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Re: Texas mass shooting
Reply #135 - May 9^th, 2023 at 10:03pm

Mortdooley wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:24pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:19pm:

It isn't the guns, ...

Oh, it most certainly is the guns.

Unless you can provide a link to a mass shooting that didn't involve a gun, or maybe show us where someone died from a gunshot wound when there were no guns involved.

I have never known of a gun shooting by its own choice. It always takes human interaction but far be it for some people to put all the blame on the human!

Take the gun out of the equation and nobody gets shot. Everyone goes home alive.

The person is going to be there, there is nothing can be done about that. The gun on the other hand is optional. It isn't about blame it is about solutions.

No gun = no mass shooting 100% of the time.

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Re: Texas mass shooting
Reply #136 - May 9^th, 2023 at 10:06pm

Mortdooley wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:24pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:19pm:

It isn't the guns, ...

Oh, it most certainly is the guns.

Unless you can provide a link to a mass shooting that didn't involve a gun, or maybe show us where someone died from a gunshot wound when there were no guns involved.

I have never known of a gun shooting by its own choice. It always takes human interaction but far be it for some people to put all the blame on the human!

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but far be it for some people to put all the blame on the human!

Why do these humans not do this in every civilised country in the world ? OH sorry that is right - sensible Gun Control. It works.

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Re: Texas mass shooting
Reply #137 - May 9^th, 2023 at 10:37pm

Mortdooley wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 8:48pm:

Karnal wrote on May 8^th, 2023 at 12:27pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 8^th, 2023 at 3:14am:

Karnal wrote on May 8^th, 2023 at 12:19am:

Mortdooley wrote on May 7^th, 2023 at 11:27pm:

Karnal wrote on May 7^th, 2023 at 10:44pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 7^th, 2023 at 10:33pm:

A Mexican National murders five Honduran Nationals in Texas and somehow you want to blame people who demand a secure border. Many, many ills could be cured with a secure border. Actually it would be great if we could have a border that is not little more than lines on a map!

Oh, I see. Not guilty, eh?

They're tinted.

You do know it was illegal for the illegal alien from Mexico to possess a firearm, right?

That's unfair, Mort. What about your constitution?

You would know "what about the constitution" if you had ever read a 4473!

No no, I believe your constitution permits the right to bear arms, correct? It's a right so sacred and holy, it is believed to have been granted by Jesus Himself.

So I'm curious. Where would a gun owner's dual citizenship come into play? Are you seeking to deny a fellow soul's God-given rights?

So unfair. What right will you seek to deny next?

His parental rights? His right to identify as male? His right to vote Trump?

Christians aren't perfect, Mort, just forgiven.

You?

You don't know the difference between a Right and permission.

https://i.postimg.cc/v84Cp9yG/naturalrights.jpg

The difference between countries is that yours doesn't recognize basic human rights. Maybe it is because you were taught to bend the knee to your betters and we ran the British Empire out of our country!

That is most certainly true, Mort, but I'm curious.

Why are you trying to deny dual citizens the right to bear arms?

Who else do you deny?

Injuns? Negroids? Aliens? White trash?

Who?

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Re: Texas mass shooting
Reply #138 - May 9^th, 2023 at 10:40pm

Dnarever wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 10:06pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:24pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:19pm:

It isn't the guns, ...

Oh, it most certainly is the guns.

Unless you can provide a link to a mass shooting that didn't involve a gun, or maybe show us where someone died from a gunshot wound when there were no guns involved.

I have never known of a gun shooting by its own choice. It always takes human interaction but far be it for some people to put all the blame on the human!

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but far be it for some people to put all the blame on the human!

Why do these humans not do this in every civilised country in the world ? OH sorry that is right - sensible Gun Control. It works.

We deny all human citizens the right to unlicensed firearms, Dnarever.

It would seem Mort only wants to deny them to some humans.

You?

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Re: Texas mass shooting
Reply #139 - May 10^th, 2023 at 12:49am

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 10:37pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 8:48pm:

Karnal wrote on May 8^th, 2023 at 12:27pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 8^th, 2023 at 3:14am:

Karnal wrote on May 8^th, 2023 at 12:19am:

Mortdooley wrote on May 7^th, 2023 at 11:27pm:

Karnal wrote on May 7^th, 2023 at 10:44pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 7^th, 2023 at 10:33pm:

A Mexican National murders five Honduran Nationals in Texas and somehow you want to blame people who demand a secure border. Many, many ills could be cured with a secure border. Actually it would be great if we could have a border that is not little more than lines on a map!

