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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #30 - May 22nd, 2023 at 9:30am
 
Gnads wrote on May 21st, 2023 at 12:54pm:
Up until a decade or so ago he never mentioned his Aboriginality.

Not so.  His Aboriginality was acknowledged when he was working
as an international reporter in 1997.       Twenty six years ago.

Gnads wrote on May 21st, 2023 at 12:54pm:
He's had a great career - what has that got to do with his Aboriginality?

Well, if you have to ask that question, then you're obviously unaware
that Grant was probably the very first Aboriginal person
to make any impact upon—until then—a very white, Anglo media
industry.  He was a ground-breaker.

Gnads wrote on May 21st, 2023 at 12:54pm:
Why is it racist to criticise an individual for the choices they make?

Disingenuous much?  It was not primarily Grant's decision to leave
the ABC.  It was effectively forced upon him under a torrent of
offensive, abusive comments across the media and across the
interwebs.  With 99% of them being based on racism and fear of
"the other".

Gnads wrote on May 21st, 2023 at 12:54pm:
... becoming a born again Aboriginal & tanning it up to make it more convincing

This is a classic example of offensive, ignorant, bigoted racism—
even if you don't recognise it in your own comments here.

Gnads wrote on May 21st, 2023 at 12:54pm:
... bagging out the Monarchy, colonisation, the country & system that gave him his education & the opportunity to make a career in journalism & enjoy the rewards & renown he now enjoys.

Oh please!   Not this tired old rubbish!   You're obviously one of the
older white Australians that refuse to accept that the English settlers
brutalised, raped and killed Aborigines as a matter of course.  Naturally,
Grant and his indigenous peers will tend to be anti-monarchist. 
You need to accept that simple concept as fact.

And as for Grant's career, he's got where he is by sheer hard work and
perseverance in the face of racial obstacles, and determination.

Nobody handed him any of his successes on a platter;  he simply took
advantage of the educational system available to any other non-
indigenous person.


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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #31 - May 22nd, 2023 at 10:13am
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 7:20am:
...I mean - Adam Goodes and the Ape Man reference had nothing to do with his Aboriginality... just a look...... the beard etc... as for Lateral.... the 'black dog' was a reference to how depressing it is to see him carve up the opposition...

Do you genuinely believe what you're saying here?

Quote:
Having been lauded for his response to a young female Collingwood
supporter calling Sydney Swans star Adam Goodes an "ape" over
the fence, McGuire then suggested on his breakfast radio show that
Goodes could be involved in the promotion of the musical 'King Kong',
sparking outrage from Goodes and many others in the media and
sporting worlds.
The Conversation, 31 May 2013.


And the unnamed Sydney Roosters fan who called Latrell Mitchell
a "black dog" most definitely was NOT referring to the Black Dog
that's commonly used to describe depression.

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 7:20am:
If someone called me something like that I'd take it on proudly as my trademark... you know... misogynist, bigot...

LOL... seriously?  If you were Aboriginal, there's NO way you'd
"proudly" take on either of those racial slurs as your "trademark".
You're making that absurd claim from behind the safety of a white
man's keyboard.  And you'd not have the courage if you were to
see either Goodes or Mitchell across the street to shout at them
with racial abuse.

And yes—you ARE a bigot.      Wear the badge proudly.

            ...

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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #32 - May 22nd, 2023 at 12:17pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 9:30am:
Gnads wrote on May 21st, 2023 at 12:54pm:
Up until a decade or so ago he never mentioned his Aboriginality.

Not so.  His Aboriginality was acknowledged when he was working
as an international reporter in 1997.       Twenty six years ago.

Gnads wrote on May 21st, 2023 at 12:54pm:
He's had a great career - what has that got to do with his Aboriginality?

Well, if you have to ask that question, then you're obviously unaware
that Grant was probably the very first Aboriginal person
to make any impact upon—until then—a very white, Anglo media
industry.  He was a ground-breaker.

Gnads wrote on May 21st, 2023 at 12:54pm:
Why is it racist to criticise an individual for the choices they make?

Disingenuous much?  It was not primarily Grant's decision to leave
the ABC.  It was effectively forced upon him under a torrent of
offensive, abusive comments across the media and across the
interwebs.  With 99% of them being based on racism and fear of
"the other".

