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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #690 - May 30^th, 2024 at 2:14am

aquascoot wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 5:44pm:

Carl D wrote on May 29^th, 2024 at 1:09pm:

Anyone else care to have a go at this because, quite frankly, I am (once again) sick and tired of going around in circles with the same tired old discussions we've been going through for years.

I'll finish up by saying "you do you" and we'll see how things are going with Covid in a year or so (assuming our cowardly, pathetic governments don't even take the most basic steps to slow down the spread of this virus - and I'm sure they won't).

No one is asking for lockdowns or border closures but things like masks in hospitals, aged care and all other healthcare settings would make a big difference like they did before governments were obviously pressured into removing them - same as they were pressured into removing masks on planes, in airports, public transport and lastly in hospitals and healthcare.

Let's see how many healthy people are left in Australia (and worldwide) in about 5 years time if the current rate of Covid infections and reinfections isn't reduced. The pollies' precious economy will be up the creek without a paddle when that happens.

Assuming "bird flu" doesn't take out half of the population first, of course. And I'm sure our pathetic pollies will be doing their best to try and convince everyone that it's "just a cold"... until it's too late to stop it.

totally agree

but the root cause is maccas, crispy creme, kfc and the coca cola corporation.
nothing to do with a mild cold virus Roll Eyes

You keep saying that over and over.

So, I'll ask you now - do you have any proof that SARS-CoV-2 is now just a "mild cold virus"?

And by proof I mean actual scientifically/medically verified proof?

Not this sort of "proof", by the way (we'll have to check up on Gordon in a few months time and see if he still holds that view - especially if he has a few more infections in the meantime).

By the way - "hitting the gym" is probably one of the worst things you can do right after a Covid infection, especially if you already have heart issues (even if you don't know you have them).

When can I return to exercise after COVID? (one of many articles on the subject).

As someone who has been affected by Long Covid said on X (formerly Twitter) the other day - it's about time the burden of proof was shifted to the people who are claiming this virus is now nothing more than "just a cold".

I won't be holding my breath waiting for that proof. Meanwhile, there is more and more proof (and that's real proof) that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is most definitely not "just a cold" and never has been and probably never will.

So, I'll just sit back and wait for you to post a link or links to real proof that this virus is now "just a mild respiratory illness" or "just a cold".

Take as much time as you need, I'll wait.

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34273 Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #691 - May 30^th, 2024 at 11:36am up at 1.14 am still experiencing terror over a mild respiratory virus? carl, you need treatment for anxiety and insomnia far more then a 7th vaccine
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136337 Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #692 - May 30^th, 2024 at 12:09pm aquascoot wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 11:36am: up at 1.14 am still experiencing terror over a mild respiratory virus? carl, you need treatment for anxiety and insomnia far more then a 7th vaccine It was 12.14am. "Reply #690 - Today at 12:14am" Pretty normal. You go to bed at 7:30, do you?
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #693 - May 30^th, 2024 at 12:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 12:09pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 11:36am:

up at 1.14 am still experiencing terror over a mild respiratory virus?

carl, you need treatment for anxiety and insomnia far more then a 7th vaccine

It was 12.14am.

"Reply #690 - Today at 12:14am"

Pretty normal.

You go to bed at 7:30, do you?

go get yourself a dementia screen moron Grin

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #694 - May 30^th, 2024 at 1:56pm

aquascoot wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 12:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 12:09pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 11:36am:

up at 1.14 am still experiencing terror over a mild respiratory virus?

carl, you need treatment for anxiety and insomnia far more then a 7th vaccine

It was 12.14am.

"Reply #690 - Today at 12:14am"

Pretty normal.

You go to bed at 7:30, do you?

go get yourself a dementia screen moron Grin

I can tell the time. Sadly, you can't.

Maybe you should go to bed at 7pm tonight - seems like you need the extra sleep.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 45888 Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #695 - May 30^th, 2024 at 4:08pm That Perth time?
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #696 - May 30^th, 2024 at 5:00pm

Hi JM.

Hi Greg.

Yep, I made that post at 12:14am this morning Perth time. I often stay up late these days.

Just popping in to see if aquascoot has found any verifiable proof that SARS-CoV-2 is now a "mild respiratory virus".

I'm guessing this is what he's come up with so far - and I'm sure it's (probably more than) a bit like his mind actually.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #697 - May 30^th, 2024 at 6:18pm

Carl D wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 5:00pm:

Hi JM.

Hi Greg.

Yep, I made that post at 12:14am this morning Perth time. I often stay up late these days.

Just popping in to see if aquascoot has found any verifiable proof that SARS-CoV-2 is now a "mild respiratory virus".

I'm guessing this is what he's come up with so far - and I'm sure it's (probably more than) a bit like his mind actually.

sure

its mild

if it was not mild , people would be having vaccine 7 by now

a few hypochondriacs probably are Grin

but 99.9 % of australians have stopped getting vaccinated for this "common cold"

this is called the wisdom of the crowd.

stay up til the wee hours of the morning reading dr bergers tweets and living down your rabbit hole of hypochondria

the rest of the population arent going to join you no matter how much you scaremonger Embarrassed

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #698 - May 30^th, 2024 at 6:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 12:09pm:

aquascoot wrote on May 30^th, 2024 at 11:36am:

up at 1.14 am still experiencing terror over a mild respiratory virus?

carl, you need treatment for anxiety and insomnia far more then a 7th vaccine

It was 12.14am.

