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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #15 - May 20^th, 2023 at 1:59pm

issuevoter wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 10:39am:

AusGeoff wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 9:34am:

issuevoter wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 9:05am:

Stan Grant is a conflicted half-caste as many of the more rabid ones are. Recently he said, and I quote, "The Crown tried to exterminate my people." First of all, which people are his people. Assuming he was talking about Aboriginal ancestors, he is either ignorant of history and instructions for Governors concerning the natives, or he is deliberately using his celebrity to mislead the public in the run up to the referendum. Either way, he is an arsehole.

Apparently you've posted this comment for no other reason
than to broadcast your own offensive racist viewpoint, and
give it a prominence it doesn't deserve?

And to describe Grant as an "arsehole" requires a lot more
confirmatory evidence in order to give it any actual veracity.

What in particular—in your opinion—justifies your description
of Grant? Is it based, perhaps, solely on the fact that he's and
Aboriginal, and you despise all Aboriginals?

And if so, is that not the height of racism? Or are you proud
to be a racist?

You avoid the facts I posted which shows your bias. You people just want to shout down anyone who doesn't fit into your world.

As far as I can tell, you didn't post any actual "facts". Your
words as I quoted them were nothing more than another not
too thinly disguised racist rant.

And what's with this silly phrase "you people"? Please clarify.
(Makes you sound like Pauline Hanson LOL.)

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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #16 - May 20^th, 2023 at 2:13pm

AusGeoff wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 1:59pm:

issuevoter wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 10:39am:

AusGeoff wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 9:34am:

issuevoter wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 9:05am:

Stan Grant is a conflicted half-caste as many of the more rabid ones are. Recently he said, and I quote, "The Crown tried to exterminate my people." First of all, which people are his people. Assuming he was talking about Aboriginal ancestors, he is either ignorant of history and instructions for Governors concerning the natives, or he is deliberately using his celebrity to mislead the public in the run up to the referendum. Either way, he is an arsehole.

Apparently you've posted this comment for no other reason
than to broadcast your own offensive racist viewpoint, and
give it a prominence it doesn't deserve?

And to describe Grant as an "arsehole" requires a lot more
confirmatory evidence in order to give it any actual veracity.

What in particular—in your opinion—justifies your description
of Grant? Is it based, perhaps, solely on the fact that he's and
Aboriginal, and you despise all Aboriginals?

And if so, is that not the height of racism? Or are you proud
to be a racist?

You avoid the facts I posted which shows your bias. You people just want to shout down anyone who doesn't fit into your world.

As far as I can tell, you didn't post any actual "facts". Your
words as I quoted them were nothing more than another not
too thinly disguised racist rant.

And what's with this silly phrase "you people"? Please clarify.
(Makes you sound like Pauline Hanson LOL.)

Do your homework and check out Grant's ignorant statement. You sensitive new-age fruitcakes think than anyone of colour must be a saint. Grant's Aboriginality would having him dining on wichetty grubs if it wasn't for the ancestors of the people he despises. Ironically, some of them are his too.

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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #17 - May 20^th, 2023 at 3:21pm

Boris wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 11:50am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 11:46am:

Boris wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 8:35am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 10:50pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, your real Racism on display, Matty. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

devaluation dehumanisation invalidation

Spoken like a true Racist hypocrite, Matty. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

devaluation dehumanisation invalidation

You are a Narcissist

Spoken like a true Racist hypocrite, Matty. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #18 - May 20^th, 2023 at 3:55pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Boris wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 11:50am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 11:46am:

Boris wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 8:35am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 10:50pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, your real Racism on display, Matty. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

devaluation dehumanisation invalidation

Spoken like a true Racist hypocrite, Matty. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

devaluation dehumanisation invalidation

You are a Narcissist

Spoken like a true Racist hypocrite, Matty. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You are a Narcissist

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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #19 - May 20^th, 2023 at 4:01pm

Boris wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 3:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 3:21pm:

Boris wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 11:50am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 11:46am:

Boris wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 8:35am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 10:50pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, your real Racism on display, Matty. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

devaluation dehumanisation invalidation

Spoken like a true Racist hypocrite, Matty. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

devaluation dehumanisation invalidation

You are a Narcissist

Spoken like a true Racist hypocrite, Matty. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You are a Narcissist

Spoken as you look in a mirror, hey, Matty? The only poster displaying the characteristics of a narcissist is yourself. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #20 - May 20^th, 2023 at 5:24pm

issuevoter wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 9:05am:

Stan Grant is a conflicted half-caste as many of the more rabid ones are. Recently he said, and I quote, "The Crown tried to exterminate my people." First of all, which people are his people. Assuming he was talking about Aboriginal ancestors, he is either ignorant of history and instructions for Governors concerning the natives, or he is deliberately using his celebrity to mislead the public in the run up to the referendum. Either way, he is an arsehole.