Oh, I see. Not guilty, eh?

They're tinted.

You do know it was illegal for the illegal alien from Mexico to possess a firearm, right?

That's unfair, Mort. What about your constitution?

You would know "what about the constitution" if you had ever read a 4473!

No no, I believe your constitution permits the right to bear arms, correct? It's a right so sacred and holy, it is believed to have been granted by Jesus Himself.

So I'm curious. Where would a gun owner's dual citizenship come into play? Are you seeking to deny a fellow soul's God-given rights?

So unfair. What right will you seek to deny next?

His parental rights? His right to identify as male? His right to vote Trump?

Christians aren't perfect, Mort, just forgiven.

You?

You don't know the difference between a Right and permission.

https://i.postimg.cc/v84Cp9yG/naturalrights.jpg

The difference between countries is that yours doesn't recognize basic human rights. Maybe it is because you were taught to bend the knee to your betters and we ran the British Empire out of our country!

That is most certainly true, Mort, but I'm curious.

Why are you trying to deny dual citizens the right to bear arms?

Who else do you deny?

Injuns? Negroids? Aliens? White trash?

Who?

Your ignorance in this matter is overwhelming. You as a legal resident Alien of the United States could buy any firearm legal for the honest citizen to own. Legal residence is the key word here! I don't know what duel citizenship has to do with anything. Read the 4473 and understand it and then get back to me.

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Re: Texas mass shooting
Reply #140 - May 10^th, 2023 at 1:02pm

Mortdooley wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 12:49am:

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 10:37pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 8:48pm:

Karnal wrote on May 8^th, 2023 at 12:27pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 8^th, 2023 at 3:14am:

Karnal wrote on May 8^th, 2023 at 12:19am:

Mortdooley wrote on May 7^th, 2023 at 11:27pm:

Karnal wrote on May 7^th, 2023 at 10:44pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 7^th, 2023 at 10:33pm:

A Mexican National murders five Honduran Nationals in Texas and somehow you want to blame people who demand a secure border. Many, many ills could be cured with a secure border. Actually it would be great if we could have a border that is not little more than lines on a map!

Oh, I see. Not guilty, eh?

They're tinted.

You do know it was illegal for the illegal alien from Mexico to possess a firearm, right?

That's unfair, Mort. What about your constitution?

You would know "what about the constitution" if you had ever read a 4473!

No no, I believe your constitution permits the right to bear arms, correct? It's a right so sacred and holy, it is believed to have been granted by Jesus Himself.

So I'm curious. Where would a gun owner's dual citizenship come into play? Are you seeking to deny a fellow soul's God-given rights?

So unfair. What right will you seek to deny next?

His parental rights? His right to identify as male? His right to vote Trump?

Christians aren't perfect, Mort, just forgiven.

You?

You don't know the difference between a Right and permission.

https://i.postimg.cc/v84Cp9yG/naturalrights.jpg

The difference between countries is that yours doesn't recognize basic human rights. Maybe it is because you were taught to bend the knee to your betters and we ran the British Empire out of our country!

That is most certainly true, Mort, but I'm curious.

Why are you trying to deny dual citizens the right to bear arms?

Who else do you deny?

Injuns? Negroids? Aliens? White trash?

Who?

Your ignorance in this matter is overwhelming. You as a legal resident Alien of the United States could buy any firearm legal for the honest citizen to own. Legal residence is the key word here! I don't know what duel citizenship has to do with anything. Read the 4473 and understand it and then get back to me.

So why did you say it was illegal for the shooter to own a gun?

I'm curious.

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Re: Texas mass shooting
Reply #141 - May 10^th, 2023 at 2:10pm

Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 1:02pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 12:49am:

Karnal wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 10:37pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 8:48pm:

Karnal wrote on May 8^th, 2023 at 12:27pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 8^th, 2023 at 3:14am:

Karnal wrote on May 8^th, 2023 at 12:19am:

Mortdooley wrote on May 7^th, 2023 at 11:27pm:

Karnal wrote on May 7^th, 2023 at 10:44pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 7^th, 2023 at 10:33pm:

A Mexican National murders five Honduran Nationals in Texas and somehow you want to blame people who demand a secure border. Many, many ills could be cured with a secure border. Actually it would be great if we could have a border that is not little more than lines on a map!

