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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9617 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #360 - Aug 14^th, 2023 at 10:54am Just snagged this one from someone on Twitter... oops, X. Sums it all up perfectly.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #361 - Aug 14^th, 2023 at 11:13am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 5:29am:

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cognitive dissonance Geoff.
most medications have side effects,
and there is more under reporting then over reporting of these side effects.

busy doctors probably aren't going to do a lot of unpaid cumbersome paperwork every time someone gets muscle aches or a migraine or vomiting or a rash after taking something.
how would you know anyway unless you "look"

and where is the incentive for doctors and governments and drug companies to "look"

there isn't one

I was primarily pointing out the bullshit that
was Bobby's meme, rather than talking about
medications and/or their potential side effects.
He posted a claim that said there were 1,291
"side effects" from COVID vaccines.

And I agree; of course there are side effects
from many prescription drugs, but they all vary
in type, degree, and the person taking them.
And all CMI's clearly list them, so it's not as
though the doctors and/or the pharmaceutical
industry are trying to hide anything.

You also say that "there is more under reporting
than over reporting of these side effects". I've not
seen any evidence supporting this; it needs a citation.

The classic, current example is COVID vaccination:
Some people have no side effects. Many people
have reported side effects—such as headache,
fatigue, and soreness at the injection site—that
are generally mild to moderate and go away within
a few days.

Anaphylaxis after COVID vaccination is rare.
It has occurred at a rate of approximately 5 cases
per one million vaccine doses administered.
Most patients with myocarditis or pericarditis
after a COVID vaccination responded well to
medicine and rest and felt better quickly.
Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome
syndrome (TTS) has been rarely observed
after J&J/Janssen COVID vaccination and has
occurred in approximately 4 cases per one million
doses administered.

—https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #362 - Aug 14^th, 2023 at 12:01pm

Check it out. She got a dose of her own medicine Wink

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Mary-Louise McLaws: Disease expert who led Australia through the Covid pandemic dies after battle with illness

Mary-Louise McLaws, who dedicated her career to preventing diseases and led Australia through the Covid-19 pandemic, has died aged 70 after battling cancer.

Her husband, Richard Flook, announced she had died on Saturday night at Wolper Hospital in Sydney's Woollahra, saying 'Our dear Mary-Louise passed away in her sleep'.

Ms McLaws was a respected professor of epidemiologist, having worked for the World Health Organisation (WHO) as an advisor to China and aiding in disease control in 10 countries outside of Australia including Bangladesh, Cambodia and China.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12402167/Mary-Louise-McLaws-Disease-exp...

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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #363 - Aug 14^th, 2023 at 12:15pm

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 4:59am:

This absurd meme originated from a viral social media post:

      https://i.postimg.cc/Y9hvQwfM/9d21c578028511e4-1.jpg

FALSE: Pfizer vaccine has 1,291 side effects.

Explanation: This is not a list of side effects
caused by Pfizer's mRNA vaccine, but a list
of side effects that Pfizer has focused on and
sought in the reports that have reached them.

According to the report, no new health risks
from the vaccine were identified, and that
1,291 potential hazards were sought
but NOT found in the reports. Regarding
the stated conclusions, it is known that no
new risks or worrying information about side
effects were discovered.

These sorts of nonsensical, unevidenced and
misrepresentative memes are all too typical of
the sorts of bullshit that people like Frank, Bobby,
Sir Lastmail, Aquascoot, Wombat Woody,
Captain Caveman, et al believe without question.

   Sad really that in an allegedly
   scientifically-enlightened 21st
   century we seem to have so
   many education-resistant people
   —even those presented with
   sound, empirical evidence who
   still blindly soak up COVID
   denialism like a sponge.

The meme stands as correct:

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #364 - Aug 14^th, 2023 at 12:40pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 10:54am:

Just snagged this one from someone on Twitter... oops, X.

Sums it all up perfectly.

celebrating aussie sport
ie celebrating human flourishing.

aussies are great at a few things which we should be proud of

sport
mining
farming

well done albo
congratulate our heroes and ignore those who do nothing, risk nothing and produce nothing

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #365 - Aug 14^th, 2023 at 3:13pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 12:01pm:

Check it out. She got a dose of her own medicine Wink

That's pretty low.

Even for you.

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Mary-Louise McLaws, who dedicated her career to preventing diseases and led Australia through the Covid-19 pandemic, has died aged 70 after battling cancer.

Her husband, Richard Flook, announced she had died on Saturday night at Wolper Hospital in Sydney's Woollahra, saying 'Our dear Mary-Louise passed away in her sleep'.

You should be ashamed of yourself for posting a comment like that.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #366 - Aug 14^th, 2023 at 3:34pm

Ah, the good old days.

The front page of The West Australian on Tuesday June 29th 2021.

With another 16
pages of virus coverage inside.

At that stage we only had 9 Covid deaths in WA (might not have even been 9, I haven't checked. It was 9 when Mark McGowan finally caved in to big business and opened WA's border in March last year) and 3 Covid cases gets that sort of news coverage.

