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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 40870	Some Americans want gun law reform, it seems Jun 12^th, 2023 at 5:17pm Gavin Newsom wants 28th Amendment for guns in U.S. Constitution
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Re: Some Americans want gun law reform, it seems
Reply #1 - Jun 12^th, 2023 at 8:31pm

Newsom is a disaster for the people of California and will be one for the whole country if he ever obtains higher office.

How many time are you people going to cut that board and complain it is still too short.

The real problem is the Norman Rockwell's America is now considered Far Right and Sodom and Gomora is now considered mainstream!

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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 40870	Re: Some Americans want gun law reform, it seems Reply #2 - Jun 12^th, 2023 at 10:30pm
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Re: Some Americans want gun law reform, it seems
Reply #3 - Jun 12^th, 2023 at 11:03pm

The Americans have the 2A to protect them from gun grabbing bedwetters like Brian Ross
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It doesn't matter how much Brian whinges about gun laws in the US he isn't going to change anything.

Brian can't say anything about Islamic death penalty for atheists he is a hypocrite or munafiq in Arabic

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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15th, 2013 at 5:39pm:
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Is this the Islam you are so keen to defend with your "fair deal" nonsense, what about those who no longer believe in that bullshit barfed up by a 7th century desert bandit do they deserve a fair deal like article 18 of the Universal declaration of human rights?

7 nations where atheism is punishable by death.
All 7 establish Islam as the state religion.
Pakistan,Saudi Arabia,Iran,Afghanistan,Sudan,Mauritania and the Maldives
www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/10/the-seven-countries-where-...

I make no excuses for those nations and their laws, BV. I merely recognise that it is their right to create and unfortunately impose those punishments. It is terrible but I also recognise

I have no right or ability to criticise them. I am neither a member of their religion or a citizen of any of those nations

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https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1379233325

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Re: Some Americans want gun law reform, it seems
Reply #4 - Jun 13^th, 2023 at 7:15am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12^th, 2023 at 11:03pm:

The Americans have the 2A to protect them from gun grabbing bedwetters like Brian Ross
Grin

It doesn't matter how much Brian whinges about gun laws in the US he isn't going to change anything.

Brian can't say anything about Islamic death penalty for atheists he is a hypocrite or munafiq in Arabic

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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15th, 2013 at 5:39pm:
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Is this the Islam you are so keen to defend with your "fair deal" nonsense, what about those who no longer believe in that bullshit barfed up by a 7th century desert bandit do they deserve a fair deal like article 18 of the Universal declaration of human rights?

7 nations where atheism is punishable by death.
All 7 establish Islam as the state religion.
Pakistan,Saudi Arabia,Iran,Afghanistan,Sudan,Mauritania and the Maldives
www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/10/the-seven-countries-where-...

I make no excuses for those nations and their laws, BV. I merely recognise that it is their right to create and unfortunately impose those punishments. It is terrible but I also recognise

I have no right or ability to criticise them. I am neither a member of their religion or a citizen of any of those nations

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https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1379233325

This is a great example the typical left wing nut case.
Piss and moan about anything the media tells them to piss and moan about.

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➤ A Slim Majority of Americans Want Gun Law Reform
Reply #5 - Jun 13^th, 2023 at 8:57am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12^th, 2023 at 5:17pm:

Gavin Newsom wants 28th Amendment for guns in U.S. Constitution Shocked

How is it done?...Amending the United States Constitution.......

You would need 2/3^rds of all the Representatives in the US House of Representatives (290 of the 435), along with 2/3^rds of all the Senators in the US Senate (67 of the 100) to completely agree to the wording of your 'new amendment', & then & only then can it be sent to the 50 individual US States where 3/4^ths of all the States in those individual 50 States (38 of the 50 States) must agree as well. Then & only then can your New Amendment become part of the United States Constitution, & become the Law of the Land.

FACT:
Over 12,000 Proposed Amendments have been suggested to Amend the US Constitution since 1789......
of those 12,000+ suggestions only 33 were passed as required by both Houses of Congress & sent to the individual States (The People) for Ratification
.......& of those only 17 Amendments were passed & successfully ratified by the American People......

Good Luck!!

Until then this is the Constitutional Right of the American People:

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 136371 Gender:	Re: ➤ A Slim Majority of Americans Want Gun Law Reform Reply #6 - Jun 13^th, 2023 at 9:24am Panther wrote on Jun 13^th, 2023 at 8:57am: ... 17 Amendments were passed & successfully ratified by the American People...... Indeed. Proof it can be done.
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Re: ➤ A Slim Majority of Americans Want Gun Law Reform
Reply #7 - Jun 13^th, 2023 at 10:13am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2023 at 9:24am:

Panther wrote on Jun 13^th, 2023 at 8:57am:

... 17 Amendments were passed & successfully ratified by the American People......

Indeed.

Proof it can be done.

Yes, absolutely!

17 Amendments in 230+ years.....

If the American People Really, Really, Really want to amend their Constitution they absolutely can. After all it's their document, not the Government's.

As I noted so many times before....America is not a Democracy where 50%+1 (a Majority) rules the day.....

So the procedures to amend the US Constitution requires a very broad consensus, & a slim majority has never, & will never, cut it.

