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People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia (Read 42519 times)
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #165 - May 30th, 2023 at 3:27pm
 
I am not happy about the fact that many people of all ages (regardless of whether it is mainly the elderly and other people with health issues) are dying from something which is and was largely preventable by simple meaures such as wearing masks on planes, in airports and on public transport, etc.

And proper quarantine for overseas arrivals (too late for that now, of course).

I'm especially not happy about Covid infections of patients in hospitals and other healthcare settings where people are supposed to be safe.

The Australian Charter of Healthcare Rights states under Safety:

Be cared for in an environment that is safe and makes me feel safe

But, like the Health Acts of every Australian State and even an International Covenant that Australia is a signatory to (the sections regarding the control of epidemic and endemic diseases) this Charter is now ignored and not worth the paper it's written on anymore.

The gradual removal of Covid protections, starting with the removal of quarantine for overseas arrivals and ending with the removal of mandatory masks has been carefully planned and executed to make everyone (well, almost everyone) believe the pandemic is over and we're back in 2019 again.

Back to working and spending for the economy.

And nothing could be further from the truth as people are (slowly but surely) starting to realise.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #166 - May 30th, 2023 at 3:39pm
 
People with compromised immunity and the elderly should be very concerned about the possibility of catching covid19. And they should be just as worried about catching a common cold or influenza.

People who have a robust immune system or are not elderly should take care that the elderly or those with compromised immunity issues do not catch covid19 from them. Elevated hygiene practices should be in effect when you do catch a virus.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #167 - May 31st, 2023 at 1:02am
 
Carl D wrote on May 30th, 2023 at 3:27pm:
I am not happy about the fact that many people of all ages (regardless of whether it is mainly the elderly and other people with health issues) are dying from something which is and was largely preventable by simple meaures such as wearing masks on planes, in airports and on public transport, etc.

And proper quarantine for overseas arrivals (too late for that now, of course).

I'm especially not happy about Covid infections of patients in hospitals and other healthcare settings where people are supposed to be safe.

The Australian Charter of Healthcare Rights states under Safety:

Be cared for in an environment that is safe and makes me feel safe

But, like the Health Acts of every Australian State and even an International Covenant that Australia is a signatory to (the sections regarding the control of epidemic and endemic diseases) this Charter is now ignored and not worth the paper it's written on anymore.

The gradual removal of Covid protections, starting with the removal of quarantine for overseas arrivals and ending with the removal of mandatory masks has been carefully planned and executed to make everyone (well, almost everyone) believe the pandemic is over and we're back in 2019 again.

Back to working and spending for the economy.

And nothing could be further from the truth as people are (slowly but surely) starting to realise.


I am not happy when anyone dies from any illness. regardless if it was preventable or not. Consider smoking, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, or obesity issues. The illnesses related to these abuses, are the most preventable deaths in medicine. Yet we give these abuses lip-service, or make only token efforts to address them.

But when confronted with a micro-organism smaller than the wavelength of visible light, we make claims that by wearing cloth/paper masks, that if 26 million Australians always keep 2 meters apart, that if we routinely wash our hands, and if we keep taking viral- spike-producing vaccines repeatedly, that this will protect us from being infected. And, will stop the infection from spreading. The stats alone have proven that these measures have been totally ineffective and impractical. Even in an ideal world, these measures would still be impractical and impossible to police!

If the immune system has been compromised because of aging, or from other comorbidities, even the common cold could become fatal. Remember, all the vaccines in the world are useless without a healthy immune system. Also, over 70% of the elderly infected with Covid-19, have also recovered. Covid-19 is NOT a death sentence, even for the elderly.

The other important issue, is the suspension of our basic personal freedoms. The most important is our freedom of choice. Once any government can force you to be injected with anything that they tell you is okay, is truly crossing the line. You should be the only person to FREELY decide what can go into your body. Red flags should start flying, whenever your decisions are made under duress, fear, coercion(jab or job), or under the threat of being discriminated against. This can create a very dangerous slippery slope in the future!

Finally, we are not talking about Ebola, HIV, Rabies, or Dengue fever. We are talking about a flu-like virus with a Case Fatality Rate less than that of the Measles! No matter how many ways you want to frame or parrot the media's ever-changing narratives, these claims will NOT be supported OBJECTIVELY by the facts.