Oh, I see. Not guilty, eh?

They're tinted.

You do know it was illegal for the illegal alien from Mexico to possess a firearm, right?

That's unfair, Mort. What about your constitution?

You would know "what about the constitution" if you had ever read a 4473!

No no, I believe your constitution permits the right to bear arms, correct? It's a right so sacred and holy, it is believed to have been granted by Jesus Himself.

So I'm curious. Where would a gun owner's dual citizenship come into play? Are you seeking to deny a fellow soul's God-given rights?

So unfair. What right will you seek to deny next?

His parental rights? His right to identify as male? His right to vote Trump?

Christians aren't perfect, Mort, just forgiven.

You?

You don't know the difference between a Right and permission.

https://i.postimg.cc/v84Cp9yG/naturalrights.jpg

The difference between countries is that yours doesn't recognize basic human rights. Maybe it is because you were taught to bend the knee to your betters and we ran the British Empire out of our country!

That is most certainly true, Mort, but I'm curious.

Why are you trying to deny dual citizens the right to bear arms?

Who else do you deny?

Injuns? Negroids? Aliens? White trash?

Who?

Your ignorance in this matter is overwhelming. You as a legal resident Alien of the United States could buy any firearm legal for the honest citizen to own. Legal residence is the key word here! I don't know what duel citizenship has to do with anything. Read the 4473 and understand it and then get back to me.

So why did you say it was illegal for the shooter to own a gun?

I'm curious.

Maybe time for a dirty sex tour, eh dirty old sex tourist? Satisfy some 'curiosities'?

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Re: Texas mass shooting
Reply #142 - May 10^th, 2023 at 7:30pm

The carnage just goes on:

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Louisiana teenager shot by neighbor as she played hide-and-seek. . . .

Data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show shootings are the leading killer of children and teens in the nation, surpassing motor vehicle accidents and other causes.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/09/louisiana-girl-hide-and-seek-sh...

Why are Americans so afraid. so paranoid?

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If you don’t like abortions ignore them like you do school shootings.

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Reply #143 - May 10^th, 2023 at 10:17pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 7:30pm:

The carnage just goes on:

Quote:

Louisiana teenager shot by neighbor as she played hide-and-seek. . . .

Data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show shootings are the leading killer of children and teens in the nation, surpassing motor vehicle accidents and other causes.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/09/louisiana-girl-hide-and-seek-sh...

Why are Americans so afraid. so paranoid?

With 350 million people 0.5% is enough to make a difference in many areas.

The more relevant question would be why are American politicians so corrupt. The number of nuts and paranoid people will exist irrespective.

The problem is the lack of will to solve the issue and that lack of will is directly related to political donations.

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Re: Texas mass shooting
Reply #144 - May 10^th, 2023 at 10:50pm

Dnarever wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 10:17pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 10^th, 2023 at 7:30pm:

The carnage just goes on:

Quote:

Louisiana teenager shot by neighbor as she played hide-and-seek. . . .

Data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show shootings are the leading killer of children and teens in the nation, surpassing motor vehicle accidents and other causes.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/09/louisiana-girl-hide-and-seek-sh...

Why are Americans so afraid. so paranoid?

With 350 million people 0.5% is enough to make a difference in many areas.

The more relevant question would be why are American politicians so corrupt. The number of nuts and paranoid people will exist irrespective.

The problem is the lack of will to solve the issue and that lack of will is directly related to political donations.

I know, right? One of Aquascoot's arguments was just that: America has enough people left alive to cope. Sure, guns might take out a few, but that's just a drop in the bucket. There's still plenty of people and livestock left to cope.

Culling a few chodes via a jolly mass shooting is no different to slaughtering the odd pig or turkey. The important thing is to preserve the arms industry. That's what makes America great.

Not agriculture or pharmaceuticals or patents or education, no. Food and drug companies kill. Knowledge is dangerous. But weapons preserve what's great about America:

DEATH.

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Re: Texas mass shooting
Reply #145 - May 11^th, 2023 at 12:12pm

Mortdooley wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:42pm:

I have never known of a gun shooting by its own choice. It always takes human interaction but far be it for some people to put all the blame on the human!

