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Hiring New Workers To Break Industrial Action
May 14th, 2023 at 12:21pm
 
Striking workers accuse Visy of hiring replacements to break industrial action

Shepparton News
May 12, 2023


The Australian Manufacturing Workers’ Union has accused Visy of hiring new employees to cover Shepparton workers who have been taking industrial action against the company since January.   Sad

The AMWU members employed at Visy’s Wheeler St plant in Shepparton have refused a pay offer of 8.75 per cent over three years in a proposed new enterprise bargaining agreement, saying it amounts to an effective pay cut.

The inflation rate for the first quarter of the year was seven per cent, but that is expected to fall over the next 12 months.



Union spokesman Danny Miller said Visy was spending money on new workers to cover staff they could get back to work if they provided them with a better pay offer.

“They’re basically saying we’re going to replace the whole workforce, which commenced on Monday (May 8),” he said.

“They’ve put on seven new workers Monday this week unbeknown to those particular individuals that there is an ongoing pay dispute with the company.

“I think it’s morally and ethically wrong.”

Mr Miller said the industrial action had been going on for 18 weeks and involved 35 workers, who were only working two shifts per week out of five, meaning a vast reduction in their take-home pay.

“Nearly all members have family of some description,” he said.

Mr Miller said the workers protested again outside Visy’s Wheeler St plant on Friday, May 12 in an attempt to shake the company back into talks.

“We’re hoping that today will force the company back to the table and negotiate, that’s what we want,” he said.

“We’ve tried different ways to slice up the wage increase. The company has flatly said ‘no’.”

Visy has been contacted many times by the News in recent months for a comment on the industrial action without any response being offered.

Visy has again been contacted for this story.
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Reply #1 - May 14th, 2023 at 12:41pm
 
If the existing employees are not prepared to do their job, why shouldn't they hire someone who is?
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Reply #2 - May 14th, 2023 at 12:49pm
 
freediver wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 12:41pm:
If the existing employees are not prepared to do their job, why shouldn't they hire someone who is?



It's never that simplistic FD .... & you know that very well.


It's all about more for less.
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Reply #3 - May 14th, 2023 at 12:55pm
 
Gnads wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 12:49pm:
freediver wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 12:41pm:
If the existing employees are not prepared to do their job, why shouldn't they hire someone who is?



It's never that simplistic FD .... & you know that very well.


It's all about more for less.


What are you talking about? The unionists wanting more money for doing less work?
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Reply #4 - May 14th, 2023 at 1:08pm
 
freediver wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 12:55pm:
What are you talking about? The unionists wanting more money for doing less work?


No, the bosses wanting more money by screwing the workers. 
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Re: Hiring New Workers To Break Industrial Action
Reply #5 - May 14th, 2023 at 1:16pm
 
Why should the job not go to whoever presents the best value proposition to the company owner?

If employees are allowed to shop around for the best job they can get, why should employers not be able to do the same?
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Reply #6 - May 14th, 2023 at 1:36pm
 
freediver wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 12:55pm:
Gnads wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 12:49pm:
freediver wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 12:41pm:
If the existing employees are not prepared to do their job, why shouldn't they hire someone who is?



It's never that simplistic FD .... & you know that very well.


It's all about more for less.


What are you talking about? The unionists wanting more money for doing less work?



Who says the present workforce is unproductive or not doing their jobs?

You know full well that's not the case or reasoning behind this issue.

It's solely about the employer getting the work done for less ...... hiring non union workers(scabs) so they can pay less than the current EBA rates without worker protections from exploitation.

Going full steam down the US path ..... not surprising since most of the corporations/businesses are foreign owned.

Are you one of these types who believe people can give more than 100%?

You know the old- "he/she gives 110% everyday" types?

It's all just BS business speak(weasel words) for working longer hours for less money.

You're fluent in weasel words too aren't you FD?
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Reply #7 - May 14th, 2023 at 1:50pm
 
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Who says the present workforce is unproductive or not doing their jobs?


They are obviously less productive than the people they want to hire to replace them.
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Reply #8 - May 14th, 2023 at 2:03pm
 
freediver wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 12:41pm:
If the existing employees are not prepared to do their job, why shouldn't they hire someone who is?


Because they are existing employees.
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Reply #9 - May 14th, 2023 at 2:03pm
 
freediver wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 1:50pm:
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Who says the present workforce is unproductive or not doing their jobs?


They are obviously less productive than the people they want to hire to replace them.


Oh, I dunno - it takes a good while to bring new people up to speed.......
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Reply #10 - May 14th, 2023 at 3:02pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 2:03pm:
freediver wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 12:41pm:
If the existing employees are not prepared to do their job, why shouldn't they hire someone who is?


Because they are existing employees.


Not once they are fired.
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Reply #11 - May 14th, 2023 at 3:31pm
 
Is a cat a critter, FD?

Instead of Cats and [other?] Critters what about Critters and Gardens?
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Reply #12 - May 14th, 2023 at 5:07pm
 
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Hiring New Workers To Break Industrial Action


You mean scabs ?
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Reply #13 - May 14th, 2023 at 6:23pm
 
Private enterprise destroyed working conditions.
Those doing the work get screwed while those investing reap the rewards.
The ceo sits in his million dollar home, wiping his arse with $100 bills, while the workers live out if the back of their cars.
It's the American dream.


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Reply #14 - May 14th, 2023 at 6:40pm
 
freediver wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 12:55pm:
Gnads wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 12:49pm:
freediver wrote on May 14th, 2023 at 12:41pm:
If the existing employees are not prepared to do their job, why shouldn't they hire someone who is?



It's never that simplistic FD .... & you know that very well.


It's all about more for less.


What are you talking about? The unionists wanting more money for doing less work?



You've certainly overdosed on cool aid.

Just think,  there were morons like you who were making the same argument to justify 10yr old kids working 12hr days down  mine shafts.
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