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Reply #255 - May 11th, 2023 at 2:40pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 2:32pm:
Aussie wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 10:17am:
Bobby. wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 10:07am:
Greggy - get your hand off it.


Trump is appealing the verdict.


Criminal defendant Trump - the proven sexual abuser - has no grounds for appeal.

He was given every opportunity to testify - in fact, the judge extended the deadline so that the sexual abuser could get back to the US from Scotland - but the sexual abuser still refused to testify.

It's very unlikely the sexual abuser you worship will be granted an appeal.



There are three possible grounds I have in mind....there may well be more but I am not aware of every detail of the Trial.

1.  Allowing the Hollywood Tape into evidence.
2.  Allowing the similar prior events (the two other women) into evidence.
3.  Perverse jury, given they found he did not rape but still found there was sexual abuse.  (Suggesting they half believed Carroll.  Kinda like being only half pregnant.)


I've explained this bit before.

Carroll couldn't tell for sure if it was his penis penetrating her or his finger, as they are both roughly the same size.

Finger = sexual battery

Penis = rape

For once in his life, criminal defendant Trump's small penis was a blessing.





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Re: 'Donald Trump raped me'
Reply #256 - May 11th, 2023 at 2:58pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 10:17am:
Bobby. wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 10:07am:
Greggy - get your hand off it.


Trump is appealing the verdict.


Criminal defendant Trump - the proven sexual abuser - has no grounds for appeal.

He was given every opportunity to testify - in fact, the judge extended the deadline so that the sexual abuser could get back to the US from Scotland - but the sexual abuser still refused to testify.

It's very unlikely the sexual abuser you worship will be granted an appeal.



There are three possible grounds I have in mind....there may well be more but I am not aware of every detail of the Trial.

1.  Allowing the Hollywood Tape into evidence.
2.  Allowing the similar prior events (the two other women) into evidence.
3.  Perverse jury, given they found he did not rape but still found there was sexual abuse.  (Suggesting they half believed Carroll.  Kinda like being only half pregnant.)



At last a real lawyer tells it like it is -
not these forum clowns making up stories.
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Re: 'Donald Trump raped me'
Reply #257 - May 11th, 2023 at 3:02pm
 
Karnal wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 2:40pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 2:32pm:
Aussie wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 10:17am:
Bobby. wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 10:07am:
Greggy - get your hand off it.


Trump is appealing the verdict.


Criminal defendant Trump - the proven sexual abuser - has no grounds for appeal.

He was given every opportunity to testify - in fact, the judge extended the deadline so that the sexual abuser could get back to the US from Scotland - but the sexual abuser still refused to testify.

It's very unlikely the sexual abuser you worship will be granted an appeal.



There are three possible grounds I have in mind....there may well be more but I am not aware of every detail of the Trial.

1.  Allowing the Hollywood Tape into evidence.
2.  Allowing the similar prior events (the two other women) into evidence.
3.  Perverse jury, given they found he did not rape but still found there was sexual abuse.  (Suggesting they half believed Carroll.  Kinda like being only half pregnant.)


I've explained this bit before.

Carroll couldn't tell for sure if it was his penis penetrating her or his finger, as they are both roughly the same size.

Finger = sexual battery

Penis = rape

For once in his life, criminal defendant Trump's small penis was a blessing.





Grin


Funny as it is, it's true.

Shirin Ali: What’s the difference in proving a sexual abuse allegation versus rape?

Corey Rayburn Yung: Well, the difference, as the jury was instructed, between rape and sexual abuse, is that for it to be rape, there had to have been vaginal penetration by Trump’s penis. It’s very specific in terms of the penetration required.

Carroll testified that he initially penetrated her digitally with his finger, but then followed with his penis. It seems strange that the jurors would find her story persuasive enough to find Trump liable on the sex abuse count, but not on the rape account, just to say that that is the one fact she did not establish by a preponderance of evidence.


His tiny prick got him off the hook.
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Re: 'Donald Trump raped me'
Reply #258 - May 11th, 2023 at 3:43pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 2:58pm:
Aussie wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 10:17am:
Bobby. wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 10:07am:
Greggy - get your hand off it.


Trump is appealing the verdict.


Criminal defendant Trump - the proven sexual abuser - has no grounds for appeal.

He was given every opportunity to testify - in fact, the judge extended the deadline so that the sexual abuser could get back to the US from Scotland - but the sexual abuser still refused to testify.

