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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #480 - Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:02pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 2:00pm:

Bobby is hopeless but he hasn't been closed down by his owner FleaDriver.

The UN is a forum for international communication and cooperation. Without the UN there would be even more conflict than there now is.

Close them down and start another UN where countries sign agreements to
make the votes of the new UN enforceable or not join at all.
Get rid of the veto powers of 5 countries - no more vetos.

Put sanctions on any country that doesn't sign up.

Nice thought, but you're dreaming. Do you seriously think the superpowers would accept being subject to the UN let alone other countries like Israel which constantly ignore the UN?

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #482 - Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:22pm

Linus wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:02pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 2:00pm:

Bobby is hopeless but he hasn't been closed down by his owner FleaDriver.

The UN is a forum for international communication and cooperation. Without the UN there would be even more conflict than there now is.

Close them down and start another UN where countries sign agreements to
make the votes of the new UN enforceable or not join at all.
Get rid of the veto powers of 5 countries - no more vetos.

Put sanctions on any country that doesn't sign up.

Nice thought, but you're dreaming. Do you seriously think the superpowers would accept being subject to the UN let alone other countries like Israel that constantly ignore the UN.

Drastic action is needed.
Countries like Russia can go rogue and get away with it.

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #483 - Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:28pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:22pm:

Linus wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:02pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 2:00pm:

Bobby is hopeless but he hasn't been closed down by his owner FleaDriver.

The UN is a forum for international communication and cooperation. Without the UN there would be even more conflict than there now is.

Close them down and start another UN where countries sign agreements to
make the votes of the new UN enforceable or not join at all.
Get rid of the veto powers of 5 countries - no more vetos.

Put sanctions on any country that doesn't sign up.

Nice thought, but you're dreaming. Do you seriously think the superpowers would accept being subject to the UN let alone other countries like Israel that constantly ignore the UN.

Drastic action is needed.
Countries like Russia can go rogue and get away with it.

Ahhh yes, the USA. I don't think the Russians hold a candle to it.

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #484 - Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:43pm

Linus wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:22pm:

Linus wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:02pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 2:00pm:

Bobby is hopeless but he hasn't been closed down by his owner FleaDriver.

The UN is a forum for international communication and cooperation. Without the UN there would be even more conflict than there now is.

Close them down and start another UN where countries sign agreements to
make the votes of the new UN enforceable or not join at all.
Get rid of the veto powers of 5 countries - no more vetos.

Put sanctions on any country that doesn't sign up.

Nice thought, but you're dreaming. Do you seriously think the superpowers would accept being subject to the UN let alone other countries like Israel that constantly ignore the UN.

Drastic action is needed.
Countries like Russia can go rogue and get away with it.

Ahhh yes, the USA. I don't think the Russians hold a candle to it.

Welcome back Linus.

Yes - the USA is the most Rogue political nation on the planet. It does what it likes since it threw the British (Commonwealth) rule book out the window.
They are a Privatised Political system that doesn't adhere to the United Nations either - and usually tries to undermine the UN.
It's a nation that is the most 'invasive' on the planet.
It has been proved to have paid Dictators 'under the table' to keep their nations weak, while the Fake Media condemned the Dictators 'over the table' for propaganda reasons. All for 'national security' in their minds.

It's disgraceful that the British infused Australia has in modern times aligned itself with the USA to help like 'mercenaries' - to aid America's dirty wars and tactics.

I don't blame 'all' of America - I blame the two factors of the Civil War where the Blue North (Democrats) Medical Party won the War and took the $money$ power and the Grey South (Confederates) Music/Media Party who took the 'pussy' Kiss

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These two parties have done nothing but justify the problems in Asia and Africa too, besides ruining the USA with their $$$ & sexual (Gays/Trans/etc) corruptions.

Thankfully the Red East (Republican) Art Party (and recently via Trump) have declared themselves to stand apart of these two and what they stand for.
Now if only the White Supremacists can 'peacefully' create a White 'WESTERN' Party of Politics - real orthodox 'western' politics, we might see something good happening in the world.

Until then - the World (and America) must put up with the Blue North Democrat Medical Party with Hospital case Biden falling up steps and the Grey South Media/Music Party with their Gay/Trans/Paedo promotions.

The thing is that although the Grey South lost the 'war'.
Now we'll see the Blue North commit suicide to balance these two LOSERS!

Say no to the Blue North & Grey South.
Say yes to the Red East and the White West (the red and white stripes). Wink

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #485 - Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:02pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 2:00pm:

Bobby is hopeless but he hasn't been closed down by his owner FleaDriver.

The UN is a forum for international communication and cooperation. Without the UN there would be even more conflict than there now is.

Close them down and start another UN where countries sign agreements to
make the votes of the new UN enforceable or not join at all.
Get rid of the veto powers of 5 countries - no more vetos.

Put sanctions on any country that doesn't sign up.

The UN is a failure, as was the League of Nations. No new organisation is going to be more successful at maintaining peace and order.