Just over 2 years later and we have this sh!tfest:

https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-summary/wa

Now there's not a word about it in the papers or on the TV news anymore except to occasionally say dumb things like "post Covid", "post pandemic", "after the pandemic" and "the pandemic is over".

And not a word about it from the pollies, of course.

What happened?

(No need for an answer - I already know it).

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #367 - Aug 14^th, 2023 at 3:56pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 12:40pm:

Carl D wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 10:54am:

Just snagged this one from someone on Twitter... oops, X.

Sums it all up perfectly.

celebrating aussie sport
ie celebrating human flourishing.

aussies are great at a few things which we should be proud of

sport
mining
farming

well done albo
congratulate our heroes and ignore those who do nothing, risk nothing and produce nothing

Yes, well done albo. Roll Eyes

I can just picture him right now getting measured up for one of these.

And working on his Bob Hawke accent so he can say (if the Matildas win the World Cup)...

"Any boss who sacks anyone for not turning up today is a bum"

Truly cringeworthy stuff.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106330 Melbourne Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #368 - Aug 14^th, 2023 at 4:17pm
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #369 - Aug 14^th, 2023 at 4:24pm

"AFRAID TO BREATH AIR"

Bobby... Bobby... Bobby...

I fixed that stupid meme for you and Sir Nail months ago and I was under the impression one or both of you had 'snagged' it for future use.

I haven't kept the corrected version because, quite frankly, I was hoping to never see it posted again. Silly me. Embarrassed

And I really don't have the time or the inclination to fix it again at the moment even though it would only take me a few minutes to do it.

Very disappointed I am. Cry

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #370 - Aug 14^th, 2023 at 4:30pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 4:24pm:

"AFRAID TO BREATH AIR"

Bobby... Bobby... Bobby...

I fixed that stupid meme for you and Sir Nail months ago and I was under the impression one or both of you had 'snagged' it for future use.

I haven't kept the corrected version because, quite frankly, I was hoping to never see it posted again. Silly me. Embarrassed

And I really don't have the time or the inclination to fix it again at the moment even though it would only take me a few minutes to do it.

Very disappointed I am. Cry

Breathe not breath - OK OK.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106330 Melbourne Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #371 - Aug 14^th, 2023 at 4:31pm
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #372 - Aug 14^th, 2023 at 6:08pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 3:13pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 12:01pm:

Check it out. She got a dose of her own medicine Wink

That's pretty low.

Even for you.

Quote:

Mary-Louise McLaws, who dedicated her career to preventing diseases and led Australia through the Covid-19 pandemic, has died aged 70 after battling cancer.

Her husband, Richard Flook, announced she had died on Saturday night at Wolper Hospital in Sydney's Woollahra, saying 'Our dear Mary-Louise passed away in her sleep'.

You should be ashamed of yourself for posting a comment like that.

blow it out of your arse hypocrite !! She forced this experimental shite onto others so what goes around comes around.

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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #373 - Aug 15^th, 2023 at 5:11am

Mushroom Roulette again?

My cardio is looking into why I had sudden heart failure.... heart arteries more or less collapsed ... not long after the 4th shot.

Sh-sh-she turned m-m-m-me into a n-n-n-n-n-newt! ................................... It got better!!

Anyone else sick of people being made heroes when they were blundering in the dark? They gave the Lady Of The Corona Princess - NSW 'chief health officer' who stuffed it - a medal, along with the dork 'health minister'!!

Arse covering of the finest vintage....

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #374 - Aug 15^th, 2023 at 6:12am

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 6:08pm:

Carl D wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 3:13pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 14^th, 2023 at 12:01pm:

Check it out. She got a dose of her own medicine Wink

That's pretty low.

Even for you.

Quote:

Mary-Louise McLaws, who dedicated her career to preventing diseases and led Australia through the Covid-19 pandemic, has died aged 70 after battling cancer.
Her husband, Richard Flook, announced she had died on Saturday night at Wolper Hospital in Sydney's Woollahra, saying 'Our dear Mary-Louise passed away in her sleep'.

You should be ashamed of yourself for posting a comment like that.

blow it out of your arse hypocrite !! She forced this experimental shite onto others so what goes around comes around.

This is a truly disrespectful and offensive
comment for anybody to have made.

McLaws had absolutely nothing to do with
whether or not people chose to be vaccinated,
and in actuality was a voice of medical logic
and reassuring calmness in the quagmire of
clamorous media reporting and anti- vaccination
bullshit—like all the ignorant crap you've
posted here over the months.

You've really exposed yourself as the hateful,
shallow-minded, loathsome little man you are.

In fact—ironically—if you'd taken her advice
in the early days of the pandemic, instead of
stubbornly refusing the vaccine, you would've
in all likelihood avoided being infected with COVID.
Unlike those of us who wisely chose to be vaccinated,
and avoided any potentially serious illnesses
or even death.

In short you're a dickhead mate. Roll Eyes

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