Bombs don't set themselves off either, neither do Tanks, canons or rocket launchers. I am sure that you think you made a point?

There is no record of a rocket launcher attack against a school not because nobody would do it but because the people who would do it do not have a rocket launcher. They have to resort to their easily accessed republican party sponsored AR15 rifles.

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Reply #146 - May 11^th, 2023 at 3:16pm

Mortdooley wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:24pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:19pm:

It isn't the guns, ...

Oh, it most certainly is the guns.

Unless you can provide a link to a mass shooting that didn't involve a gun, or maybe show us where someone died from a gunshot wound when there were no guns involved.

I have never known of a gun shooting by its own choice. It always takes human interaction but far be it for some people to put all the blame on the human!

"Stewart Rhodes, the founder of the right-wing Oath Keepers militia, has been found guilty of seditious conspiracy for his involvement in last year's attack on the US Capitol."

You know the guy - he has an eye patch.

You know why?

He dropped his gun and it went off on its own and shot him in the eye Grin

Impossible to suffer a gunshot wound if there's no gun involved Wink

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Re: Texas mass shooting
Reply #147 - May 11^th, 2023 at 3:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 3:16pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:24pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:19pm:

It isn't the guns, ...

Oh, it most certainly is the guns.

Unless you can provide a link to a mass shooting that didn't involve a gun, or maybe show us where someone died from a gunshot wound when there were no guns involved.

I have never known of a gun shooting by its own choice. It always takes human interaction but far be it for some people to put all the blame on the human!

"Stewart Rhodes, the founder of the right-wing Oath Keepers militia, has been found guilty of seditious conspiracy for his involvement in last year's attack on the US Capitol."

You know the guy - he has an eye patch.

You know why?

He dropped his gun and it went off on its own and shot him in the eye Grin

Impossible to suffer a gunshot wound if there's no gun involved Wink

Guns don't shoot people, Greggery. The ground did.

Besides, if Antifa weren't there tricking him into rioting, it would have been just another ordinary day at the Capitol.

DRAIN THE SWAMP!!!

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Re: Texas mass shooting
Reply #148 - May 11^th, 2023 at 5:47pm

Karnal wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 3:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 11^th, 2023 at 3:16pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:24pm:

Mortdooley wrote on May 9^th, 2023 at 9:19pm:

It isn't the guns, ...

Oh, it most certainly is the guns.

Unless you can provide a link to a mass shooting that didn't involve a gun, or maybe show us where someone died from a gunshot wound when there were no guns involved.

I have never known of a gun shooting by its own choice. It always takes human interaction but far be it for some people to put all the blame on the human!

"Stewart Rhodes, the founder of the right-wing Oath Keepers militia, has been found guilty of seditious conspiracy for his involvement in last year's attack on the US Capitol."

You know the guy - he has an eye patch.

You know why?

He dropped his gun and it went off on its own and shot him in the eye Grin

Impossible to suffer a gunshot wound if there's no gun involved Wink

Guns don't shoot people, Greggery. The ground did.

Besides, if Antifa weren't there tricking him into rioting, it would have been just another ordinary day at the Capitol.

DRAIN THE SWAMP!!!

Rhodes accidentally dropped his .22 caliber pistol and shot himself in the eye.

While this led to him using a prosthetic eyeball, he sometimes also chose to wear an eye patch, which distinguished him among the crowds at various political rallies (and insurrections).

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Re: Texas mass shooting
Reply #149 - May 12^th, 2023 at 1:17am

LOL... or not?

This interminable debate is likely to continue well into
the 22nd century!

On the one hand we have the paranoid, psychopathic,
American gung-ho, wannabe cowboys who're more than
happy to see thousands of people, including children,
killed or maimed each and every year by firearms.

On the other, we have the horrendous statistics of US
firearm deaths—and the rational, compassionate,
prudent individuals who demand a rewriting of the
ambiguous 2nd Amendment together with a firearms
amnesty that would see many of the 433.9 million
guns taken off US streets and out of homes.

I can only reiterate that I'm very happy to be living
in Australia, a country with sensible firearms laws,
zero mass shootings, and where one's ability to visit
a shopping mall is not overshadowed by the very real
risk of being shot by some insane defender of the Second.

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