No.... he's not even half.

He's trying hard to look half.

Anyone else would pilloried for going blackface & racial appropriation.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106403 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A Reply #21 - May 20^th, 2023 at 6:08pm What did Stan say during the funeral that caused over 1,000 complaints? Jump to 1:07
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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #22 - May 21^st, 2023 at 12:06am

Hell, No, Big Old Stan!
We don't want your phoney tan!

... and now a little hit from Country Joe and the Fish .....

"Well come on all of you big strong Cheers,
Uncle Stan's got his eyes full of tears,
The story is Uncle Stan's in a jam,
Trying to get up a decent tan
So put down your books and pick up a flag,
We're gonna have a whole lotta Cheers to rag...

And it's one two three,
What is he tanning for?
Who cares, we don't give a damn,
Don't vote for a phoney tan
And it's five six seven
Open up the voice debate,
Ain't no reason and we know why,
It's just full of hate.....

Country Joe and the Fish!!!!...... (whistles, cheers... fade .....)

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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #23 - May 21^st, 2023 at 8:35am

issuevoter wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 2:13pm:

AusGeoff wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 1:59pm:

issuevoter wrote on May 20^th, 2023 at 10:39am:

You avoid the facts I posted which shows your bias. You people just want to shout down anyone who doesn't fit into your world.

As far as I can tell, you didn't post any actual "facts". Your
words as I quoted them were nothing more than another not
too thinly disguised racist rant.

And what's with this silly phrase "you people"? Please clarify.
(Makes you sound like Pauline Hanson LOL.)

Do your homework and check out Grant's ignorant statement. You sensitive new-age fruitcakes think than anyone of colour must be a saint. Grant's Aboriginality would having him dining on wichetty grubs if it wasn't for the ancestors of the people he despises. Ironically, some of them are his too.

Oh dear... now I'm a "sensitive new-age fruitcake"! Grin

I guess at 76 years of age I should take that as a compliment? Thank you!

Seriously though, I think you'd better quit while you're still a little
ahead of this debate. You're only digging a deeper racist hole
for yourself to crawl out of... maybe.

And I'm yet to see any legitimate complaints from you about Grant.
Well, other than of course crude, denigrating insults—for the one
and only reason (apparently) that he's Aboriginal.

Incidentally, Grant is professor of Global Affairs at Griffith University
in Queensland, and a vice-chancellor of Australian-Indigenous Belonging
at Charles Sturt University in NSW. Presumably then you see
yourself better qualified to debate Aboriginal affairs? I'd hate to
think you're just another keyboard warrior hiding behind the cover
of anonymity.

BTW, I'm surprised that as you claim to know a lot about Aborigines'
traditional diet that you don't know how to spell witchetty grubs. Telling?

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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #24 - May 21^st, 2023 at 8:49am

As most respondents here appear to have very little concept of
Stan Grant's background (other than he's an Aboriginal, and
therefore a legitimate target for racial abuse) I've posted his
LinkedIn résumé below.

"In a 30 year career in journalism. I have anchored major programs
in Australia and internationally. I have reported from more than 60
countries covering the major events of the last two decades: war in
Iraq and Afghanistan, international terrorism, the Israeli-
Palestinian conflict, the Pakistan earthquake, 2005 tsunami, Japan
quake, tsunami and nuclear crisis, the end of apartheid in South
Africa and release of Nelson Mandela, the Northern Ireland troubles
and ceasefire, the death of princess Diana, the hand over of Hong
Kong, a decade covering the rise of china and inside the closed
world of North Korea.

