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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #90 - May 23^rd, 2023 at 11:27am

Bobby. wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 3:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 3:03pm:

Your Racism is showing, Bobby. Not funny at all. Wasn't funny when Matty used the same clip. Tsk, tsk, tsk...

Hello - what was racist?

If you even have to ask that question Bobby, then it's more than
obvious that you have no concept of what the words "racist" or
"racism" even mean in the 21st century.

You seem not to appreciate that a white man wearing blackface in
1922 was considered by the predominantly white American
population as perfectly normal—and clever or funny. Or that
African-Americans were largely employed only in menial jobs that
were seen as beneath the dignity of their white bosses, and the
wider society.

You might like to check out this site to appraise yourself of just
how offensively blacks were treated 100 years ago in the US, in
particular. Lynchings of blacks were still occurring as late as 1939
in the US... amazingly only 6 years before I was born!

         Black Americans 1929-1941.

And now, a century later in Australia, Stan Grant has been subjected,
covertly but often openly, to a similar form of racism—simply
because of his race.      And yes, I know he was attacked primarily
for his colonisation comments during the Coronation broadcast
on the ABC, but had similar comments been made by a white,
Anglo Australia, then the outrage would've been not a fraction of
that generated by a black man.

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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #91 - May 23^rd, 2023 at 11:29am

Karnal wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 1:04am:

Gnads wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 5:50pm:

Karnal wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 5:44pm:

Gnads wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 5:38pm:

Karnal wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 5:34pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 21^st, 2023 at 12:06am:

Hell, No, Big Old Stan!
We don't want your phoney tan!

... and now a little hit from Country Joe and the Fish .....

"Well come on all of you big strong Cheers,
Uncle Stan's got his eyes full of tears,
The story is Uncle Stan's in a jam,
Trying to get up a decent tan
So put down your books and pick up a flag,
We're gonna have a whole lotta Cheers to rag...

And it's one two three,
What is he tanning for?
Who cares, we don't give a damn,
Don't vote for a phoney tan
And it's five six seven
Open up the voice debate,
Ain't no reason and we know why,
It's just full of hate.....

Country Joe and the Fish!!!!...... (whistles, cheers... fade .....)

Just so. If he's a real Boong, why's he getting about in a suit?

Shouldn't he be standing on one leg with a spear?

Like you?

The spear being symbolic of your Patpong Boy plunger? .... yes?

Gordon! It is you!

I must say, we always wondered who he was, dear. Harris Park landlord my arse.

You.

Have you been doing a bit of bi on the side?

Only Lisa thinks everyone is everyone else ...no?

Does she now? You haven't been fingering any of our fine Boong specimens again have you, dear?

You are naughty. I do hope you got to marry that Persian princess of yours, Gonads. Your wife will be able to whip up a plateful of ladies fingers quicker than you can say choppy choppy - in Lao.

Yep you have Lisa Syndrome .... I'm not Gordon Roll Eyes

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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #92 - May 23^rd, 2023 at 11:33am

buzzanddidj wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 10:57am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 19^th, 2023 at 6:48pm:

For years I've been a media target for racism and paid a heavy price. For now, I want no part of it – I'm stepping away Shocked

Stan Grant steps away from Q+A citing 'relentless' racial abuse, accuses ABC of 'institutional failure' over coronation coverage backlash Roll Eyes

Just to add MY "two cents worth" - I LOATHE Stan Grant - and it has NOTHING to do with his Aboriginality.

I LOATH Lisa Miller (ABC Breakfast co-anchor) for the same reasons, not because she's a woman.

You are BOTH APPALLING interviewers, WAY too in love with the sound of your own voices.

Stan Grant, we KNOW you're of Aboriginal decent.
We DON'T need to be reminded every time the interviewee is in the middle (attempting to) answer your every question.
As an alleged adjudicator, you and your massive ego have made QandA almost unwatchable.

