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Re: Become a psuedo vegan - Eat Lab Meat
Reply #30 - May 20^th, 2023 at 12:56pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 11:59am:

Bobby. wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 10:49am:

Hi Spot - they look nice too.

I think everyone should try vegan sausages.

The point was (apart from price): are they healthy?

You'd hope that vegetables would be more healthy.
Yes - maybe they could put too much salt in it?

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Reply #31 - May 20^th, 2023 at 1:10pm

Bobby. wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 12:56pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 11:59am:

Bobby. wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 10:49am:

Hi Spot - they look nice too.

I think everyone should try vegan sausages.

The point was (apart from price): are they healthy?

You'd hope that vegetables would be more healthy.
Yes - maybe they could put too much salt in it?

Possibly, I don't know; but perhaps the 'list of ingredients' panel will show all the artificial additives, as well as sugar and salt....usually a fair swig of them, in manufactured foods.

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Reply #32 - May 20^th, 2023 at 2:16pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 1:10pm:

Possibly, I don't know; but perhaps the 'list of ingredients' panel will show all the artificial additives, as well as sugar and salt....usually a fair swig of them, in manufactured foods.

"It's Time to End the War on Salt

The zealous drive by politicians to limit our salt intake has little basis in science"

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-the-war-on-salt/
"For decades the notion that an excessive consumption of salt (NaCl) leads to hypertension has persisted. However, this idea is based on opinion, not scientific proof. Despite this, every health organization, agency, and clinicians around the world have been advising salt restriction, especially to hypertensive patients. The present review article suggests that the consumption of a high-salt diet is not the cause of hypertension and that there are other factors, such as added sugars, which are causative for inducing hypertension and cardiovascular disease."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28373112/

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Re: Become a psuedo vegan - Eat Lab Meat
Reply #33 - May 20^th, 2023 at 2:36pm

lee wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 2:16pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 1:10pm:

Possibly, I don't know; but perhaps the 'list of ingredients' panel will show all the artificial additives, as well as sugar and salt....usually a fair swig of them, in manufactured foods.

"It's Time to End the War on Salt

The zealous drive by politicians to limit our salt intake has little basis in science"

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-the-war-on-salt/
"For decades the notion that an excessive consumption of salt (NaCl) leads to hypertension has persisted. However, this idea is based on opinion, not scientific proof. Despite this, every health organization, agency, and clinicians around the world have been advising salt restriction, especially to hypertensive patients. The present review article suggests that the consumption of a high-salt diet is not the cause of hypertension and that there are other factors, such as added sugars, which are causative for inducing hypertension and cardiovascular disease."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28373112/

I think we can take that article with a grain of salt, lee.

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Reply #34 - May 20^th, 2023 at 5:14pm

lee wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 2:16pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 1:10pm:

Possibly, I don't know; but perhaps the 'list of ingredients' panel will show all the artificial additives, as well as sugar and salt....usually a fair swig of them, in manufactured foods.

"It's Time to End the War on Salt

The zealous drive by politicians to limit our salt intake has little basis in science"

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-the-war-on-salt/
"For decades the notion that an excessive consumption of salt (NaCl) leads to hypertension has persisted. However, this idea is based on opinion, not scientific proof. Despite this, every health organization, agency, and clinicians around the world have been advising salt restriction, especially to hypertensive patients. The present review article suggests that the consumption of a high-salt diet is not the cause of hypertension and that there are other factors, such as added sugars, which are causative for inducing hypertension and cardiovascular disease."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28373112/

I think you may be right, despite gp's pricless cartoon...though processed foods are loaded with both sugar and salt for the preservative value.

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Reply #38 - May 21^st, 2023 at 10:52am

Jovial Monk wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 8:54am:

I do not eat much meat anymore.

Yesterday, I bought lamb chops and a lamb backstrap. Usually I buy a smallish porterhouse or TBone and that is my meat for the week bar some prosciutto or pancetta or salami.

Good for my wallet, good for my health as are my walks with the dog. Socks, being a 30Kg beast requires L O O O N G walks. Plenty Vit D.

My dinner tonight—the other half of the potato–spinach–egg–cheese casserole I made last night.

I have jars full of dried beans, split peas and puy and red lentils. Might make Boston baked beans some time and would like another go at the TexMex bean chili.

Another dog meet Saturday. Wish I could bring something warm from home—all they supply is a snag on white bread Cry

will see if I can buy a thermos.

To overcome the hassle of the overnight soak and the one hour of cooking—cook a heap and fill into jars and preserve in a pressure canner. Be doing that when the days are too cold/wet to be outside.

Recipe: https://www.healthycanning.com/canning-kidney-beans

Works for cannellini beans too and I dare say haricot beans.

Calculate the quantity for 250ml jars—nice quantity for salads. Use some litre jars for bulk recipes, etc.

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Re: Become a psuedo vegan - Eat Lab Meat
Reply #40 - May 21^st, 2023 at 1:34pm

I only used salt as an example. Myself i have always had low BP so doctors occasionally tell me to eat MORE salt. Theres all kinds of "vegan" additives in processed vegan foods same as other additives in other food. Its all processed. That being said i do like those apple sausages for a treat now and then.

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Reply #41 - May 22^nd, 2023 at 12:36pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 21^st, 2023 at 10:52am:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 18^th, 2023 at 8:54am:

I do not eat much meat anymore.

Yesterday, I bought lamb chops and a lamb backstrap. Usually I buy a smallish porterhouse or TBone and that is my meat for the week bar some prosciutto or pancetta or salami.

Good for my wallet, good for my health as are my walks with the dog. Socks, being a 30Kg beast requires L O O O N G walks. Plenty Vit D.

My dinner tonight—the other half of the potato–spinach–egg–cheese casserole I made last night.

I have jars full of dried beans, split peas and puy and red lentils. Might make Boston baked beans some time and would like another go at the TexMex bean chili.

Another dog meet Saturday. Wish I could bring something warm from home—all they supply is a snag on white bread Cry

will see if I can buy a thermos.

To overcome the hassle of the overnight soak and the one hour of cooking—cook a heap and fill into jars and preserve in a pressure canner. Be doing that when the days are too cold/wet to be outside.

Recipe: https://www.healthycanning.com/canning-kidney-beans

Works for cannellini beans too and I dare say haricot beans.

Calculate the quantity for 250ml jars—nice quantity for salads. Use some litre jars for bulk recipes, etc.

Thanks.

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