   
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #168 - May 31st, 2023 at 6:07am
 
Carl D wrote on May 30th, 2023 at 12:14pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 30th, 2023 at 9:47am:
Hi Carl

Did you really just say that kovid affects people and kills people regardless of their pre-existing level of health
If so you are a complete nincompoop


Yes... yes it does.

And, no... no I'm not.

Will there be anything else while I'm here?

I'll wait if you need to "consult" Dr. Gerrard again.



So you actually believe that your underlying health situation has no effect on how covid is going to affect you
Have you actually done anything except follow weird masking sites for the last 2 years

Your underlying health situation is the most important determinant of how you will cope with covid
And cope with it you will
Going down to Belmont plaza to go tisk tisk at all the unmasked people is going to result in you catching it eventually
Perhaps it's time to reconsider a new concept

I like to call it personal responsibility
Rare these days where it's much easier to just whine and be a sock on the internet
And now you've become a conspiracy theorist
Accusing doctors and nurses of reclassifying  kovid patients of actually being influenza patients

Time to get out of the weird rabbit hole you have gone down
You are further down the rabbit hole then sir ast nail
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #169 - May 31st, 2023 at 8:41am
 
The problem with the covid flu is that the knee jerk reactions around the world, controlled by investors, and the authoritarian control of corporate governments and media over the people has created a "boy who cried wolf" scenario.

Societies have lost faith in governments and media, and most now realise that governments and media are corporations who put a price tag on control.
Plain and simple, there will be anarchy should the corporate governments and media take this authoritarian control angle again.


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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #170 - May 31st, 2023 at 8:43am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 31st, 2023 at 6:07am:
Carl D wrote on May 30th, 2023 at 12:14pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 30th, 2023 at 9:47am:
Hi Carl

Did you really just say that kovid affects people and kills people regardless of their pre-existing level of health
If so you are a complete nincompoop


Yes... yes it does.

And, no... no I'm not.

Will there be anything else while I'm here?

I'll wait if you need to "consult" Dr. Gerrard again.



So you actually believe that your underlying health situation has no effect on how covid is going to affect you


That's not what he said.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #171 - May 31st, 2023 at 8:45am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on May 30th, 2023 at 3:39pm:
People with compromised immunity and the elderly should be very concerned about the possibility of catching covid19. And they should be just as worried about catching a common cold or influenza.

People who have a robust immune system or are not elderly should take care that the elderly or those with compromised immunity issues do not catch covid19 from them. Elevated hygiene practices should be in effect when you do catch a virus.


Proactive/precautionary practices minimises your risk of contracting many illnesses. Even Covid19.

This is an indisputable fundamental fact.

What IS at issue is this :

Defining 👉 “proactive/precautionary practices”

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #172 - May 31st, 2023 at 11:28am
 
Well, it looks like I've reached an impasse (again) with ShellShilo and aquascoot.

Just going around and around in circles repeating the same things we've been repeating for the past year or two.

Tell you what... let's just leave things as they are for now and how about you both get back to me in, say, 6 months time?

I promise I will do my best to avoid saying "I told you so".

Oh, aquascoot... while I'm here... I saw somewhere earlier this morning where someone was preparing a petition to the Federal government asking for mandatory masks to be reinstated in hospitals and all healthcare settings Australia wide.

I can't find it again at the moment but when I do I'll let you know just in case you and wife would like to sign it.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #173 - May 31st, 2023 at 1:19pm
 
Carl D wrote on May 31st, 2023 at 11:28am:
Well, it looks like I've reached an impasse (again) with ShellShilo and aquascoot.

Just going around and around in circles repeating the same things we've been repeating for the past year or two.

Tell you what... let's just leave things as they are for now and how about you both get back to me in, say, 6 months time?

I promise I will do my best to avoid saying "I told you so".

Oh, aquascoot... while I'm here... I saw somewhere earlier this morning where someone was preparing a petition to the Federal government asking for mandatory masks to be reinstated in hospitals and all healthcare settings Australia wide.

I can't find it again at the moment but when I do I'll let you know just in case you and wife would like to sign it.

Smiley



she will probably be too busy looking after entitled old hypochondriacs to sign it.

bring it in if they like,

they cant attract staff at the moment, so wearing a mask all day should see more early retirements.

and the young nurses have NO interest in cleaning up after the old demented incontient patients.

so looks like the government will have to start training nurses in voluntary assisted dying

oh wait

they are
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Reply #174 - May 31st, 2023 at 1:21pm
 
Implementation of voluntary assisted dying
The Voluntary Assisted Dying Act 2021 (the Act) was passed in September 2021. It became available to eligible Queenslanders on 1 January 2023.