And, Stan, could you and your make-up lady choose a skin tone - and stick to it.
So we won't be wondering if Casper the Ghost or Robert Mugabe will be joining us next.

Lisa Miller, if you want to be taken as a "serious journalist" stop laughing like a drunken schoolgirl every time a news story mentions "your Queenland" - and leave a few openings in your rather crass dialogue, should anyone else want to get a word in, edgeways.

And get a light for your bedroom - or a full-time wardrobe coordinator - as I'm sure we BOTH know what a disaster it can be, getting an outfit together at 3AM

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A fair summation of both.

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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #93 - May 23^rd, 2023 at 12:38pm

Gnads wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 12:17pm:

AusGeoff wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 9:30am:

Not so. His Aboriginality was acknowledged when he was working
as an international reporter in 1997.... Grant was probably the very first Aboriginal person to make any impact upon—until then—a very white, Anglo media industry. He was a ground-breaker.

What's obvious is you wouldn't know ....

I'm younger than you Methuselah

Uh... what exactly do you mean by this? I'm assuming you're
acknowledging my superior worldly wisdom accrued over many
decades of looking, and listening, and learning. As my dear old
mum used to say when I was being a smartarse as a kid, "You
can't put an old head on young shoulders".

Gnads wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 12:17pm:

...what has any of that history got to do with or what affect does it have on Stan Grant in the present?

Well, I'd have thought it was pretty obvious. Grant is still fighting
the lingering racism today that was the norm even fifty years ago.
And it's obvious that you're too young in order to fully understand
why it is that Grant's decided to leave the ABC.

Gnads wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 12:17pm:

What would Stan be doing now had that not occurred?

Well, in all likelihood, exactly the same job. But attaining his
current position and expertise was made all the harder by the
discrimination and racism he encountered along the way. And he
survived it to get where he is today.

Gnads wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 12:17pm:

What makes Stan any different from any other successful person who has worked hard & became a success?

Oh dear... are you just playing dumb, or what? Grant is "different"
from other people because he's not a conservative, white, Anglo
man or woman—men and women who never had to contend with
covert racism throughout their career-building period; who've
never faced cowardly, aggressive, ignorant racial slurs on social
media or in the printed media.

People such as Ray Martin, Jenny Brockie, David Speers, Ellen Fanning,
David Koch, Leigh Sales, George Negus, Annabel Crabb, Terry Willesee,
or Phillip Adams.

Oh... wait... they're all white. What a surprise!

Gnads wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 12:17pm:

Why is it that you think dragging up the past to run it like a never ending guilt trip has any merit in reconciliation when all it does is widen the division?

Nice deflection there LOL. We're talking about the blatant racism
that Stan Grant is facing today, in case you hadn't noticed.

Gnads wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 12:17pm:

I think that's an over used cop out.

What do you mean by "cop out" in this scenario? Please clarify.

Gnads wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 12:17pm:

If Grant is so staunch in his Aboriginality why did he leave his 1st wife (Aboriginal) for a white woman?

Stan and Karla's aboriginality had absolutely nothing to do with their
divorce. It was put down simply as irreconcilable differences. At
any rate, there are hundreds (thousands?) of Aboriginal men married
to white women. And if—as you appear to imply—you think that Aboriginal
men should only marry Aboriginal women, then you really are living in
the era of 1950's black and white TV.

If you think Grant married Tracey Holmes because she was white or
non-Aboriginal, then you know very little about love or life. As you get a
bit older, you may well rethink some of your unsound current opinions
—a lot of which miss the point from the get-go.

Cheesy

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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #94 - May 23^rd, 2023 at 12:58pm

buzzanddidj wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 10:57am:

Just to add MY "two cents worth" - I LOATHE Stan Grant - and it has NOTHING to do with his Aboriginality.

Of course it does.

And I really think you've overvalued your opinion at 2¢ LOL.

You should've given it to us for free.

buzzanddidj wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 10:57am:

And, Stan, could you and your make-up lady choose a skin tone - and stick to it.
So we won't be wondering if Casper the Ghost or Robert Mugabe will be joining us next...