It's very unlikely the sexual abuser you worship will be granted an appeal.



There are three possible grounds I have in mind....there may well be more but I am not aware of every detail of the Trial.

1.  Allowing the Hollywood Tape into evidence.
2.  Allowing the similar prior events (the two other women) into evidence.
3.  Perverse jury, given they found he did not rape but still found there was sexual abuse.  (Suggesting they half believed Carroll.  Kinda like being only half pregnant.)



At last a real lawyer tells it like it is -
not these forum clowns making up stories.


Sorry, Bobby, are you saying the big fella DIDN'T do it?

You haven't said.
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Re: 'Donald Trump raped me'
Reply #259 - May 11th, 2023 at 3:51pm
 
Karnal wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 3:43pm:
Sorry, Bobby, are you saying the big fella DIDN'T do it?

You haven't said.



The big fella is innocent -
the whole trial was set up by the Deep State -
we both know that.



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Re: 'Donald Trump raped me'
Reply #260 - May 11th, 2023 at 5:39pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 3:51pm:
Karnal wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 3:43pm:
Sorry, Bobby, are you saying the big fella DIDN'T do it?

You haven't said.



The big fella is innocent -


No.  He was found guilty.

Guilty of sexual battery and guilty of defamation.

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Re: 'Donald Trump raped me'
Reply #261 - May 11th, 2023 at 5:51pm
 

Trump is innocent -

people like Greggy want to nail him to a cross.
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Reply #262 - May 11th, 2023 at 5:53pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 5:51pm:
Trump is innocent -



No.

He was found guilty by a jury of his peers.

He will be forever known as a sexual abuser of women.

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Reply #263 - May 11th, 2023 at 6:00pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 3:51pm:
Karnal wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 3:43pm:
Sorry, Bobby, are you saying the big fella DIDN'T do it?

You haven't said.



The big fella is innocent -
the whole trial was set up by the Deep State -
we both know that.



https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/134/933/827/original/be18b1...


No one thinks that, Bobby, including a jury and a court of law. The big fella is now a legal perpetrator. He wouldn't even pass a Working With Children's Check in most jurisdictions.

So I'm curious. How's the big fella going to play the law and order candidate now?

And how are you going to do your law and order routine here? How are you going to play your Hang 'Em High clip seriously ever again?

Now he's been well and truly busted, your Swamp-draining meme rings as shrill and hollow as Aquascoot's "noble Capitalist" schtick. Just think:

- The most government handouts to the chodes
- The most subsidies to big ag, big pharma
- The biggest trade deficit in a quarter of a century
- The highest tariffs in half a century
- The biggest government deficit in history

You?
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Reply #264 - May 11th, 2023 at 6:06pm
 
Karnal wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 6:00pm:
No one thinks that, Bobby, including a jury and a court of law. The big fella is now a legal perpetrator. He wouldn't even pass a Working With Children's Check in most jurisdictions.

So I'm curious. How's the big fella going to play the law and order candidate now?

And how are you going to do your law and order routine here? How are you going to play your Hang 'Em High clip seriously ever again?

Now he's been well and truly busted, your Swamp-draining meme rings as shrill and hollow as Aquascoot's "noble Capitalist" schtick. Just think:

- The most government handouts to the chodes
- The most subsidies to big ag, big pharma
- The biggest trade deficit in a quarter of a century
- The highest tariffs in half a century
- The biggest government deficit in history

You?




Lock her up.    Grin



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Reply #265 - May 11th, 2023 at 6:10pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 2:32pm:
Aussie wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 10:17am:
Bobby. wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 10:07am:
Greggy - get your hand off it.


Trump is appealing the verdict.


Criminal defendant Trump - the proven sexual abuser - has no grounds for appeal.

He was given every opportunity to testify - in fact, the judge extended the deadline so that the sexual abuser could get back to the US from Scotland - but the sexual abuser still refused to testify.

It's very unlikely the sexual abuser you worship will be granted an appeal.



There are three possible grounds I have in mind....there may well be more but I am not aware of every detail of the Trial.

1.  Allowing the Hollywood Tape into evidence.
2.  Allowing the similar prior events (the two other women) into evidence.
3.  Perverse jury, given they found he did not rape but still found there was sexual abuse.  (Suggesting they half believed Carroll.  Kinda like being only half pregnant.)


I've explained this bit before.

Carroll couldn't tell for sure if it was his penis penetrating her or his finger, as they are both roughly the same size.

