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Reply #195 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 7:57am

Here's some more real work for you weeds:-

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/a-senate-inquiry-into-missing-and-murde...

"ABC News (AU)

A Senate inquiry into missing and murdered First Nations women and children wrapped up this week. Here's what you need to know

"For years, Darumbal and South Sea Islander woman Amy McQuire has sat in courtrooms listening to the harrowing stories of families crying out for answers about loved ones who have vanished from their lives – some as young as four years old.

"If you go to any Aboriginal community, you'll hear stories like this where their loved ones have been killed and there hasn't been a follow through," the post-doctoral Indigenous fellow at the Queensland University of Technology said.

Triggered by stories like this, almost two years ago, a Senate inquiry into missing and murdered First Nations women and children was established after Yamatji-Noongar woman and Greens senator Dorinda Cox brought a motion to parliament.
After 87 submissions and many traumatic stories shared by First Nations advocates and families across five states and territories, the last hearing was held in Melbourne on Tuesday.

Dr McQuire said the scale of the issue was "huge" and must be addressed at a systemic level.

"What's happening with these specific cases of women disappearing is that they are seen as isolated cases, so you don't see the patterns," she said.

She said there needed to be more honest discussions about the violence First Nations women and children were experiencing.

"Violence is only spoken about in one way and it's always black-on-black violence and black men being perpetrators, but when [Aboriginal people] speak about violence, it's very different."

"There has to be a national movement to understand what's happening, but it has to be led by Aboriginal families in memory of their loved ones."

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people make up 20 per cent of homicide victims in Australia, according to the Australian Institute of Criminology, despite representing only 3.8 per cent of the population.

Almost a fifth of those victims are children.

And First Nations women are 33 times more likely to be hospitalised and six times more likely to die due to family violence in comparison to non-Indigenous women.

It was only two weeks ago that the Queensland deputy state coroner said it "may never be known" how 36-year-old Brisbane mother Constance Watcho died.

Her body was found in a sports bag at the bottom of a popular walking track in Kangaroo Point.

She had been missing for 10 months and when her family reported her missing in 2018, the local police marked her case as "medium risk".

More - do some work for yourselves. I passed my 3/4 century yesterday - I'm going back to bed.... do some work, you lazy dolts... and get with the program or get off the lifeboat.... better still - get ON the next boat in my Reverse Boat People Program... a companion piece with Aborassic Park/Two State Solution/Abestine/Gondwanamo Bay and On a Midnight Drear in a Dark Desert from a Black Chopper... little bit of road clearance on a dark desert highway never hurt nobody...

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Re: This Aboriginal Disaster
Reply #196 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 12:42pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 7:57am:

Here's some more real work for you weeds:-

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/a-senate-inquiry-into-missing-and-murde...

"ABC News (AU)

A Senate inquiry into missing and murdered First Nations women and children wrapped up this week. Here's what you need to know

"For years, Darumbal and South Sea Islander woman Amy McQuire has sat in courtrooms listening to the harrowing stories of families crying out for answers about loved ones who have vanished from their lives – some as young as four years old.

"If you go to any Aboriginal community, you'll hear stories like this where their loved ones have been killed and there hasn't been a follow through," the post-doctoral Indigenous fellow at the Queensland University of Technology said.

Triggered by stories like this, almost two years ago, a Senate inquiry into missing and murdered First Nations women and children was established after Yamatji-Noongar woman and Greens senator Dorinda Cox brought a motion to parliament.
After 87 submissions and many traumatic stories shared by First Nations advocates and families across five states and territories, the last hearing was held in Melbourne on Tuesday.

Dr McQuire said the scale of the issue was "huge" and must be addressed at a systemic level.

"What's happening with these specific cases of women disappearing is that they are seen as isolated cases, so you don't see the patterns," she said.

She said there needed to be more honest discussions about the violence First Nations women and children were experiencing.

"Violence is only spoken about in one way and it's always black-on-black violence and black men being perpetrators, but when [Aboriginal people] speak about violence, it's very different."

