Makes you wonder if she ever actually met Trump. Something about another count of false witness seems to be more likely.

Karnal wrote on May 1^st, 2023 at 6:12pm:


The dick in question is so small, she couldn't tell if it was all the way in or only half-way in, or if it was his fingers.

Embarrassing for the old guy.

"Carroll recounted how Trump allegedly shoved her against the wall despite her struggles and eventually inserted his fingers and then his penis inside her."

“I’m telling you he raped me whether I screamed or not,” she said, her voice breaking.

Tacopina also confronted Carroll over the fact she did not call police and instead called a friend, Lisa Birnbach.

Trump’s lawyer pressed Carroll about why, by her own account, she was laughing as she spoke to Birnbach. Carroll said that she was looking for reassurance that what she had just gone through was not as bad as she feared.

As Carroll began describing the assault, Birnbach told her to stop laughing.

“If Lisa had laughed I would have felt so much better. I was disoriented,” she said.

Instead, Birnbach told Carroll: “He raped you.”

“Those are the words that brought the reality to the forefront of my mind,” said Carroll.

Later, another friend told her not to go to the police because Trump was too powerful to take on.

“That’s the advice I wanted so that’s the advice I followed,” said Carroll.

E. Jean Carroll Said She Told 2 Friends That Trump Raped Her. Now They Are Speaking Out.
Carol Martin and Lisa Birnbach told The New York Times they gave their friend different advice about what to do.

Birnbach said Carroll called her one day after leaving Bergdorf Goodman in New York City, minutes after the alleged rape had occurred. She said Carroll told her what happened ― an account that has made headlines across the world since New York magazine first published it last week.

Carroll has alleged Trump recognized her as she was leaving the luxury department store that day, stopped her and asked her to advise him on a gift he planned to buy for a woman. They allegedly ended up in the lingerie department of the store, where he told her to try on what she has described as a “bodysuit.”

She said she refused but suggested he do so. That’s when they ended up in a dressing room where, she has alleged, he pinned her against the wall with his shoulder, aggressively pulled down her tights with one hand, undid his pants with the other and and forcibly inserted his penis into her vagina briefly.

“You did say, ‘He put his penis in me,’” Birnbach told Carroll during the Times interview. “And I said ... ‘What? He raped you?’ And you said ... ‘He pulled down my tights. He pulled down my tights.’”

Alleged Trump rape: Two women back up accuser's story

If Trump and his family / lawyer continue to defame, slander and libel E. Jean Carroll and the Judge overseeing this trial they could find themselves being charged with contempt or face further defamation suites based on their ongoing slander during a legal proceeding to determine if in fact E. Jean Carroll has been defamed....Trump and his lawyer are providing evidence that the defamation of E. Jean Carroll is continuing to this day whilst legal proceedings are ongoing....Trump is digging himself into a corner by continuing his slander....Someone needs to tell the Trump team to shut up???

aquascoot wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 7:23am:


Not once, no.  But seventeen times?  Yes   

Trump Org. fined $1.6 million after conviction for 17 felonies, including tax fraud

Karnal wrote on May 2^nd, 2023 at 12:58pm:


Which verse?  He must have a favourite.