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Re: Relationship of PA to death
Reply #285 - May 29^th, 2023 at 11:48pm

Bobby. wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 10:29pm:

Super Nova wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 10:28pm:

Hmm but please remember that Red dropped out before the election was concluded. Therefore Aussie as the only person standing. If Red didn't drop out, there is a real reason to dispute the result. That could have been taken to FD as we have done in the past.

He shouldn't have dropped out. There is nothing to contest because of that act of throwing a tanty and running away.

Let's provide balance.

If you are serious, there is one shot to get a new election going via petition or et aussie to call a spill.

There's no point in having another election
if Aussie can make as many sock puppets as he likes to vote for him. Embarrassed

Bobby.

The issue is not Aussie specific....it’s systemic. PA ALLOWS ALL MEMBERS to sign up/use sock puppets.

This needs to stop 👈 I have stated that MANY times. Why? It stuffs up elections.

Aussie has operated within current rules/regulations.

I’m happy to help out IF required.

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Re: Relationship of PA to death
Reply #286 - May 29^th, 2023 at 11:52pm

Lisa Jones wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 11:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 10:29pm:

Super Nova wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 10:28pm:

Hmm but please remember that Red dropped out before the election was concluded. Therefore Aussie as the only person standing. If Red didn't drop out, there is a real reason to dispute the result. That could have been taken to FD as we have done in the past.

He shouldn't have dropped out. There is nothing to contest because of that act of throwing a tanty and running away.

Let's provide balance.

If you are serious, there is one shot to get a new election going via petition or et aussie to call a spill.

There's no point in having another election
if Aussie can make as many sock puppets as he likes to vote for him. Embarrassed

Bobby.

The issue is not Aussie specific....it’s systemic. PA ALLOWS ALL MEMBERS to sign up/use sock puppets.
That needs to stop 👈 I have stated that MANY times.

I’m happy to help out IF required.

No that's not true.
As an experiment -
I tried to see if I could make a sock puppet but it didn't work.
Only the EL can accept a new member - Aussie never accepted the registration -
I can't even do it as a Global moderator.
However - the EL - namely Aussie -
can make an infinite number of sock puppets to vote for him.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Relationship of PA to death Reply #287 - May 29^th, 2023 at 11:54pm Bobby .... why couldn’t you make a few sock puppets? What was the issue exactly?
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 103559 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Relationship of PA to death Reply #288 - May 29^th, 2023 at 11:59pm Lisa Jones wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 11:54pm: Bobby .... why couldn’t you make a few sock puppets? What was the issue exactly? Aussie never accepted the registration.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Relationship of PA to death Reply #289 - May 30^th, 2023 at 12:01am Bobby. wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 11:59pm: Lisa Jones wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 11:54pm: Bobby .... why couldn’t you make a few sock puppets? What was the issue exactly? Aussie never accepted the registration. Do you know why?
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Re: Relationship of PA to death
Reply #290 - May 30^th, 2023 at 12:04am

Lisa Jones wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 12:01am:

Bobby. wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 11:59pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 11:54pm:

Bobby .... why couldn’t you make a few sock puppets?

What was the issue exactly?

Aussie never accepted the registration.

Do you know why?

I made it using a proxy site so maybe he didn't like the IP address?
I don't know as I never asked him.
The fact was that it was refused and no discussion was entered into.
As a Global Mod I have hardly any buttons.

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Re: Relationship of PA to death
Reply #291 - May 30^th, 2023 at 5:31am

https://www.polanimal.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=93&t=19587

Bobby. wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 10:20pm:

8 out of the 10 votes for Aussie are alleged sock puppets:

Aussie, -

genuine vote

Groot,
Donnie Darko,
TIB,
Rio,
Buster Scruggs,
Wally Raffles,
Lisa Jones,

genuine vote

Achmed,
Mohawk.

I went to PA tonight and checked the member history.
The votes are highly suspicious.
So let's check out the history of the alleged sock puppets:

Groot- 8 posts in total.
Previous post before election Sept 15 2022.
7 months before election

Donnie Darko - only ever made 1 post at the election
March 24th 2023.

TIB - only ever made 1 post at the election
March 24th 2023.

Rio, made a total of 22 posts.
Previous post before election was Aug 28 2016.
Did not post for 6 years before making 1 election post.

Buster Scruggs - only ever made 11 posts.
previous post before election was
at the previous election May 2 2022.
Hadn't posted for nearly 1 year.

Wally Raffles - 197 posts.
Previous post was Aug 31 2022 -
hadn't posted for 7 months before the election in March 2023.

Achmed - suspicious - mostly only made voting posts 28 in all.
previous vote Sept 3 2022 -
6 months before the election in March 2023.

Mohawk, only ever made 30 posts -
previous post was Jun 23 2018 -
had not made a post for 5 years.

OK - so let's check out Redneck's votes -
6 genuine votes.

The Heartless Felon - 163 posts.

Redneck- 6,256 posts

Super Nova 11,735 posts.

Jovial Monk - 2,999 posts

Nom de Plume - 2,231 posts

Brian - 6,057 posts

So - Redneck has 6 genuine votes versus Aussie with 2 genuine votes.