That's the way the American Founding Fathers intended. If the Cherished American Constitution is ever in need of an update, the American People must have a very broad consensus to do so, unlike in many other Countries where they amend their Constitutions, at every whim, via referendums with ever so slim majorities.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 40870	Re: Some Americans want gun law reform, it seems Reply #8 - Jun 13^th, 2023 at 10:51am
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⮞ A slim Majority of Americans want gun law reform
Reply #9 - Jun 13^th, 2023 at 11:13am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2023 at 10:51am:

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Not enough SweetPea. Just barely enough to elect a dog catcher, but not anywhere near enough to Change the American Constitution....but you keep on tryin' like an ant to move the rubber tree plant....ain't happin'......

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Reply #10 - Jun 13^th, 2023 at 11:55am

I have to laugh! Cheesy

EVERY time a thread mentions US firearms laws or the
2nd Amendment, out crawls Panther from under his
rock. He refuses to acknowledge the dire situation the
US finds itself in with regard to its massive death toll from
guns—the worst in any first world country, and even
many third-world countries.

• America has the weakest gun laws and the most
guns—393 million—of any comparable nation.

• The US accounts for just 4% of the world’s
population but 35% of global firearm suicides.

• Americans are 25 times more likely to be killed in a
gun homicide than people in other high-income countries.

To date this year in the US, there have been 8,305
gun homicides, and 10,758 gun suicides, with 290
mass shootings (4+ deaths).

So... I openly challenge Panther to respond to these
data, and explain exactly how he can morally justify
the tenets of the 2nd Amendment. I also ask him if
he's unperturbed by the number of firearm deaths,
and in particular the deaths of 794 innocent children?

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Reply #11 - Jun 13^th, 2023 at 12:38pm

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 13^th, 2023 at 11:55am:

I also ask him if
he's unperturbed by the number of firearm deaths,
and in particular the deaths of 794 innocent children?

He doesn't care.

He views his personal 2nd Amendment "rights" as more important than a few deaths here and there.

You cannot reason with these people.

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Re: ⮞ A slim Majority of Americans want gun law reform
Reply #12 - Jun 13^th, 2023 at 12:39pm

Panther wrote on Jun 13^th, 2023 at 11:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2023 at 10:51am:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/1962/fyDNl4.jpg

Not enough SweetPea. Just barely enough to elect a dog catcher, but not anywhere near enough to Change the American Constitution....but you keep on tryin' like an ant to move the rubber tree plant....ain't happin'...... https://imgur.com/6jAsC9L.gif

You don't need to change the constitution in order to have more sensible gun control which saves the lives of hundreds of children every year.

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Re: ⮞ A slim Majority of Americans want gun law reform
Reply #13 - Jun 13^th, 2023 at 1:02pm

Panther wrote on Jun 13^th, 2023 at 11:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13^th, 2023 at 10:51am:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/1962/fyDNl4.jpg

Not enough SweetPea. Just barely enough to elect a dog catcher, but not anywhere near enough to Change the American Constitution....but you keep on tryin' like an ant to move the rubber tree plant....ain't happin'...... https://imgur.com/6jAsC9L.gif

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⮞ A slim Majority of Americans want gun law reform
Reply #14 - Jun 13^th, 2023 at 1:05pm

AusGeoff wrote on Jun 13^th, 2023 at 11:55am:

I have to laugh! Cheesy

EVERY time a thread mentions US firearms laws or the
2nd Amendment, out crawls Panther from under his
rock. He refuses to acknowledge the dire situation the
US finds itself in with regard to its massive death toll from
guns—the worst in any first world country, and even
many third-world countries.

https://i.postimg.cc/SNPG75rx/Screenshot-2023-06-13-at-11-23-01-Statistics.png

• America has the weakest gun laws and the most
guns—393 million—of any comparable nation.

• The US accounts for just 4% of the world’s
population but 35% of global firearm suicides.

• Americans are 25 times more likely to be killed in a
gun homicide than people in other high-income countries.

To date this year in the US, there have been 8,305
gun homicides, and 10,758 gun suicides, with 290
mass shootings (4+ deaths).

So... I openly challenge Panther to respond to these
data, and explain exactly how he can morally justify
the tenets of the 2nd Amendment. I also ask him if
he's unperturbed by the number of firearm deaths,
and in particular the deaths of 794 innocent children?

My answer to all of your 'data' is......

The Law - The US Constitution:

I stand by our American Rights, an American's Right to use whatever arms We the American People deem necessary....not the government, including deadly force, to protect our own lives, the lives of our family, the lives of our friends & neighbors, & to protect our personal property.

Now if you don't like my answer, too bad......suck it up & get over it.......

If you don't like the Law, I suggest you go about changing it if you think you have the power to change it....

I like my Rights to keep & bear arms just the way they are, & if I am ever called upon to, I am prepared to defend my Rights, Rights that only 'We the American People' have the power to repeal.

Now, if proposed gun laws do not affect the criminals who are responsible for committing the crimes, but only negatively affect those the crimes are committed against....law-abiding Americans, then that's a bad law.....& that law must be disregarded in total, & nullified via our non-compliance.....by We, the American People......

Americans must not comply with any gun ban that only affects the Law-Abiding, & does not affect the criminals who have proven time & time again that they will ignore any law in order to commit their heinous crimes......

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