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People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia (Read 38123 times)
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #660 - May 24th, 2024 at 3:43pm
 
Carl D wrote on May 24th, 2024 at 10:14am:
And, yes.... masks DO work.


So does covering your face when you cough and sneeze. So why are the people practicing these safety protocols still being infected? Do you really believe that 26M Australians can keep 2 meters apart ALL THE TIME? Or, that wearing a cloth/paper mask will prevent a virus from infecting you ALL THE TIME? Do you think that being vaccinated will prevent infection? I'm afraid the stats disagree with you.

Do all mask fit perfectly?
Can light pass through your mask?
Do you need to take off your mask to eat, drink, sleep, etc.?
Do you sometimes breathe in air through the sides of your mask?
Do you always practice safe hygiene with your mask?
Are the pore size in mask smaller/larger than the coronavirus?
Can the coronavirus enter the body via the eyes?
Does 95% protection also mean 5% unprotected?

If people want to believe that this flu-like illness is as dangerous as Rabies, that's  their business.
If people want to take multiple designer vaccines for the rest of their life, again that's their business.
If people want to ignore the 99% recovery rates, and focus only on the daily numbers of infections and death, that's their business.
If people want to ignore the excluded facts(comorbidities, age, immunocompromised, etc.) and believe only in the manufactured fear/hype, thats their business.
If people want to use government experts as a substitute for common sense, again it is none of my business.

However it becomes my business, when MY liberties/privacy are suspended. And, I am forced/coerced to become part of this mass hysteria. About a disease that is less fatal than the measles. To take an unlimited number of vaccines or lose your job.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_disease_case_fatality_rates

Sorry, there are just too many red flags to ignore the obvious.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #661 - May 24th, 2024 at 4:30pm
 
ShellShilo wrote on May 24th, 2024 at 3:43pm:
Carl D wrote on May 24th, 2024 at 10:14am:
And, yes.... masks DO work.

So does covering your face when you cough and sneeze. So why are the people practicing these safety protocols still being infected?


It's not 100% effective 100% of the time - that's why.

However, even 50% effective 50% of the time is better than nothing.

Wouldn't you agree?
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Reply #662 - May 24th, 2024 at 4:33pm
 
ShellShilo wrote on May 24th, 2024 at 2:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 24th, 2024 at 10:25am:
ShellShilo wrote on May 22nd, 2024 at 9:29pm:
It is mindless arrogance and ignorance, to think that man can stop a virus from infecting him.


You seen many cases of Polio lately?



There have been 3 cases of Polio in the US since 2000.


Thank you.

So your answer is a resounding 'no'.

I rest my case.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #663 - May 24th, 2024 at 8:54pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 22nd, 2024 at 5:57pm:
these data are corrupted as the drug companies make a fortune off anti covid drugs and nothing off anti influenza drugs.
hence they corrupt the researchers.

who pays the piper calls the tune Roll Eyes

ask any none who has had covid recently how it was


"sore throat, sniffles and tired for 48 hrs"

a mild respiratory virus  Wink


Your "mild respiratory virus" has been responsible for another 37 deaths in Australian aged care this week.

And another massive increase in cases since last week.

40 deaths last week. 37 deaths this week.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1793880309609779565

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COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 23 May 2024

🔹Active cases: 3,687 (+609)
🔹Active outbreaks: 416 (+47)
🔹Residents: 2,532 (+384)
🔹Staff: 1,155 (+225)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 425 (+37)


https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1793880311962685662

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🔸6,551 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸425 reported deaths in 2024


Plus who knows how many more deaths outside of aged care due to our governments no longer reporting those deaths. Or only reporting them monthly (usually in some obscure, hard to find location on their Health Department websites).

Disgraceful stuff.

It's about time we had mandatory (high quality) masks in aged care facilities (also in hospitals and all health care facilities) don't you think?

And... (see attached screenshot)... with 3 elderly Australians dying from Covid every day at the moment... yes, it is sociopathic.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #664 - May 24th, 2024 at 11:20pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 24th, 2024 at 4:33pm:
Thank you.

So your answer is a resounding 'no'.

I rest my case.


Did you look at my references at all? There are over 600 cases in countries like Afghanistan and Pakistan. But I agree that in modern industrialized countries, cases are very rare.


greggerypeccary wrote on May 24th, 2024 at 4:30pm:
It's not 100% effective 100% of the time - that's why.

However, even 50% effective 50% of the time is better than nothing.

Wouldn't you agree?


Yes, I would certainly agree. NOTHING is 100% effective 100% of the time. So, are you  saying that wearing a mask is better than nothing? And, that the reason people are still being infected is because masks are NOT 100% effective 100% of the time? The real question is WHY NOT? Just how effective are they? Do you think that our immune system really needs the help of a designer drug to fight this virus?