Voluntary assisted dying is an additional end-of-life choice that gives eligible people who are suffering and dying the option of asking for medical assistance to end their lives.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #175 - May 31st, 2023 at 1:52pm
 
Carl D wrote on May 31st, 2023 at 11:28am:
Well, it looks like I've reached an impasse (again) with ShellShilo and aquascoot.

Just going around and around in circles repeating the same things we've been repeating for the past year or two.

Tell you what... let's just leave things as they are for now and how about you both get back to me in, say, 6 months time?

I promise I will do my best to avoid saying "I told you so".

Oh, aquascoot... while I'm here... I saw somewhere earlier this morning where someone was preparing a petition to the Federal government asking for mandatory masks to be reinstated in hospitals and all healthcare settings Australia wide.

I can't find it again at the moment but when I do I'll let you know just in case you and wife would like to sign it.

Smiley


Yes leave them as they are Cheesy LOL

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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #176 - May 31st, 2023 at 4:47pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 31st, 2023 at 1:19pm:
Carl D wrote on May 31st, 2023 at 11:28am:
Oh, aquascoot... while I'm here... I saw somewhere earlier this morning where someone was preparing a petition to the Federal government asking for mandatory masks to be reinstated in hospitals and all healthcare settings Australia wide.

I can't find it again at the moment but when I do I'll let you know just in case you and wife would like to sign it.

Smiley



she will probably be too busy looking after entitled old hypochondriacs to sign it.

bring it in if they like,

they cant attract staff at the moment, so wearing a mask all day should see more early retirements.

and the young nurses have NO interest in cleaning up after the old demented incontient patients.

so looks like the government will have to start training nurses in voluntary assisted dying

oh wait

they are


I'm sure you'll be pleased to learn that the petition didn't even get off the ground.

https://twitter.com/Mirella_PhD/status/1663789222137036802 (now deleted)

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Mandating Masks In Healthcare: I will be ENDING this campaign as I can't even get 100+  likes, let alone more than several supportive comments - Few care to even spend 1 second placing a like

No wonder Govts can let it rip


No wonder indeed.

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That’s because the vast majority of Westerners are Naive, Selfish, & Cavalier.


Yes, that's it. 100% correct.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #177 - May 31st, 2023 at 4:59pm
 
Carl D wrote on May 31st, 2023 at 4:47pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 31st, 2023 at 1:19pm:
Carl D wrote on May 31st, 2023 at 11:28am:
Oh, aquascoot... while I'm here... I saw somewhere earlier this morning where someone was preparing a petition to the Federal government asking for mandatory masks to be reinstated in hospitals and all healthcare settings Australia wide.

I can't find it again at the moment but when I do I'll let you know just in case you and wife would like to sign it.

Smiley



she will probably be too busy looking after entitled old hypochondriacs to sign it.

bring it in if they like,

they cant attract staff at the moment, so wearing a mask all day should see more early retirements.

and the young nurses have NO interest in cleaning up after the old demented incontient patients.

so looks like the government will have to start training nurses in voluntary assisted dying

oh wait

they are


I'm sure you'll be pleased to learn that the petition didn't even get off the ground.

https://twitter.com/Mirella_PhD/status/1663789222137036802

Quote:
Mandating Masks In Healthcare: I will be ENDING this campaign as I can't even get 100+  likes, let alone more than several supportive comments - Few care to even spend 1 second placing a like

No wonder Govts can let it rip


No wonder indeed.

Quote:
Jonathan Stollery
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That’s because the vast majority of Westerners are Naive, Selfish, & Cavalier.


Yes, that's it. 100% correct.


carl doesnt that tell you something
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Reply #178 - May 31st, 2023 at 5:14pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 31st, 2023 at 4:59pm:
carl doesnt that tell you something


Yes, it did.

The vast majority of Westerners are naive, selfish, & cavalier.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #179 - May 31st, 2023 at 5:19pm
 
Carl D wrote on May 31st, 2023 at 5:14pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 31st, 2023 at 4:59pm:
carl doesnt that tell you something


Yes, it did.

The vast majority of Westerners are naive, selfish, & cavalier.



no


it tells you that YOU are in the vast MINORITY

this is usually refered to as a cult
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