 2024 at 9:12pm
 
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Reply #253 - Mar 29th, 2024 at 9:19pm
 
If they stop it in Alice.
Then expect the Abos to do it everywhere else in return.
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Reply #254 - Mar 29th, 2024 at 10:09pm
 
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