We were first told that wearing a mask would protect us from this virus. Then we were told that not always. We were told that the new man-made vaccine would protect us from the virus. Then, that  the vaccine would just lessen the severity of the illness. We were told that if we were vaccinated we would not die from the virus. Finally, we were told that if we just keep taking boosters shots indefinately, we would be protected for life.

Clearly people only see and believe what they want to see and believe. Even when the stats consistantly showed a 99% recovery/survival rate(vaccinated or not), it was ignored. Only the daily numbers of infected and deaths were sensationalized all over the media. Covid-19 had reached "star status".

Everyone in my family(except me) has had Covid-19. And, not one of them even knew it(testing kit).    

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #665 - May 25th, 2024 at 10:19am
 
Spot on as always, Henry.

https://x.com/RageSheen/status/1794070008584339737

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The hilarious perversity of articles trying to figure out how many infections are happening, in a pandemic, with an absent testing regime.

Like a realty show where weather forecasts are made by meteorologists isolated on a desert island.


COVID cases are rising across Australia. Here's what we know about the new variant: FLiRT

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As the weather gets colder, a family of highly transmissible COVID-19 subvariants has been detected in Australia.

The family, nicknamed FLiRT, is not as playful as it sounds and has been the key contributor to rising case numbers and hospitalisations across the country.

Here's a look at how many case numbers have been reported in Australia and whether this new variant is a cause for concern.


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Getting an idea of official figures is difficult because fewer people now test and register their cases.


"fewer people" = almost no one. Same as the number of people wearing masks these days.

And also because you can only register PCR tests (no RAT's) for nearly a year now in all States. If you can actually get a PCR test, of course.

I wonder how much longer our useless pollies can keep up the charade that Covid isn't a problem anymore and it's now just like any other respiratory illness? And trying to ignore it?
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #666 - May 26th, 2024 at 1:47am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 24th, 2024 at 10:25am:
ShellShilo wrote on May 22nd, 2024 at 9:29pm:
It is mindless arrogance and ignorance, to think that man can stop a virus from infecting him.


You seen many cases of Polio lately?



https://x.com/RageSheen/status/1794261893965873584

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In the heady days after WW2, when rebuilding societies rather than accumulating wealth in existing status hierarchies was central to our societies, we took real joy in defeating infectious disease.


Yep.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #667 - May 26th, 2024 at 6:38am
 
carl , you still dont get it


polio was a life changing disease . polio affected out most valuable people, our children

of course we should fight it

covid changes your life in that you might have to buy a box of tissues

if you do die from it, you are, as you admit, almost certainly in gods waiting room in a nursing home and you probably think of covid as a gift that allows you to drift off painlessly

we used to call respiratory infections "the old mans friend"

when did we develop such incredible attachment to am almost  life that is decaying and miserable
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Reply #668 - May 26th, 2024 at 6:42am
 
you can fight mother nature and you will lose but only 100 % of the time


The term “old man’s friend” is often used when referring to pneumonia. The term is attributed to William Osler, who in the first edition of his book The Principles and Practice of Medicine (1892) wrote:

In children and in healthy adults the outlook is good. In the debilitated, in drunkards and in the aged the chances are against recovery. So fatal is it in the latter class [i.e. the elderly] that it has been termed the natural end of the old man
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Reply #669 - May 26th, 2024 at 9:44am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 6:38am:
carl , you still dont get it


With steadily mounting evidence that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) can cause long term damage to multiple organs - brain, heart, lungs, etc. and even death in children and young adults, especially after multiple infections it would appear you are the one who still doesn't "get it".

Here's just one example of what "Long Covid" is doing to the world's population. From the UK:

Long Covid rates hit TWO MILLION as Tories ramp up the war on disabled and chronically ill people

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New government statistics have confirmed what millions of people already knew. Specifically, this was that cases of long Covid across the UK are rampant and ever on the rise – now up to two million people. Of course, for people living the daily realities of this devastating chronic illness especially, the news didn’t come as a surprise.


You need to stop listening to people like this incompetent buffoon:

CHO defends long-Covid stance, says virus becoming ‘unexceptional’

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Queensland’s CHO has doubled down on calls to scrap the term “long Covid,” saying the scientific community was “hotly debating” whether Covid continues to be classed as an exceptional virus.


(The rest is paywalled as usual for The Courier Mail but you get the idea).

aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 6:38am:
if you do die from it, you are, as you admit, almost certainly in gods waiting room in a nursing home and you probably think of covid as a gift that allows you to drift off painlessly


I have admitted nothing of the sort. And you know it.
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Reply #670 - May 26th, 2024 at 12:51pm
 
Last night, I sat in the car after work. I used my phone for 10 minutes to surf the internet. Then I fell asleep. The next thing I know, it was 11pm. I had been asleep for an hour in my car. I woke up sufficiently to drive home. Once I pulled in to the driveway, I shut off the engine and then fell asleep in my driver's seat again. I woke up 2 hours later at 1 am. I went upstairs and got in to bed. I fell asleep at 1:30am. Woke up at 8 in the morning.