The burst dam shortens the frontline. That may be an advantage to either side tactically.

Putin is holding a nuclear gun at the head of NATO. That is the only reason he's getting away with it. China and India are enjoying watching NATO squirm, for now.

Biden will die in retirement. Putin is not that confident. It took some years to get Qaddafi, and for once they got someone else to do it, which is the smart way.

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #486 - Jun 7^th, 2023 at 4:16pm

issuevoter wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:02pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 2:00pm:

Bobby is hopeless but he hasn't been closed down by his owner FleaDriver.

The UN is a forum for international communication and cooperation. Without the UN there would be even more conflict than there now is.

Close them down and start another UN where countries sign agreements to
make the votes of the new UN enforceable or not join at all.
Get rid of the veto powers of 5 countries - no more vetos.

Put sanctions on any country that doesn't sign up.

The UN is a failure, as was the League of Nations. No new organisation is going to be more successful at maintaining peace and order.

The burst dam shortens the frontline. That may be an advantage to either side tactically.

Putin is holding a nuclear gun at the head of NATO. That is the only reason he's getting away with it. China and India are enjoying watching NATO squirm, for now.

Biden will die in retirement. Putin is not that confident. It took some years to get Qaddafi, and for once they got someone else to do it, which is the smart way.

Russia doesn't deserve to be a permanent member of the UN
as no responsible power would threaten to use nuclear weapons on a peaceful neighbor -
neither would they blow up a dam and cause such a catastrophe -
neither would they commit 1000s of war crimes.

Kick the Russians out of the UN for 100 years.
No one should ever trade with them again for 200 years.

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #487 - Jun 7^th, 2023 at 4:26pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 12:55pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 11:25am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 10:26am:

Karnal wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 10:14am:

issuevoter wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 9:03am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 8:14am:

Biden has said nothing about the dam.

This should be taken as a crossing of a red line - it's unacceptable.

How will the weak Biden respond?

And what would Jesus . . . sorry, Bobby do?

What would Bobby's Dear Leader do?

Oh, that's right - stop the war within 24 hours of being elected.

Ever get the feeling you've been ploughed?

I think you need to face the fact that vlad decided to attack
When he was emboldened by the presence of feeble biden
And the woke agenda of the military
Which indicated to vlad

The weakness softness and meekness of the United States

I don't recall him rolling into the Ukraine whilst the big fella was at the helm

Ever get the feeling you're confused
Maybe Dr Jill I could check you out for senility

Vlad didn't need to invade while Trump was in. He had a yes-man in the White House. He had a US prez withdrawing congressionally-approved military aid from Ukraine. He had the promise of an American withdrawal from the NATO alliance in term 2.

Vlad went into Ukraine when he lost that hope. Remember, Vlad doesn't want all that extra real estate for a lousy $2 worth of sanctions. He wants the security of knowing his own regime is safe enough to hand over to the next guy.

Vlad's real want here is retirement. He wants all his ducks in a row so he can move into Putin's Palace and live la dolce vita - in peace. He invaded Ukraine because he knew their democracy would spread to Russia, and it was. Navalny got a good ten million views on his Putin's Palace doco.

But I'm curious. Why do you keep mentioning Trump? He's the guy who stood next to Vlad and said he could see no reason why Vlad would interfere in a US election. He's the guy who tried to get congress to overturn Russian sanctions. He's the guy who said Putin's a genius, he knows him well, "very very well". He's the guy who's backed Vlad every step along the way.

Why do you think he's throw all that out and get tough on Vlad? You like Vlad, Dear Leader likes Vlad.

Great minds think alike, no?

i think you are confusing me with gweggy Grin

Don't want to say, eh?

Cunning. The Superior Man no speaka da English.

No more questions for Aquascoot, leftards, he's having a nanna nap.

They say it increases one's dopamine levels, ya?

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #488 - Jun 7^th, 2023 at 4:29pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 2:52pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 2:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 12:57pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 12:55pm:

i think you are confusing me with gweggy Grin

The resident trans?

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/138/712/899/original/2a1486...

heres an admiral , biden appointed.

now that must have scared the russians Grin

The entire world is laughing at the united states of terrorism.

Oh? What's wrong with her, Captain?

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Reply #489 - Jun 7^th, 2023 at 4:40pm

issuevoter wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:02pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 2:00pm:

Bobby is hopeless but he hasn't been closed down by his owner FleaDriver.

The UN is a forum for international communication and cooperation. Without the UN there would be even more conflict than there now is.

Close them down and start another UN where countries sign agreements to
make the votes of the new UN enforceable or not join at all.
Get rid of the veto powers of 5 countries - no more vetos.

Put sanctions on any country that doesn't sign up.

The UN is a failure, as was the League of Nations. No new organisation is going to be more successful at maintaining peace and order.

The burst dam shortens the frontline. That may be an advantage to either side tactically.

Putin is holding a nuclear gun at the head of NATO. That is the only reason he's getting away with it. China and India are enjoying watching NATO squirm, for now.

