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Re: Alice is finished.
Reply #60 - May 11^th, 2023 at 11:45am

thegreatdivide wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 11:02pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:53pm:

Imagine if this was like Amurika and every town had people entitled to own guns and defend self and property..... there's be about zero crime out there in The Nong...

But plenty of dead people.....like in Amurika.

... as long as they are the miscreants, does it matter?

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84465 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Alice is finished. Reply #61 - May 11^th, 2023 at 4:22pm Alice Springs back off the ropes....
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Re: Alice is finished.
Reply #63 - May 12^th, 2023 at 10:57pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 12^th, 2023 at 9:49pm:

A. Dillon: "..how they achieved personal success; through access to education and employment, either through the many indigenous-focused programs, or their own efforts.

It's a pity you are not hearing what he is saying, especially the 'either/or' at the end.

Different people require different paths to success via education and employment, some requiring external assistance with "indigenous focused programs" to get there, given the current miserable conditions of social dysfunction which is the current reality for many.

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Re: Alice is finished.
Reply #64 - May 13^th, 2023 at 12:01am

thegreatdivide wrote on May 12^th, 2023 at 10:57pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 12^th, 2023 at 9:49pm:

A. Dillon: "..how they achieved personal success; through access to education and employment, either through the many indigenous-focused programs, or their own efforts.

It's a pity you are not hearing what he is saying, especially the 'either/or' at the end.

Different people require different paths to success via education and employment, some requiring external assistance with "indigenous focused programs" to get there, given the current miserable conditions of social dysfunction which is the current reality for many.

Pompous little ass, aren't you? Once again - must be a thousand times now - not one of your fancy ideas has not been tried and not one has worked, and their social dysfunction is largely of their own creation, and they will only make it worse by alienating others.

Cheaper to round 'em all up and give 'em a Homeland that equates to 3.8% of the continent as does their representation in the population of it, and leave it at that. Or round 'em all up and ship 'em out to somewhere they think will make them happy.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29493 Gender:	Re: Alice is finished. Reply #65 - May 13^th, 2023 at 11:06am Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 12^th, 2023 at 9:49pm: . Another Aboriginal with some common sense.
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Re: Alice is finished.
Reply #66 - May 13^th, 2023 at 1:14pm

Gnads wrote on May 13^th, 2023 at 11:06am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 12^th, 2023 at 9:49pm:

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Another Aboriginal with some common sense.

Don't tell dividie that - he likes to pick the eye out of a gnat at ten paces.... and he assumes an incredible lot about others who he doesn't even know.... that's why I don't bother to defend his statements against me - it drives him crazy. coupla shots back to keep him stirred and away he goes....

Until I met him here I'd never have known that I adhered to the disastrous economic management of this country, and caused all the problems for the blacks and the housing crisis and all that..... apparently he assumes that since I reject his CDEP fantasies I oppose providing opportunities for Abos - when the truth is you can't even get many of them to school as the figures show, so why would you expect them to attend to learn a trade etc when Albo is holding out the prospect of a treaty that will give them riches for life on the basis that they were the first settlers?

The boy simply cannot be serious.

Dividie - bube` - you get them to school first and then we'll talk about further training.

https://ctgreport.niaa.gov.au/school-attendance

Attendance rates for Indigenous students remain lower than for non‑Indigenous students (around 82 per cent compared to 92 per cent in 2019). Gaps in attendance are evident for Indigenous children as a group from the first year of schooling. The attendance gap widens during secondary school.

And guess what - that includes in the city schools where there are plenty of opportunities..... so you see - the actual divide is very much larger in many areas - and guess what - it is all their own doing again.

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Re: Alice is finished.
Reply #67 - May 13^th, 2023 at 1:19pm

BTW - Alice isn't finished - some movement will take back the streets..... but for the officials to do anything they need to get rid of the namby-pamby sheila government up there and get some real people in.... all the smarmy army BS isn't doing anything but encouraging lawlessness.

Vote Out All The Party Losers Who Won't Do their Jobs! ... and get some balls back into leadership....... FFS ......

I told you so!!!!

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Re: Alice is finished.
Reply #68 - May 13^th, 2023 at 10:44pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 13^th, 2023 at 12:01am:

Pompous little ass, aren't you?

Can you show the "pomposity" in :"Different people require different paths to success via education and employment, some requiring external assistance with "indigenous focused programs" to get there, given the current miserable conditions (afflicting many) ...."

Thank you.

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Re: Alice is finished.
Reply #69 - May 13^th, 2023 at 10:50pm

"It's a pity you are not hearing what he is saying, especially the 'either/or' at the end. "

That do you, pompous little ass? Nothing to do with what you posted below as your excuse. I won't even discuss that stupid comment of yours above with you.... you work it out. You've been given the information to do so time and time again.

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Re: Alice is finished.
Reply #70 - May 13^th, 2023 at 10:56pm

Serious question, dividie - are you here just to try to gaslight people... Lefty in disguise again trying to work his loaf to irritate people? It's not working - we're too sensible and stable for that.

Now stick to the subjects and leave off your silly little boy slagging at others over some mythical ideological stance you want to imagine they have.

Grow Up!

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Re: Alice is finished.
Reply #71 - May 13^th, 2023 at 11:28pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 13^th, 2023 at 10:50pm:

"It's a pity you are not hearing what he is saying, especially the 'either/or' at the end. "

That do you, pompous little ass? Nothing to do with what you posted below as your excuse. I won't even discuss that stupid comment of yours above with you.... you work it out. You've been given the information to do so time and time again.

I would have thought you would take the opportunity to show where my analysis is flawed in a straight-forward sentence (which btw you posted) recommending "indigenous-focused programs" ...which obviously require government planning and intervention, to expedite the programs to a successful conclusion.

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Boris Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3978 Gender:	Re: Alice is finished. Reply #72 - May 14^th, 2023 at 8:42am Houses in the Alice have signs - For Sale or For Rent everywhere. People are packing up and leaving in droves. Alice is finished. "Over 80 per cent of people said they currently do not feel safe, with over 60 per cent of people saying that they are considering leaving the Northern Territory, due to the crime."
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Reply #73 - May 14^th, 2023 at 12:43pm

Boris wrote on May 14^th, 2023 at 8:42am:

Alice is finished.

"Over 80 per cent of people said they currently do not feel safe, with over 60 per cent of people saying that they are considering leaving the Northern Territory, due to the crime."

And you are complicit in the cause of the problem in the Alice, namely, the neoliberal economy's failure to provide above-poverty jobs for all.

quick google

"Instead of viewing unemployment as a collective problem (as was the case in the Keynesian 'welfare state' era 1946 -1970s), neoliberalism painted unemployment as an individual responsibility. The public focus shifted from ensuring there were enough jobs for all to a dialogue around individual employability."

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Re: Alice is finished.
Reply #74 - May 14^th, 2023 at 1:20pm

Boris wrote on May 14^th, 2023 at 8:42am:

Houses in the Alice have signs - For Sale or For Rent everywhere.

People are packing up and leaving in droves.

Alice is finished.

"Over 80 per cent of people said they currently do not feel safe, with over 60 per cent of people saying that they are considering leaving the Northern Territory, due to the crime."

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Matty, what a doomsayer you are. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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