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Reply #45 - May 8th, 2024 at 7:37pm
 
The greatest disaster for our Abestinians (Two State Solution, you know) is the well-meaning but essentially unfounded (mentally and intellectually under-funded) do-gooders farting roses in their faces about their rights and sovereignty over everything in Australia....

Time for some REAL input into their REAL problems... - let's not mince words - PROBLEMS - not 'issues'....
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Reply #46 - May 9th, 2024 at 12:06pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 8th, 2024 at 7:37pm:
The greatest disaster for our Abestinians (Two State Solution, you know) is the well-meaning but essentially unfounded (mentally and intellectually under-funded) do-gooders farting roses in their faces about their rights and sovereignty over everything in Australia....

Time for some REAL input into their REAL problems... - let's not mince words - PROBLEMS - not 'issues'....


The greatest disaster?

I disagree:  the mainstream acceptance of the poverty industry with its entrenched welfare dependency is surely the actual problem.

Let the activists bleat about 'black sovereignty';  but participation in the economy remains to be achieved, to close the the gap.

You don't want to confront that fact, because you can't confront the reality that free markets don't always function as intended.

Imagine if all blacks suddenly decided to 'get with the strength' (the modern world, for the sake of the argument), some would still be faced with the reality of welfare dependency - as experienced by half a million whites in Oz.
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Reply #47 - May 9th, 2024 at 10:04pm
 
More like 'black sheepreignty' .... in all ways.... they and their fellow travelers.... as long as they are fed BS and left to grow in the dark they will always mushroom into just another problem, and nothing that can be given to them - and governments do NOT have the right to hand over OUR national parks to anyone, as a clear example - will ever change the perpetual grasping for more and more, since they figure they own every part of this land and we are the visitors and their guests at their discretion.

Time to say NO!  Better to go to full scale and get it over than endure this daily lawfare of the death of a thousand cu*ts.... the list just grows and grows ... do you feel no shame over your crass betrayal of this country that feeds you so well?
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Reply #48 - May 10th, 2024 at 7:25am
 
Captain Nemo wrote on May 7th, 2024 at 12:39pm:
Meanwhile ... how the heck can this man be found to have NOT contributed to the woman's death?!!!   Angry

‘They are not a punching bag for your anger’: Court finds man who punched woman 40 times did not contribute to her death
Heather McNeill
ByHeather McNeill
May 7, 2024 — 5.00am

WARNING: Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander readers are warned that the following story contains an image of a deceased person.

The family of a West Australian woman who was viciously beaten by her partner in an attack that included punching her 40 times, stomping on her head five times and choking her, felt betrayed by the justice system after he was cleared of contributing to her death.

Instead, the cause of death of Jigalong woman, Nyaparu*, 24, was found to be a heart attack suffered in the moments after she was bashed.

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Nyaparu died from a heart attack after suffering a sustained beating from her partner in Perth’s CBD in 2022. CREDIT:WATODAY

The finding comes a month after Victorian woman Emma Bates was found dead inside her home after allegedly being bashed by her neighbour, who is not facing charges over her death due to a post-mortem being unable to determine if illness played a part.

Nyaparu died in December 2022 after CCTV captured her boyfriend Aaron Wumi, 28, unleashing a sustained assault on her about 12.40am on a footpath in Perth’s CBD.

The mother of one tried to walk away, but was followed by Wumi into a car park where a witness claimed the beating continued.

Obscured from CCTV, Wumi emerged from the area alone nearly an hour later. Nyaparu was found unresponsive lying on the ground and pronounced dead by paramedics at 3.12am.

Wumi told police he “didn’t mean to kill her”, and he was never charged over his partner’s death. Instead, pathologists found the young mother died of a heart attack.

Wumi was instead charged with causing bodily harm. Last week, as the national conversation around men’s violence and the deaths of women ramped up, he was sentenced to four years’ jail.

With parole, he could be released in two years.
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Perth District Court Judge Wendy Hughes said she sentenced Wumi on the basis he did not cause the death of the victim, directly or indirectly.  Shocked

“The cause of death was determined to be coronary artery atherosclerosis with alcohol effect. Essentially, that indicates that the victim died of a heart attack as someone who suffered from heart disease where high levels of alcohol increased the risk of a heart attack,” she said.

Nyaparu’s brother-in-law Michael Rickards said the family was stunned by the findings.

“My sister died two years ago and nobody’s spoken about it; there were no questions raised,” he said.

“If [Nyaparu] wasn’t beaten that night, would she have had a heart attack later that night?

“She’s been hit 40 times, had her head stomped on five times, been choked, stripped, she’s in distress.”

Rickards is calling for more to be done to stamp out domestic violence.

He is also calling for repeat domestic violence offenders to be added to a national banned drinkers’ register.

The day before her death, Wumi and Nyaparu had travelled from Jigalong – a remote Indigenous community east of Newman where alcohol is banned – to Perth for Wumi to undergo jaw surgery.

During his sentencing, Hughes told Wumi he had to stop drinking.

“Mr Wumi, you must never ever hurt your partner again,” she said.

“You must respect the women in your community, they are not a punching bag for your anger.”

West Australian Greens Senator Dorinda Cox supported Nyaparu’s family through the legal process.

