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People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia (Read 38112 times)
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #705 - Jun 1st, 2024 at 10:05am
 
Nice try, Professor Hanmer.

https://x.com/GeoffHanmer/status/1796408562677387760

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Look, this is simple and I am typing this slowly. @AlboMP
unless your mate Mark does something about reducing COVID transmission in the community, your mate Chalmers is going to have a whopping blowout in his health budget, more people will die and your government will be toast.


(Mark Butler and Jim Chalmers)

Unfortunately, simple and slowly is still too much for these useless pollies to understand.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #706 - Jun 1st, 2024 at 10:23am
 
But, as bad as Covid is right now I have this feeling something a lot worse is coming.

A third U.S. farmworker infected with bird flu is the first to experience respiratory symptoms

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A third human case of H5 bird flu tied to the ongoing U.S. outbreak in cattle has been detected in a farmworker in Michigan, state health authorities confirmed on Thursday.

The unnamed individual worked on a dairy farm and was in close contact with infected cows, the state health department said in a statement. The farm involved is different from the one where an earlier human case was detected last week.

“With this case, respiratory symptoms occurred after direct exposure to an infected cow,” Natasha Bagdasarian, chief medical executive of the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services, said in a statement. The individual was not wearing protective equipment, she said.


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The significance of respiratory symptoms relates to the possibility of onward spread. In people, influenza transmits via the respiratory route. A person with flu virus in their airways could be more likely to spread the virus — if the virus has the capacity to transmit between humans — than a person with an infection in their eye.


And with a maskless, clueless population and zero messaging from governments this isn't going to be a lot of fun - especially if this virus maintains it's current 50% fatality rate.

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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #707 - Jun 1st, 2024 at 3:48pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jun 1st, 2024 at 10:23am:
But, as bad as Covid is right now I have this feeling something a lot worse is coming.

A third U.S. farmworker infected with bird flu is the first to experience respiratory symptoms

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A third human case of H5 bird flu tied to the ongoing U.S. outbreak in cattle has been detected in a farmworker in Michigan, state health authorities confirmed on Thursday.

The unnamed individual worked on a dairy farm and was in close contact with infected cows, the state health department said in a statement. The farm involved is different from the one where an earlier human case was detected last week.

“With this case, respiratory symptoms occurred after direct exposure to an infected cow,” Natasha Bagdasarian, chief medical executive of the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services, said in a statement. The individual was not wearing protective equipment, she said.


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The significance of respiratory symptoms relates to the possibility of onward spread. In people, influenza transmits via the respiratory route. A person with flu virus in their airways could be more likely to spread the virus — if the virus has the capacity to transmit between humans — than a person with an infection in their eye.


And with a maskless, clueless population and zero messaging from governments this isn't going to be a lot of fun - especially if this virus maintains it's current 50% fatality rate.



Are you saying that you know more about this virus than almost the entire population? That we all should go back into medical bondage and global isolation indefinitely? Just because you feel that social repression is the only way to stop this virus from infecting people(it didn't)? And, to protect society AT ANY COST!! You do realize that we can, and do medically treat this virus directly!

Our elderly and infirmed will continue to die from colds, flus, covid-19, and many other chronic illnesses. And, there is not much anyone can do, except to make them more comfortable. If their immune system is compromised, all the vaccines in the world won't help.

It is intellectually dishonest and hypocritical to expect others to answer your questions and defend their position, when you simply ignore/dismiss their questions and concerns. Is your position just too weak to defend?

Even the government realizes that it can't keep manufacturing fear indefinitely. As more and more people keep recovering(vaccinated/unvaccinated) from this virus, they soon realized that all the fear-mongering was nothing but hype.

Maybe you can show me any stats that show the reinfection rate of unvaccinated recovered victims? And, compare this rate to the vaccinated recovered victims. This would certainly help your pro-vaccination case. Instead of using only pathos, try logos!

This government, for a time got away with the same kind of repression that is still used in N. Korea. Fortunately we weren't born under this level of social repression. We ended this nonsense. We decided that our freedoms and liberties were much more important, than any disease milder than the measles.

No matter how many ways you want to spin your narrative, the facts won't change.