"There has to be a national movement to understand what's happening, but it has to be led by Aboriginal families in memory of their loved ones."

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people make up 20 per cent of homicide victims in Australia, according to the Australian Institute of Criminology, despite representing only 3.8 per cent of the population.

Almost a fifth of those victims are children.

And First Nations women are 33 times more likely to be hospitalised and six times more likely to die due to family violence in comparison to non-Indigenous women.

It was only two weeks ago that the Queensland deputy state coroner said it "may never be known" how 36-year-old Brisbane mother Constance Watcho died.

Her body was found in a sports bag at the bottom of a popular walking track in Kangaroo Point.

She had been missing for 10 months and when her family reported her missing in 2018, the local police marked her case as "medium risk".

More - do some work for yourselves. I passed my 3/4 century yesterday - I'm going back to bed.... do some work, you lazy dolts... and get with the program or get off the lifeboat.... better still - get ON the next boat in my Reverse Boat People Program... a companion piece with Aborassic Park/Two State Solution/Abestine/Gondwanamo Bay and On a Midnight Drear in a Dark Desert from a Black Chopper... little bit of road clearance on a dark desert highway never hurt nobody...

You rightly point to the disaster, and conclude with some waffle you imagine will solve the probelem.

In the end, there are only two possible courses of action: higher taxes to make the poverty industry work, or a Job Guarantee funded by free public money, ie money issued by the Oz treasury, rather than funded by taxpayer money.

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SadKangaroo Gold Member Offline #FightStupid Posts: 17271 Mianjin (Brisbane)	Re: This Aboriginal Disaster Reply #197 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 1:07pm But providing assistance or money is Lawfare and the Voice by stealth... /s
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Re: This Aboriginal Disaster
Reply #198 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 1:37pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 4:00pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 14^th, 2024 at 2:41pm:

Still kullin' their kuds .... Jesus...

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/leeanne-eatts-sentenced-over-drowning-d...

I watched that news segment on ABC news last night. I was wondering if it was an indigenous mother that killed her children. Then the newsreader gave the warning that the following has images of indigenous children that have died. Yep...

But then the news story went on about the children drowning. The argument was that the mother neglected to look after them. I found it quite unusual that the mother would be held responsible for her children's stupid decisions, regardless of how young they were. The argument being that Leanne did not care to watch over her sons for a considerable amount of time.

53 years old? Ms Eatts certainly had her last two children very late in life. And her eldest son died whilst Ms Eatts was in custody for the manslaughter charge.

3 & 5 ..... you have to be joking right?

A parent doesn't leave their children this young roam off unsupervised.

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12956 Gender:	Re: This Aboriginal Disaster Reply #199 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 2:23pm SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 1:07pm: But providing assistance or money is Lawfare and the Voice by stealth... /s Care to rephrase that? The poverty industry aka 'welfare' (providing money/ assistance) isn't "Lawfare", it's dysfunctional mainstream economics.
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Re: This Aboriginal Disaster
Reply #200 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 2:40pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 1:07pm:

But providing assistance or money is Lawfare and the Voice by stealth... /s

**sighs** It depends on what demands are in play, son. Do I have to spoon feed you every day? Stop wasting everyone's time trying to be a smart-arse and running yourself in circles and trying to pose ridiculous situations when you know the reality.

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Re: This Aboriginal Disaster
Reply #201 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 2:44pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 12:42pm:

You rightly point to the disaster, and conclude with some waffle

cutting advice to dorks about their behaviour

you imagine will solve the probelem.

In the end, there are only two possible courses of action: higher taxes to make the poverty industry work, or a Job Guarantee funded by free public money, ie money issued by the Oz treasury, rather than funded by taxpayer money.

Sorry for making the effort with you..... clearly your English is as bad as your reasoning.

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Re: This Aboriginal Disaster
Reply #202 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 2:45pm

I see you pair of garden weeds managed to get away from the real and crying issue out there and into your own personal head problems almost instantly.....