Those people who have suffered covid, have they ever had the symptoms of the sudden need to fall asleep during their illness? I don't seem to have this problem when I have the common cold.
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Reply #671 - May 26th, 2024 at 1:21pm
 
Carl D wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 9:44am:
aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 6:38am:
carl , you still dont get it


With steadily mounting evidence that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) can cause long term damage to multiple organs - brain, heart, lungs, etc. and even death in children and young adults, especially after multiple infections it would appear you are the one who still doesn't "get it".

Here's just one example of what "Long Covid" is doing to the world's population. From the UK:

Long Covid rates hit TWO MILLION as Tories ramp up the war on disabled and chronically ill people

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New government statistics have confirmed what millions of people already knew. Specifically, this was that cases of long Covid across the UK are rampant and ever on the rise – now up to two million people. Of course, for people living the daily realities of this devastating chronic illness especially, the news didn’t come as a surprise.


You need to stop listening to people like this incompetent buffoon:

CHO defends long-Covid stance, says virus becoming ‘unexceptional’

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Queensland’s CHO has doubled down on calls to scrap the term “long Covid,” saying the scientific community was “hotly debating” whether Covid continues to be classed as an exceptional virus.


(The rest is paywalled as usual for The Courier Mail but you get the idea).

aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 6:38am:
if you do die from it, you are, as you admit, almost certainly in gods waiting room in a nursing home and you probably think of covid as a gift that allows you to drift off painlessly


I have admitted nothing of the sort. And you know it.



you certainly HAVE admitted "the above"

all you do is quote death statistics for nursing homes. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

gods waiting room

time to lose the death anxiety and embrace your and my destiny
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Reply #672 - May 26th, 2024 at 11:30pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 1:21pm:
all you do is quote death statistics for nursing homes. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yes.

And do you know why?

Because they are the only Covid death statistics our governments are releasing weekly these days. South Australia reports all other Covid deaths monthly (for now) and I don't know if the other States and Territories are reporting them at all anymore. Doesn't look like it.

Aged care deaths are reported weekly for the time being, at least. As these deaths tragically increase I'm almost certain these aged care deaths will not be reported for much longer. But the deaths will continue... including all of the deaths that are still happening weekly outside of aged care but are no longer being reported.

Even Covid deaths in hospitals are not being recorded anymore. Here's the latest in this dystopian Covid nightmare we're now living in:

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1794502720482889929

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South Australia: "Patients who went to hospital for one thing, then died of COVID will never be known according to SA Health as records were never kept"


The only State that was keeping records of Covid deaths in hospitals (or reporting them at least) was Victoria where there was a 10% fatality rate - 10% of people who caught Covid in Victoria's hospitals died but I'm betting they've now stopped keeping records as well.

Hopefully it still won't be enough to stop the lawsuits from the families of those who died - which I'm sure are on the way.
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Reply #673 - May 27th, 2024 at 5:18am
 
dystopian covid nightmare  Grin Grin Grin Grin

thats YOUR  nightmare carl and totally of your own creation.

if you think about covid 24/7  you become covid

if you think about trumps sex life 24/7 you become obsessed

if you think about anything over and over, you deepen the grooves in your mind, like a cart going over a muddy road again and again and again

want to stop covid affecting you?

stop thinking about it

this is the EXACT reason the wise medical authorities sanctioned DR BERGER (your hero)

because his obsession is having a negative effect on people, as is yours



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Reply #674 - May 27th, 2024 at 7:10am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 5:18am:
dystopian covid nightmare  Grin Grin Grin Grin

thats YOUR  nightmare carl and totally of your own creation.


Saw a comment on X (formerly Twitter) the other day from someone who's medical issues meant that if they caught Covid they could possibly die.

Oh, and there's many, many people like that, by the way. The same people (like the elderly) who were told by our lying, spineless governments that they would be protected when the borders opened and Covid was unleashed on the population.

Anyway, this medically vulnerable person said on X that it might have been better if Covid had turned out to be a zombie apocalypse because then it would have been easier to see and avoid the infected when out shopping, etc.

Because - at the moment - for every maskless person with a hacking cough, sneezing, runny nose, etc. walking around in crowded public places (and there's LOTS of them) there's probably one or two more who are infected but not yet showing symptoms. But they're still potentially infecting others.

Not just with Covid, but with the flu, RSV and whatever else is 'doing the rounds' right now.

And that could only be described as a massive (deliberate) public health messaging failure by our governments.
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