I have won numerous awards including three Walkley awards, two
Peabody awards , Alfred I DuPont award, four Asia TV awards, an
Australian TV logie award, GQ Magazine agenda setter of the year,
International Indigenous trailblazer award, two Australian Academy
of Cinema Television Awards, Australian Screen Producers Award,
Australian Heritage Literature Award, Association of International
Sports Journalists award.

I was previously senior international correspondent for CNN based
in Beijing, Asia, Middle East, international editor for Sky News
Australia, Managing Editor National Indigenous Television, Chief
Asia Correspondent Australian Broadcasting Corporation, and
Professor of Global Affairs Griffith University.

I have published four critically acclaimed and best selling books on
identity and Australian Indigenous history. My focus of research and
writing is around questions of identity, belonging, nationhood. My
specialty is geo-politics, political philosophy, and race studies."

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Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10641 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A Reply #25 - May 21^st, 2023 at 9:00am Jasin wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 11:48pm: Anyone from the military who says "dearie, dearie, me" is a POOFTA !!!
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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #26 - May 21^st, 2023 at 12:54pm

AusGeoff wrote on May 21^st, 2023 at 8:49am:

As most respondents here appear to have very little concept of
Stan Grant's background (other than he's an Aboriginal, and
therefore a legitimate target for racial abuse) I've posted his
LinkedIn résumé below.

"In a 30 year career in journalism. I have anchored major programs
in Australia and internationally. I have reported from more than 60
countries covering the major events of the last two decades: war in
Iraq and Afghanistan, international terrorism, the Israeli-
Palestinian conflict, the Pakistan earthquake, 2005 tsunami, Japan
quake, tsunami and nuclear crisis, the end of apartheid in South
Africa and release of Nelson Mandela, the Northern Ireland troubles
and ceasefire, the death of princess Diana, the hand over of Hong
Kong, a decade covering the rise of china and inside the closed
world of North Korea.

I have won numerous awards including three Walkley awards, two
Peabody awards , Alfred I DuPont award, four Asia TV awards, an
Australian TV logie award, GQ Magazine agenda setter of the year,
International Indigenous trailblazer award, two Australian Academy
of Cinema Television Awards, Australian Screen Producers Award,
Australian Heritage Literature Award, Association of International
Sports Journalists award.

I was previously senior international correspondent for CNN based
in Beijing, Asia, Middle East, international editor for Sky News
Australia, Managing Editor National Indigenous Television, Chief
Asia Correspondent Australian Broadcasting Corporation, and
Professor of Global Affairs Griffith University.

I have published four critically acclaimed and best selling books on
identity and Australian Indigenous history. My focus of research and
writing is around questions of identity, belonging, nationhood. My
specialty is geo-politics, political philosophy, and race studies."

Up until a decade or so ago he never mentioned his Aboriginality.

He's had a great career - what has that got to do with his Aboriginality?

Why is it racist to criticise an individual for the choices they make?

i.e. becoming a born again Aboriginal & tanning it up to make it more convincing

& bagging out the Monarchy, colonisation, the country & system that gave him his education & the opportunity to make a career in journalism & enjoy the rewards & renown he now enjoys. Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42283	Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A Reply #27 - May 21^st, 2023 at 5:21pm ABC to review response to racism after Stan Grant accused broadcaster of 'institutional failure'
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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #28 - May 22^nd, 2023 at 7:20am

Which racism is the ABC going to review - the real racism or the latte` cafe` sit down discussion kind?

I mean - Adam Goodes and the Ape Man reference had nothing to do with his Aboriginality... just a look...... the beard etc... as for Lateral.... the 'black dog' was a reference to how depressing it is to see him carve up the opposition.....

If someone called me something like that I'd take it on proudly as my trademark... you know..... misogynist, bigot...

"In the red cornah... the Bigoted Misogynist (**growls at audience**) (booo... hisss) ... the world's champeen..... and in the blue cornah tonight's contender for the Title ......... The Universal Sycophant (cheers, whistles)....."

Hey - where's Karnal ... doing time or something?

".. the more I read through his file, the more The Karnal got the hook in me..... about a thousand desecrations...... tours of the Granville toilets..... one time he claimed that four high ranking Granville faggots were behind all the acts.... nobody listened.... so he had all four character assassinated..... and desecrations in his backyard dropped off to zero.... he must've hit the right four....... now he'd vanished up the Ning Nong River fighting his own little war..... and winning for control of the Granville toilets.....

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