Let me just explain it to you gently - with as little petroleum jelly as possible - keeping people in a situation of incipient poverty and near-devastation can indeed be a component of lawfare ... in many ways - but you'd need an entire dissertation rather than your smart-arsed single line snaps to clear it up for you - so stick with the real issues - you'll get a lot further without wasting time for everyone.

FYI I am the only one highly trained in snap shooting without sights... and I am over fifty years out of practice...

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Re: This Aboriginal Disaster
Reply #203 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 5:10pm

We now return you to our normal program....

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 7:57am:

Here's some more real work for you weeds:-

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/a-senate-inquiry-into-missing-and-murde...

"ABC News (AU)

A Senate inquiry into missing and murdered First Nations women and children wrapped up this week. Here's what you need to know

"For years, Darumbal and South Sea Islander woman Amy McQuire has sat in courtrooms listening to the harrowing stories of families crying out for answers about loved ones who have vanished from their lives – some as young as four years old.

"If you go to any Aboriginal community, you'll hear stories like this where their loved ones have been killed and there hasn't been a follow through," the post-doctoral Indigenous fellow at the Queensland University of Technology said.

Triggered by stories like this, almost two years ago, a Senate inquiry into missing and murdered First Nations women and children was established after Yamatji-Noongar woman and Greens senator Dorinda Cox brought a motion to parliament.
After 87 submissions and many traumatic stories shared by First Nations advocates and families across five states and territories, the last hearing was held in Melbourne on Tuesday.

Dr McQuire said the scale of the issue was "huge" and must be addressed at a systemic level.

"What's happening with these specific cases of women disappearing is that they are seen as isolated cases, so you don't see the patterns," she said.

She said there needed to be more honest discussions about the violence First Nations women and children were experiencing.

"Violence is only spoken about in one way and it's always black-on-black violence and black men being perpetrators, but when [Aboriginal people] speak about violence, it's very different."

"There has to be a national movement to understand what's happening, but it has to be led by Aboriginal families in memory of their loved ones."

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people make up 20 per cent of homicide victims in Australia, according to the Australian Institute of Criminology, despite representing only 3.8 per cent of the population.

Almost a fifth of those victims are children.

And First Nations women are 33 times more likely to be hospitalised and six times more likely to die due to family violence in comparison to non-Indigenous women.

It was only two weeks ago that the Queensland deputy state coroner said it "may never be known" how 36-year-old Brisbane mother Constance Watcho died.

Her body was found in a sports bag at the bottom of a popular walking track in Kangaroo Point.

She had been missing for 10 months and when her family reported her missing in 2018, the local police marked her case as "medium risk".

More - do some work for yourselves. I passed my 3/4 century yesterday - I'm going back to bed.... do some work, you lazy dolts... and get with the program or get off the lifeboat.... better still - get ON the next boat in my Reverse Boat People Program... a companion piece with Aborassic Park/Two State Solution/Abestine/Gondwanamo Bay and On a Midnight Drear in a Dark Desert from a Black Chopper... little bit of road clearance on a dark desert highway never hurt nobody...

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Re: This Aboriginal Disaster
Reply #204 - Jun 20^th, 2024 at 11:34am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 2:44pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 19^th, 2024 at 12:42pm:

You rightly point to the disaster, and conclude with some waffle

cutting advice to dorks about their behaviour

you imagine will solve the probelem.

In the end, there are only two possible courses of action: higher taxes to make the poverty industry work, or a Job Guarantee funded by free public money, ie money issued by the Oz treasury, rather than funded by taxpayer money.

Sorry for making the effort with you..... clearly your English is as bad as your reasoning.

No insight as usual: "cutting advice to dorks about their behaviour" completely ignores the reality of entrenched socio-economic disadvantage and its egregious consequences.

Not everyone can quietly subsist in entrenched poverty, nor know how to escape it.

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keeping people in a situation of incipient poverty and near-devastation can indeed be a component of lawfare

That appears to be SK's proposition, but it's only "lawfare" to the extent the poverty industry aka 'welfare' is law.

("It's the economy, stupid!").

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