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WA Premier Roger Cook also condemned Wumi’s violent attack, but stopped short of committing to any law reform.

“Whether the heart attack was caused by that attack. I’m not qualified to be able to make that call, but I understand that this case is very distressing and it’s heartbreaking,” he said.

“And we will obviously take any advice in relation to ensuring that we do everything we can to reduce and eliminate family domestic violence in our community.”

https://www.theage.com.au/national/western-australia/they-are-not-a-punching-bag...


How the Judge could come to that conclusion with a clear conscience is unbelievable.

Just because she had an underlying health issue.

It was the beating that put her system under stress and caused the the underlying issues to elevate.

Absolute morally callous technical disregard for the violence incurred.

Reminds me of an incident years ago, the Police were called to attend the local Railway yards 400mtrs from the Police Station because an Aboriginal youth who was "chroming" was wandering around the tracks, off his face whilst we were trying to shunt in the yard.

We couldn't do anything whilst he was there, the coppers took their own damned time getting there and did nothing.

Their response when questioned why wasn't the youth removed was that chronic chromers have underlying health issues and when high on the aerosol, if chased or apprehended and they struggle/resist .... their elevated blood pressure could cause a stroke or heart attack.

So don't tell me the beating this woman received didn't cause her death.
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Reply #49 - May 10th, 2024 at 11:51am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 9th, 2024 at 10:04pm:
Time to say NO!  Better to go to full scale and get it over than endure this daily lawfare of the death of a thousand cu*ts.... the list just grows and grows ... do you feel no shame over your crass betrayal of this country that feeds you so well?


You didn't address my post.  I feel no shame for facing the fact that people - all people - are blinded by clinging to their own culture.

Most smart blacks are willing to join the modern world, all they want is jobs.

As for religious mumbo jumbo ("sacred sites", etc) - we all fight over it eg Jews/Christians versus Moslems.   
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Reply #50 - May 10th, 2024 at 12:04pm
 
Delusion.
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Reply #51 - May 10th, 2024 at 12:17pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 10th, 2024 at 12:04pm:
Delusion.


Er... the idea is to defend and prove the correctness of your case.

The pity is you are the one who is deluded by a subjective awareness of freedom, a concept explored in FD's 'foundations' thread, but which he has abandoned because of his own delusions.

The "human condition" .....  ouch.
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Reply #52 - May 10th, 2024 at 12:20pm
 
aborigines were doing well as stockmen
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Reply #53 - May 10th, 2024 at 12:21pm
 
aborigines thrived at church missions like hopevale
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Reply #54 - May 10th, 2024 at 12:26pm
 
under 100's of billions of dollars flowing from canberra to fund leftie intellectual narcisitic fake compassion programs (basicly sit down money, public servant teachers, social workers, pyschologists and other hangers on (grifters)
aborigines have gone backwards in 17 of the 19 measures of the governments own closing the gap initiative.

one would think the facts speak for themselves
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Reply #55 - May 10th, 2024 at 1:15pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 10th, 2024 at 12:26pm:
under 100's of billions of dollars flowing from canberra to fund leftie intellectual narcisitic fake compassion programs (basicly sit down money, public servant teachers, social workers, pyschologists and other hangers on (grifters)
aborigines have gone backwards in 17 of the 19 measures of the governments own closing the gap initiative.

one would think the facts speak for themselves


ie the poverty industry.

Right in all three posts.

Amazing. Politics makes strange bedfellows.
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Reply #56 - May 21st, 2024 at 3:24pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 18th, 2023 at 4:17pm:
Of course it does, that's why the voice referendum will be held; ie they believe it will assist in closing the gap.


That is the problem they have.  It wasn't how the voice was going to aid in reaching that goal.

It's the goal that the problem.
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Reply #57 - May 21st, 2024 at 5:06pm
 
Well - when your goal is control over land, water and resources - I tend to consider that supremacism and tyranny  ... must be just me ....

I think I WILL claim that beach next time I walk across it.... the whole bloody lot .... now then - where did my ancestors travel in Australia ... hmmm ... gotta be a native title claim there somewhere... I'm native to this land... it's MY land!!
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Reply #58 - May 21st, 2024 at 5:50pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 10th, 2024 at 12:17pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 10th, 2024 at 12:04pm:
Delusion.


Er... the idea is to defend and prove the correctness of your case.

The pity is you are the one who is deluded by a subjective awareness of freedom, a concept explored in FD's 'foundations' thread, but which he has abandoned because of his own delusions.

The "human condition" .....  ouch.


Delusion ....
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Reply #59 - May 22nd, 2024 at 1:13pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 21st, 2024 at 5:50pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 10th, 2024 at 12:17pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 10th, 2024 at 12:04pm:
Delusion.


Er... the idea is to defend and prove the correctness of your case.

The pity is you are the one who is deluded by a subjective awareness of freedom, a concept explored in FD's 'foundations' thread, but which he has abandoned because of his own delusions.

The "human condition" .....  ouch.


Delusion ....


Funny, seeing this written immediaetly below:

Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
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You apparently think "facts " can be established - are "self-evident"  -  merely by repeating the word "delusion" ..

I have bad news for you...
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