"Reply #690 - Today at 12:14am"

Pretty normal.

You go to bed at 7:30, do you?

He needs to get an early start every day to deal with all the 'shenanigans' going on at his little farm in Nowheresville, Outback Queensland (population: still 10).

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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9283 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #699 - May 31^st, 2024 at 5:32am 3:32am here in Perth. Just woke up and I've decided to fire up the PC to check and see if aquascoot has found any proof that Covid is now just a "mild respiratory virus". Nah, didn't think so. Back to bed... be back later.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #700 - May 31^st, 2024 at 2:42pm

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COVID-19 mortality

In 2022:
There were 9,859 deaths due to COVID-19 registered in Australia (27.1 deaths per 100,000 people).

For those who died from COVID-19:

Their median age at death was 85.8 years. This is higher than the median age at death for all-cause mortality which was 82.2 years.

Cardiac conditions were the most commonly reported pre-existing conditions and were present in 33.0% of COVID-19 deaths in 2022.

For those who died with COVID-19 as a contributory condition:

The most common underlying cause of death was Dementia, including Alzheimer’s disease (489 deaths).
The median age at death was 83.8 years.

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/causes-death-australia/202...

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #701 - May 31^st, 2024 at 3:50pm

Carl D wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 5:32am:

3:32am here in Perth.

Just woke up and I've decided to fire up the PC to check and see if aquascoot has found any proof that Covid is now just a "mild respiratory virus".

Nah, didn't think so.

Back to bed... be back later.

He's too upset today.

The orange rapist has been found guilty on all 34 charges in the hush money trial.

It'll take some time for his cult members to get over that.

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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9283 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia Reply #702 - May 31^st, 2024 at 5:36pm greggerypeccary wrote on May 31^st, 2024 at 3:50pm: He's too upset today. The orange rapist has been found guilty on all 34 charges in the hush money trial. It'll take some time for his cult members to get over that. Oh, and aquascoot... next time you're here (no hurry):
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #703 - May 31^st, 2024 at 6:02pm

Anyway... while we're waiting here's this week's proof that SARS-CoV-2 still isn't "just a cold".

Another 29 Covid deaths in Australian aged care. Outbreaks and cases are still on the increase.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1796435022876168600

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COVID-19 outbreaks in Australian residential aged care facilities: 30 May 2024

🔹Active cases: 4,238 (+606)
🔹Active outbreaks: 469 (+76)
🔹Residents: 2,927 (+430)
🔹Staff: 1,311 (+176)
🔹Reported deaths in 2024: 454 (+29)

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1796435025296335111

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🔸6,580 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸454 reported deaths in 2024

I don't know how many Covid deaths there were outside of aged care due to most State/Territory governments not reporting anymore or just reporting monthly but the ACT had another 4 deaths this week:

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1796426900178706469

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ACT weekly COVID update: 24 May to 30 May

🔹PCR cases only: 242 (+52.2%)
🔹Deaths: 4 (+4)
🔹Total deaths: 316 (+4)
🔹Hospital: 67 (+139.2%)
🔹ICU: 0 (+0)
🔹Vent: 0 (+0)

Also...

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1796410694403043646

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"Vic hospitals moved to Stage Two response, allowing them to demand visitors, staff wear masks." By Mandy Squires

Monkeypox and measles outbreaks too. Wow. Shocked

And...

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1796365033070567579

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"South Australia's entire public hospital system is operating under an internal emergency with long patient wait times and delayed elective surgeries."

🔹270 staff currently off sick with COVID

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-30/sa-public-hospitals-in-internal-emergency...

Ignoring Covid and/or pretending that it's now "just a cold" sure is going real well, isn't it?

And, just for aquascoot - from the esteemed Dr. David Berger (I like the reply by Dr. Rebecca Michalak).

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Reply #704 - May 31^st, 2024 at 11:05pm

Around 60% of victims of the SARS-CoV-2 virus are asymptomatic during the entire course of the infection. This means they get infected and recover without showing any symptoms at all. 80% of those who are symptomatic report only mild to moderate symptoms. This is true worldwide! Even in people over 60, 33% were asymptomatic.

Most people who succomb to this disease were also fighting other serious chronic illnesses. It is these comorbidities, and the condition of the immune system, that will determine the severity and outcome of this disease. Remember, it would be an evolutionary disadvantage for any virus to kill its host. The longer the host is around, the more hosts the virus can infect.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/12/14/covid-symptoms-40-coronavirus-cases-asymptomatic-study-finds/6495693001/

In fact, studies have now shown that people who have had the common cold, can be asyptomatic to this virus. This is because exposure to the common cold can produce a variant of the HLA gene(HLA-B15).

"This gene codes for a protein that helps the immune system identify SARS-CoV-2 and other coronaviruses such as the common cold.".

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2023-07-20/asymptomatic-covid-19-linked-to-hla-gene-variant-common-cold/102619476

Many people have the common cold to thank for being asymptomatic to this virus. So, for them the symptoms from this virus is even LESS than the common cold. Remember asymptomatic is NOT the same as presymptomatic.

Every member of my family was infected with this virus(except me). If I hadn't tested them, they would never had known they were even infected. Is this a terrible virulent disease? Is Covid-19 a death sentence for most people? For over 90% of those infected, absolutely not! And, 60% don't even know they have it.

It is none of my business what others choose to do with their own bodies. But there were just too many red flags for me to just jump on board for the common good. Being forced or coerced by the government, is the biggest red flag of them all.

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