As a Global moderator at PA - I hereby declare that Redneck is the winner

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 21535 ACT Gender:	Re: Relationship of PA to death Reply #292 - May 30^th, 2023 at 7:45am That is why I withdrew, he is a disgusting cheat!
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Re: Relationship of PA to death
Reply #293 - May 30^th, 2023 at 7:50am

Bobby. wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 12:04am:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 12:01am:

Bobby. wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 11:59pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 11:54pm:

Bobby .... why couldn’t you make a few sock puppets?

What was the issue exactly?

Aussie never accepted the registration.

Do you know why?

I made it using a proxy site so maybe he didn't like the IP address?
I don't know as I never asked him.
The fact was that it was refused and no discussion was entered into.
As a Global Mod I have hardly any buttons.

There you go!

Had you followed through you by signing on with your new id you would have received a message in red requesting you to contact the board admin.

As I just did.

Note : I did not use a proxy IP though.

The ONLY way to resolve these issues is as follows:

1. All ids MUST register using static IP’s.
2. No socks are allowed.

These 2 measures will sort out elections BUT it will make PA even more like OzPol.

Is this what PA members want? I’m asking because I honestly don’t know the answer to this question.

Note : I’m just trying to help here.

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« Last Edit: May 30^th, 2023 at 7:57am by Lisa Jones »

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Re: Relationship of PA to death
Reply #294 - May 30^th, 2023 at 8:00am

Redmond Neck wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 7:45am:

That is why I withdrew, he is a disgusting cheat!

That's why I forgive you for withdrawing.
I was saving my vote for the end but I could see
that it was rigged so I didn't bother to vote.
Aussie has a whole army of sock puppets so it doesn't matter
how many genuine votes you got - Aussie would have got more.

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Re: Relationship of PA to death
Reply #295 - May 30^th, 2023 at 8:02am

Lisa Jones wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 7:50am:

There you go!

Had you followed through you by signing on with your new id you would have received a message in red requesting you to contact the board admin.

As I just did.

Note : I did not use a proxy IP though.

The ONLY way to resolve these issues is as follows:

1. All ids MUST register using static IP’s.
2. No socks are allowed.

These 2 measures will sort out elections BUT it will make PA even more like OzPol.

Is this what PA members want? I’m asking because I honestly don’t know the answer to this question.

Note : I’m just trying to help here.

I can't remember the chain of operations now.
I couldn't sign in with my sock puppet name.
The initial request was obviously ignored.
Only Aussie can accept sock puppet members.

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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 47678 Gender:	Re: Relationship of PA to death Reply #296 - May 30^th, 2023 at 8:26am Redmond Neck wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 7:45am: That is why I withdrew, he is a disgusting cheat! You're just a Choker. Even worse.
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Re: Relationship of PA to death
Reply #297 - May 30^th, 2023 at 8:32am

Aussie wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 9:35pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 9:29pm:

The only other option is that the post office still has the money.

Or....that it has been stolen but Monk will not co-operate in having that resolved. I wonder why?

Not my envelope, not my problem,

Your envelope, which you received, with your name on the front. Go to the cops, nothing to do with me. IIRC the envelope was posted late Feb—you can search back and get a more definite date.

You didn’t want the money or cake, you “didn’t check with the Post Office” now you “want cops to investigate” a “missing” envelope with $60 in it? Really? I doubt anyone believes you.

Pathetic and desperate is how you look.

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Re: Relationship of PA to death
Reply #298 - May 30^th, 2023 at 9:07am

Jovial Monk wrote on May 30^th, 2023 at 8:32am:

Aussie wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 9:35pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 29^th, 2023 at 9:29pm:

The only other option is that the post office still has the money.

Or....that it has been stolen but Monk will not co-operate in having that resolved. I wonder why?

Not my envelope, not my problem,

Your envelope, which you received, with your name on the front. Go to the cops, nothing to do with me. IIRC the envelope was posted late Feb—you can search back and get a more definite date.

You didn’t want the money or cake, you “didn’t check with the Post Office” now you “want cops to investigate” a “missing” envelope with $60 in it? Really? I doubt anyone believes you.

Pathetic and desperate is how you look.

Yes, I told you to stick your cake, and your money. There it could have ended. But no, not you, not Monk, who just cannot allow anyone else to finalise a matter.

You had to DEMAND that you be given a PO address of my choosing so you could send $60.00. I have already posted about this etc.

I did not comply with your demand, leaving it open for you to send the $60.00 to the same bank account you reckoned you had previously send money to, for me.

Then, I get notice that you had sent it to a PO more than 300 MILES from me, from to collect.

Get fu

ck

ed. If you sent it there, it is still there, or your sister has it at the RTS address...but I doubt you ever sent it, as if you had, it would be in your sister's hands right now.....UNLESS it has been stolen by someone imping me.

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Re: Relationship of PA to death
Reply #299 - May 30^th, 2023 at 9:27am

Not quite right.

I told you the PO I I intended to send it to. You squealed that it was too far. I then said wtte “OK, send me a PO closer to you.” This was Sunday afternoon but by 10.00am the next morning you had nominated no post office so I sent it to the one I nominated in the first place.

JohnSmith then posted a phone number where you could check the envelope was there and have it sent to you.

That is just what you did.

Your name is on the front of the envelope, you can have a fake police investigation done without further input from me.

My name is NOT on the envelope, my responsibility ended when I pushed it into a APO letterbox.

Christ you are pathetic and desperate. You were not strong enough not to check whether the envelope was at my nominated PO, end of story.

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« Last Edit: May 30^th, 2023 at 1:46pm by Jovial Monk »

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