Gnads wrote on May 21st, 2023 at 12:54pm:
... becoming a born again Aboriginal & tanning it up to make it more convincing

This is a classic example of offensive, ignorant, bigoted racism—
even if you don't recognise it in your own comments here.

Gnads wrote on May 21st, 2023 at 12:54pm:
... bagging out the Monarchy, colonisation, the country & system that gave him his education & the opportunity to make a career in journalism & enjoy the rewards & renown he now enjoys.

Oh please!   Not this tired old rubbish!   You're obviously one of the
older white Australians that refuse to accept that the English settlers
brutalised, raped and killed Aborigines as a matter of course.
  Naturally,
Grant and his indigenous peers will tend to be anti-monarchist. 
You need to accept that simple concept as fact.

And as for Grant's career, he's got where he is by sheer hard work and
perseverance in the face of racial obstacles, and determination.

Nobody handed him any of his successes on a platter;  he simply took
advantage of the educational system available to any other non-
indigenous person.




What's obvious is you wouldn't know ....

I'm younger than you Methuselah

but I'll ask you these questions -

what has any of that history got to do with or what affect does it have on Stan Grant in the present?

What would Stan be doing now had that not occurred?

What makes Stan any different from any other successful person who has worked hard & became a success?

Don't tell me it's just because he's an Aboriginal or part thereof?

Why is it that you think dragging up the past to run it like a never ending guilt trip has any merit in reconciliation when all it does is widen the division?

Just as the Voice will do.

What racial obstacles were put before him in the Journalism trade?

I think that's an over used cop out.

If Grant is so staunch in his Aboriginality why did he leave his 1st wife (Aboriginal) for a white woman?




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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #33 - May 22nd, 2023 at 1:40pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 10:13am:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 7:20am:
...I mean - Adam Goodes and the Ape Man reference had nothing to do with his Aboriginality... just a look...... the beard etc... as for Lateral.... the 'black dog' was a reference to how depressing it is to see him carve up the opposition...

Do you genuinely believe what you're saying here?

Quote:
Having been lauded for his response to a young female Collingwood
supporter calling Sydney Swans star Adam Goodes an "ape" over
the fence, McGuire then suggested on his breakfast radio show that
Goodes could be involved in the promotion of the musical 'King Kong',
sparking outrage from Goodes and many others in the media and
sporting worlds.
The Conversation, 31 May 2013.


And the unnamed Sydney Roosters fan who called Latrell Mitchell
a "black dog" most definitely was NOT referring to the Black Dog
that's commonly used to describe depression.

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 7:20am:
If someone called me something like that I'd take it on proudly as my trademark... you know... misogynist, bigot...

LOL... seriously?  If you were Aboriginal, there's NO way you'd
"proudly" take on either of those racial slurs as your "trademark".
You're making that absurd claim from behind the safety of a white
man's keyboard.  And you'd not have the courage if you were to
see either Goodes or Mitchell across the street to shout at them
with racial abuse.

And yes—you ARE a bigot.      Wear the badge proudly.

            https://i.postimg.cc/Sxppk5Zq/Screenshot-2023-05-22-at-10-11-22-162456783-bicolo...




The unnamed Sydney Roosters fan was unnamed because he was a minor & it wasn't a criminal offence .....

the same is applied to minors who commit serious crimes, sometimes heinous crimes.

Why should that kid be named & then hammered in public or on social media by all the people offended for Latrine Mitchell?

Would you be happy if he was then hounded until he took his own life?
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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #34 - May 22nd, 2023 at 2:13pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 19th, 2023 at 9:02pm:
I want a job citing racial abuse....


No worries. Get yourself a job as a Paki Bastard.