60% of those infected will be asymptomatic. And will have NO symptoms during the entire course of the illness.
80% of those infected will have mild to moderate symptoms(visit to your chemist) throughout the course of the illness.
99.9% of those infected will recover, regardless of their vaccination status
Those with multiple chronic morbidities, are immunocomprimised, or are DNR will still have the greatest risk of dying. WITH or FROM this illness!!

Now these ARE the relevant facts that you seem to keep ignoring. I guess posting them would undermine the mania of your fear campaign.
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Reply #708 - Jun 2nd, 2024 at 5:12am
 
yep.

40,000 doctors in australia and carl has found ONE (dr david berger) who agrees with him.

and this same dr berger has been sanctioned by the medical authorities for scaremongering  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

and carl says the ohter 39,999 are wrong Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

i think we can say who has become the conspircay theorist
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #709 - Jun 2nd, 2024 at 8:35am
 
...

FAFO.

F Around Find Out.

That's the stage we're at now... with Covid and "Bird Flu".
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #710 - Jun 2nd, 2024 at 8:53am
 
Yes, how about it, NSW "Health"?

And every other State and Territory.

https://x.com/TriciaDearborn/status/1796519903748657592

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How about making the wearing of N95s mandatory in healthcare during this wave of C0VlD, @NSWHealth

You know, to stop people dying?


PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE CATCHING COVID (OR THE FLU OR RSV, ETC.) IN HOSPITALS AND DYING because the doctors and staff don't want to mask and the hospitals don't want to pay for the masks.

And there's been thousands of Covid hospital deaths Australia wide over the past 2 years.

The lawsuits are coming. Of that I have no doubt whatsoever.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #711 - Jun 2nd, 2024 at 2:55pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 8:53am:
Yes, how about it, NSW "Health"?

And every other State and Territory.

https://x.com/TriciaDearborn/status/1796519903748657592

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How about making the wearing of N95s mandatory in healthcare during this wave of C0VlD, @NSWHealth

You know, to stop people dying?


PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE CATCHING COVID (OR THE FLU OR RSV, ETC.) IN HOSPITALS AND DYING because the doctors and staff don't want to mask and the hospitals don't want to pay for the masks.

And there's been thousands of Covid hospital deaths Australia wide over the past 2 years.

The lawsuits are coming. Of that I have no doubt whatsoever.


Do you really think that a virus smaller than the wave-length of visible light cares, if its host is in a hospital or not?

Do you think that humans can erect physical barriers to prevent anyone from being infected? That is almost impossible! And certainly impossible to maintain.

Do you think that many doctors and nurses don't wear mask because they know that they don't work? Or, that they're just tired of being abused, for telling people to do something that is useless and unnecessary?

Did you miss the part when it was mandatory for ALL healthcare workers to wear masks in hospitals/clinics? It was this same industry that reported the highest infection rates than any other industry.

If you did choose to address the questions posted, instead of playing the death card(out of context), you would clearly see what the overwhelming majority of Australians have seen. WE WERE HAD/CONNED!

But, "Fool me once shame on you, but fool me twice...". We know better now. At least most of us!

People have a right to their own opinions about anything. But when they pick and choose only the facts that support their own confirmation bias, and ignore all other facts, then they're just being intellectually dishonest. Who exactly do you sue, for catching the flu??? Is Covid-19 the only disease under your radar?


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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #712 - Jun 2nd, 2024 at 3:11pm
 
ShellShilo wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 2:55pm:
Did you miss the part when it was mandatory for ALL healthcare workers to wear masks in hospitals/clinics? It was this same industry that reported the highest infection rates than any other industry.


You didn't think that one through, did you?

The industry with the highest exposure rate to COVID reported the highest infection rates?

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You science deniers crack me up sometimes.
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Re: People are still dying of Covid19 in Australia
Reply #713 - Jun 2nd, 2024 at 4:21pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 3:11pm:
ShellShilo wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 2:55pm:
Did you miss the part when it was mandatory for ALL healthcare workers to wear masks in hospitals/clinics? It was this same industry that reported the highest infection rates than any other industry.


You didn't think that one through, did you?

The industry with the highest exposure rate to COVID reported "
WITH
" the highest infection rates?

https://media.tenor.com/V1nzNc4rZE8AAAAe/you-dont-say-nic-cage.png

You science deniers crack me up sometimes.