Biden will die in retirement. Putin is not that confident. It took some years to get Qaddafi, and for once they got someone else to do it, which is the smart way.

If the UN is a failure?
Then its only because it has been undermined and weakened by nations like the USA, recently China and Russia along with even France.

Having no system like the UN or League or whatever - is far worse than having one - despite how much it can do.
It's an Alliance of Nations, like others - just with more involved in the Alliance.
No different to the Commonwealth, NATO and many others around the world.

All it has to do is just 'be there' representing the 'World' - that is its primary success. Only nations wanting to do selfish evil in the world, would rather it not be there.

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #490 - Jun 7^th, 2023 at 4:52pm

Jasin wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 4:40pm:

If the UN is a failure?
Then its only because it has been undermined and weakened by nations like the USA, recently China and Russia along with even France.

Having no system like the UN or League or whatever - is far worse than having one - despite how much it can do.
It's an Alliance of Nations, like others - just with more involved in the Alliance.
No different to the Commonwealth, NATO and many others around the world.

All it has to do is just 'be there' representing the 'World' - that is its primary success. Only nations wanting to do selfish evil in the world, would rather it not be there.

Nahh - if you have an old car that keeps breaking down it's better to buy a new car.

Same with the UN - it's a hopeless talk fest organisation for wordsmiths.

Too many countries just ignore it when it doesn't suit them
and the rest of the world keeps trading with them
as though nothing has changed.

The UN didn't stop multiple wars in Afghanistan and countless other wars:
Israel,
Yemen,
Vietnam,
Ukraine,
Iraq,
many wars in Africa -

the list seems to be endless and involves serious war crimes
committed by members of the UN that would have been
hanging offences under the Nuremberg principles.

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #491 - Jun 7^th, 2023 at 5:00pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 4:52pm:

Jasin wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 4:40pm:

If the UN is a failure?
Then its only because it has been undermined and weakened by nations like the USA, recently China and Russia along with even France.

Having no system like the UN or League or whatever - is far worse than having one - despite how much it can do.
It's an Alliance of Nations, like others - just with more involved in the Alliance.
No different to the Commonwealth, NATO and many others around the world.

All it has to do is just 'be there' representing the 'World' - that is its primary success. Only nations wanting to do selfish evil in the world, would rather it not be there.

Nahh - if you have an old car that keeps breaking down it's better to buy a new car.

Same with the UN - it's a hopeless talk fest organisation for wordsmiths.

Too many countries just ignore it when it doesn't suit them
and the rest of the world keeps trading with them
as though nothing has changed.

The UN didn't stop multiple wars in Afghanistan and countless other wars:
Israel,
Yemen,
Vietnam,
Ukraine,
Iraq,
many wars in Africa -

the list seems to be endless and involves serious war crimes
committed by members of the UN that would have been
hanging offences under the Nuremberg principles.

That's why the world needs Flash Gordon.
Little Trump is doing his best, but he is just a little guy afterall.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103090 Melbourne Gender:	Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly. Reply #492 - Jun 7^th, 2023 at 5:20pm Jasin wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 5:00pm: That's why the world needs Flash Gordon. Little Trump is doing his best, but he is just a little guy afterall. There is only 14 hours to save the world:
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Reply #493 - Jun 7^th, 2023 at 5:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 4:16pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 3:02pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 2:00pm:

Bobby is hopeless but he hasn't been closed down by his owner FleaDriver.

The UN is a forum for international communication and cooperation. Without the UN there would be even more conflict than there now is.

Close them down and start another UN where countries sign agreements to
make the votes of the new UN enforceable or not join at all.
Get rid of the veto powers of 5 countries - no more vetos.

Put sanctions on any country that doesn't sign up.

The UN is a failure, as was the League of Nations. No new organisation is going to be more successful at maintaining peace and order.

The burst dam shortens the frontline. That may be an advantage to either side tactically.

Putin is holding a nuclear gun at the head of NATO. That is the only reason he's getting away with it. China and India are enjoying watching NATO squirm, for now.

Biden will die in retirement. Putin is not that confident. It took some years to get Qaddafi, and for once they got someone else to do it, which is the smart way.

Russia doesn't deserve to be a permanent member of the UN
as no responsible power would threaten to use nuclear weapons on a peaceful neighbor -
neither would they blow up a dam and cause such a catastrophe -
neither would they commit 1000s of war crimes.

Kick the Russians out of the UN for 100 years.
No one should ever trade with them again for 200 years.

only one country has actually used nuclear weapons on somebody bobby

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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #494 - Jun 7^th, 2023 at 5:39pm

JC Denton wrote on Jun 7^th, 2023 at 5:36pm:

only one country has actually used nuclear weapons on somebody bobby

yes and no matter how they tried to rationalise it -
it was still mass murder:

70,000 instantly in Hiroshima and another 70,000 instantly in Nagasaki.

About 200,000 more within a few months.

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