Well, I'd say this qualifies as the most reprehensibly racist
comment we're going to see today. And this from someone
who claims that their loathing for Grant has nothing to do
with his aboriginality!

And of course, we all know that this sort of racism is only
ever voiced from behind the anonymity of a white keyboard
warrior's desk. Given the chance to say this sort of thing
face to face with an Aboriginal person—such as Grant—all
we'd hear would be an awkward silence.

Angry

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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #95 - May 23^rd, 2023 at 1:55pm

AusGeoff wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 11:27am:

Bobby. wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 3:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 22^nd, 2023 at 3:03pm:

Your Racism is showing, Bobby. Not funny at all. Wasn't funny when Matty used the same clip. Tsk, tsk, tsk...

Hello - what was racist?

If you even have to ask that question Bobby, then it's more than
obvious that you have no concept of what the words "racist" or
"racism" even mean in the 21st century.

You seem not to appreciate that a white man wearing blackface in
1922 was considered by the predominantly white American
population as perfectly normal—and clever or funny. Or that
African-Americans were largely employed only in menial jobs that
were seen as beneath the dignity of their white bosses, and the
wider society.

You might like to check out this site to appraise yourself of just
how offensively blacks were treated 100 years ago in the US, in
particular. Lynchings of blacks were still occurring as late as 1939
in the US... amazingly only 6 years before I was born!

         Black Americans 1929-1941.

And now, a century later in Australia, Stan Grant has been subjected,
covertly but often openly, to a similar form of racism—simply
because of his race.      And yes, I know he was attacked primarily
for his colonisation comments during the Coronation broadcast
on the ABC, but had similar comments been made by a white,
Anglo Australia, then the outrage would've been not a fraction of
that generated by a black man.

You know nothing about Al Jolson.
Black people adored him -
he helped Black people get jobs in show business. Roll Eyes

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106403 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A Reply #96 - May 23^rd, 2023 at 2:01pm Last night- Stan wallows in self pity:
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96378	Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A Reply #97 - May 23^rd, 2023 at 3:50pm Bobby. wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 2:01pm: Last night- Stan wallows in self pity: Just so, dear. Pity for the News Ltd-inspired internet trolls. Good thing we don't have any of them around here, eh?
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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #98 - May 23^rd, 2023 at 3:53pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 10:15am:

Karnal wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 1:14am:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 12:40am:

Brian, did you misread my admission that I was a confessed racist?

Not at all.

Lock it in, Setanta. That's three down, in this thread alone.

Looks like we're getting somewhere, leftards.

Is the idea that I think differing races are legitimately an explanation of differing personalities, a problem?

No, but the idea that Stan should wear white make-up to be presentable on TV is, dear.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96378	Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A Reply #99 - May 23^rd, 2023 at 3:54pm John Smith wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 8:41am: Bobby. wrote on May 23^rd, 2023 at 7:39am: Stan had no right to hijack a funeral for his own political aims. what crap you hijack peoples death for your political agenda every time someone tinted does something. Are you special? Special Needs, I think.
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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #100 - May 23^rd, 2023 at 5:06pm

Commissioner for Race & Discrimination speaks out on behalf of Stand Grant and also Adam Goodes.
If you listen to what he says, he's basically having a go at the Media for sensationalising and antagonising 'hatred'. Well, what have we seen from the Media and its antagonising 'Victimhood' narrative in the first place?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/q-a-host-critiques-role-of-media-after-...

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Re: Stan Grant to resign from Q+A
Reply #102 - May 23^rd, 2023 at 5:15pm

ABC's Director Justin Stevens has a juvenile rant of blaming News Corp for the Racism against Stan Grant.

Makes you wonder what Stan Grant did to 'deserve' all this 'backlash'? Was it his 'racism' against British Royalty having a ceremony in Britain?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/paul-murray-hits-back-at-abc-s-news-directo...

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