Aussies are free to apply.
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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #35 - May 22nd, 2023 at 2:45pm
 

Stan found a job as a tap dancer:




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Reply #36 - May 22nd, 2023 at 3:03pm
 
Your Racism is showing, Bobby.  Not funny at all.  Wasn't funny when Matty used the same clip.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #37 - May 22nd, 2023 at 3:05pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:03pm:
Your Racism is showing, Bobby.  Not funny at all.  Wasn't funny when Matty used the same clip.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Hello - what was racist?
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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #38 - May 22nd, 2023 at 3:22pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 2:45pm:
Stan found a job as a tap dancer:







He was the highest paid entertainer in the world -
loved by Blacks and Whites before
all the woke nonsense hit us.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jolson

Jolson was America's most famous and highest paid entertainer in the 1930s.
Jolson sang and acted in the first (full length) talking movie, The Jazz Singer in 1927.
He starred in many other musical movies in the 1930s.
A movie about Jolson's life, The Jolson Story, won Oscars in 1946.
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Reply #39 - May 22nd, 2023 at 3:23pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:05pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:03pm:
Your Racism is showing, Bobby.  Not funny at all.  Wasn't funny when Matty used the same clip.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Hello - what was racist?


Your likening him to a black and white minstrel.  Your comments about his complexion.  Your harping on about his Indigenous being non-genuine.  Bobby, you might be stirring but it is coming across as Racist.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #40 - May 22nd, 2023 at 3:37pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:05pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:03pm:
Your Racism is showing, Bobby.  Not funny at all.  Wasn't funny when Matty used the same clip.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Hello - what was racist?


Your likening him to a black and white minstrel.  Your comments about his complexion.  Your harping on about his Indigenous being non-genuine.  Bobby, you might be stirring but it is coming across as Racist.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Al Jolson was the highest paid entertainer in the world.
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Reply #41 - May 22nd, 2023 at 3:48pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:37pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:05pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:03pm:
Your Racism is showing, Bobby.  Not funny at all.  Wasn't funny when Matty used the same clip.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Hello - what was racist?


Your likening him to a black and white minstrel.  Your comments about his complexion.  Your harping on about his Indigenous being non-genuine.  Bobby, you might be stirring but it is coming across as Racist.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Al Jolson was the highest paid entertainer in the world.


Jolson was Jewish.  Do you draw anti-Semitic comparisons between him and the Nazi like caricatures of Jews, Bobby or is that too insulting even for you?  Like most Racists you hide behind the idea that you are, "simply making a joke," without consideration of the wider ramifications of what you are doing.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #42 - May 22nd, 2023 at 3:52pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:05pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:03pm:
Your Racism is showing, Bobby.  Not funny at all.  Wasn't funny when Matty used the same clip.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Hello - what was racist?


Your likening him to a black and white minstrel.  Your comments about his complexion.  Your harping on about his Indigenous being non-genuine.  Bobby, you might be stirring but it is coming across as Racist.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Stan Grant's display of tanning over the years seems to have made Donald Trump's fake tan look normal.
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Reply #43 - May 22nd, 2023 at 3:54pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:05pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:03pm:
Your Racism is showing, Bobby.  Not funny at all.  Wasn't funny when Matty used the same clip.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Hello - what was racist?


Your likening him to a black and white minstrel.  Your comments about his complexion.  Your harping on about his Indigenous being non-genuine.  Bobby, you might be stirring but it is coming across as Racist.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Stan Grant's display of tanning over the years seems to have made Donald Trump's fake tan look normal.


You mean his lack of white-face upsets you, Unsub?  Why do you remain silent on Bobby's likening him to a black and white minstrel?  Mmmm?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #44 - May 22nd, 2023 at 3:54pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:37pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:05pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 22nd, 2023 at 3:03pm:
Your Racism is showing, Bobby.  Not funny at all.  Wasn't funny when Matty used the same clip.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Hello - what was racist?


Your likening him to a black and white minstrel.  Your comments about his complexion.  Your harping on about his Indigenous being non-genuine.  Bobby, you might be stirring but it is coming across as Racist.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Al Jolson was the highest paid entertainer in the world.


Jolson was Jewish.  Do you draw anti-Semitic comparisons between him and the Nazi like caricatures of Jews, Bobby or is that too insulting even for you?  Like most Racists you hide behind the idea that you are, "simply making a joke," without consideration of the wider ramifications of what you are doing.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Jews are OK -
if I was living in Israel I'd be siding with the Jews
not Muslims who would cut my head off with a carving knife
while saying Allah Akbar.
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