Not sure what you mean here. Was it syntax or semantics? Are you implying/saying that the healthcare industry did NOT have the highest rate of infections. I never mentioned "exposure" rates. I'd assume that would be a given. Smiley My point was, that this industry was the expert industry on healthcare prevention. Yet this same industry couldn't protect itself from infections.
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Reply #714 - Jun 2nd, 2024 at 4:27pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 8:53am:
Yes, how about it, NSW "Health"?

And every other State and Territory.

https://x.com/TriciaDearborn/status/1796519903748657592

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How about making the wearing of N95s mandatory in healthcare during this wave of C0VlD, @NSWHealth

You know, to stop people dying?


PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE CATCHING COVID (OR THE FLU OR RSV, ETC.) IN HOSPITALS AND DYING because the doctors and staff don't want to mask and the hospitals don't want to pay for the masks.

And there's been thousands of Covid hospital deaths Australia wide over the past 2 years.

The lawsuits are coming. Of that I have no doubt whatsoever.


i cant move....


except my fingers to be a 'drama queen"
whats the ambulance for?
if you need an ambulance, how many people go and post about it on Twitter first  Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #715 - Jun 2nd, 2024 at 4:28pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 3:11pm:
ShellShilo wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 2:55pm:
Did you miss the part when it was mandatory for ALL healthcare workers to wear masks in hospitals/clinics? It was this same industry that reported the highest infection rates than any other industry.


You didn't think that one through, did you?

The industry with the highest exposure rate to COVID reported the highest infection rates?

https://media.tenor.com/V1nzNc4rZE8AAAAe/you-dont-say-nic-cage.png

You science deniers crack me up sometimes.


i know,

like carl who believes one quack over the other 39,999 who think that guys a quack


are doctors trained in science?

is carl  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #716 - Jun 2nd, 2024 at 5:40pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 4:28pm:
i know,

like carl who believes one quack over the other 39,999 who think that guys a quack


are doctors trained in science?

is carl  Grin Grin Grin Grin


Are you referring to Dr. David Berger?

If so, can you provide us with a link with the names of the 39,999 people who think he's a quack?

And if you're referring to the ridiculous complaint to the AHPRA 2 years ago about Dr. Berger's social media posts - it was done by ONE anonymous complainer (Dr. Berger said at the time that he was pretty sure he knew who it was but he wouldn't say).

Anyway, if you could just find a (credible) link with those 39,999 names that would be great. If you like you can post it with a (credible) link proving that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is now just a "mild respiratory virus" or "just a cold" when you've also found that. It's only been a couple of days now so there's no rush.

Thanks.  Smiley
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Reply #717 - Jun 2nd, 2024 at 6:01pm
 
Covid 2024 equals a sniffle for 3 days.  Grin
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Reply #718 - Jun 2nd, 2024 at 6:42pm
 
Carl D wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 5:40pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 2nd, 2024 at 4:28pm:
i know,

like carl who believes one quack over the other 39,999 who think that guys a quack


are doctors trained in science?

is carl  Grin Grin Grin Grin


Are you referring to Dr. David Berger?

If so, can you provide us with a link with the names of the 39,999 people who think he's a quack?

And if you're referring to the ridiculous complaint to the AHPRA 2 years ago about Dr. Berger's social media posts - it was done by ONE anonymous complainer (Dr. Berger said at the time that he was pretty sure he knew who it was but he wouldn't say).

Anyway, if you could just find a (credible) link with those 39,999 names that would be great. If you like you can post it with a (credible) link proving that SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) is now just a "mild respiratory virus" or "just a cold" when you've also found that. It's only been a couple of days now so there's no rush.

Thanks.  Smiley



hi carl

who runs hospitals?

concretors?
fishermen?
truckies?

no they are run by people called doctors, who have decided that masks are not neccessary

now show us your medical degree or bugger off  Roll Eyes
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Reply #719 - Jun 2nd, 2024 at 7:36pm
 
Let's see...

I'll show you my medical degree when you show me proof of the two things I've asked about in my previous post.

And seeing as I don't have a medical degree you are never going to see it, just like I am never going to see the proof I've been asking for.
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