Finger = sexual battery

Penis = rape

For once in his life, criminal defendant Trump's small penis was a blessing.





Yes I read that but I cannot find any Media/Press where it is reported.  Do you have a link?
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Reply #266 - May 11th, 2023 at 6:11pm
 
Karnal wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 2:38pm:
Aussie wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 10:17am:
Bobby. wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 10:07am:
Greggy - get your hand off it.


Trump is appealing the verdict.


Criminal defendant Trump - the proven sexual abuser - has no grounds for appeal.

He was given every opportunity to testify - in fact, the judge extended the deadline so that the sexual abuser could get back to the US from Scotland - but the sexual abuser still refused to testify.

It's very unlikely the sexual abuser you worship will be granted an appeal.



There are three possible grounds I have in mind....there may well be more but I am not aware of every detail of the Trial.

1.  Allowing the Hollywood Tape into evidence.
2.  Allowing the similar prior events (the two other women) into evidence.
3.  Perverse jury, given they found he did not rape but still found there was sexual abuse.  (Suggesting they half believed Carroll.  Kinda like being only half pregnant.)


How could a jury not hear evidence of a plaintiff admitting to the modus operandi of his wrongdoing? It's tantamount to a confession.


I agree but I suspect it will be an appeal point.
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Reply #267 - May 11th, 2023 at 6:19pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 6:11pm:
Karnal wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 2:38pm:
Aussie wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 10:17am:
Bobby. wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 10:07am:
Greggy - get your hand off it.


Trump is appealing the verdict.


Criminal defendant Trump - the proven sexual abuser - has no grounds for appeal.

He was given every opportunity to testify - in fact, the judge extended the deadline so that the sexual abuser could get back to the US from Scotland - but the sexual abuser still refused to testify.

It's very unlikely the sexual abuser you worship will be granted an appeal.



There are three possible grounds I have in mind....there may well be more but I am not aware of every detail of the Trial.

1.  Allowing the Hollywood Tape into evidence.
2.  Allowing the similar prior events (the two other women) into evidence.
3.  Perverse jury, given they found he did not rape but still found there was sexual abuse.  (Suggesting they half believed Carroll.  Kinda like being only half pregnant.)


How could a jury not hear evidence of a plaintiff admitting to the modus operandi of his wrongdoing? It's tantamount to a confession.


I agree but I suspect it will be an appeal point.


You've gotta feel for the big guy, Aussie. Think of all the hard work he put in working tirelessly for the American people.

More executive time than any prez in recorded history, no?
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Reply #268 - May 11th, 2023 at 6:30pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 6:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 2:32pm:
Aussie wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 10:17am:
Bobby. wrote on May 11th, 2023 at 10:07am:
Greggy - get your hand off it.


Trump is appealing the verdict.


Criminal defendant Trump - the proven sexual abuser - has no grounds for appeal.

He was given every opportunity to testify - in fact, the judge extended the deadline so that the sexual abuser could get back to the US from Scotland - but the sexual abuser still refused to testify.

It's very unlikely the sexual abuser you worship will be granted an appeal.



There are three possible grounds I have in mind....there may well be more but I am not aware of every detail of the Trial.

1.  Allowing the Hollywood Tape into evidence.
2.  Allowing the similar prior events (the two other women) into evidence.
3.  Perverse jury, given they found he did not rape but still found there was sexual abuse.  (Suggesting they half believed Carroll.  Kinda like being only half pregnant.)


I've explained this bit before.

Carroll couldn't tell for sure if it was his penis penetrating her or his finger, as they are both roughly the same size.

Finger = sexual battery

Penis = rape

For once in his life, criminal defendant Trump's small penis was a blessing.





Yes I read that but I cannot find any Media/Press where it is reported.  Do you have a link?


Why Trump Was Found Liable for Sexual Abuse—but Not Rape

A law professor explains.


"Corey Rayburn Yung: Well, the difference, as the jury was instructed, between rape and sexual abuse, is that for it to be rape, there had to have been vaginal penetration by Trump’s penis. It’s very specific in terms of the penetration required. Carroll testified that he initially penetrated her digitally with his finger, but then followed with his penis."

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Reply #269 - May 11th, 2023 at 6:32pm
 
So this:

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Carroll couldn't tell for sure if it was his penis penetrating her or his finger, as they are both roughly the same size.


....is your theory and not something Carroll said?
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