thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 8^th, 2023 at 6:02pm:


Yes....and what is the problem?  We all here rave on and give advice to Government, and guess what...we are ignored.

Same same.

Frank wrote on Jul 8^th, 2023 at 6:20pm:


Of course we are, and if any idiot was dumb enough to get all pissed off about freediver censoring or allowing naughty stuff like defamation to stand published, we DO have ultimate recourse to the High Court.

That is what you just don't understand.  The High Court is there to sort out disputes about things like freedom of speech and interpretation of legislation, and the Constitution.  That is its bloody boring hum drum soup of the day, day job, you idiot.

Frank wrote on Jul 8^th, 2023 at 7:06pm:


If I were to take a point about 'freedom of speech,' and have the bank roll of Palmer, the High Court could do exactly what I said.

Note the word 'could.'

That is precisely the point.  'Could.'

Any moron can knock on the door.....anyone...even you.

The referendum for an Indigenous voice to parliament has suffered a collapse in support among women voters and in the regions as the referendum heads toward defeat, with just 41 per cent of voters now saying they will vote yes.

For the first time, women are now more likely than men to vote no, a central change to core support based on gender.

The No vote in the regions has also blown out to 62 per cent, confirming a widening demographic split between city and bush.


The Albanese government faces a deteriorating outcome with overall support for the voice to parliament and executive government falling further in the past three weeks in the wake of confusion over its function and scope.

The latest Newspoll survey shows 48 per cent of voters say they now intend to vote no, confirming a widening margin between the two camps and the lowest level of backing for the model since it was first proposed by the Albanese government.

It confirms a downward trend in support, dropping from 46 per cent in favour in May, to 43 per cent in June and 41 per cent in the latest survey.

The No vote has risen from 43 per cent, to 47 per cent and now 48 per cent over the same period. No date has been set for the referendum, which is likely to be held in October.

But in a reflection of the targeted campaign by the No camp, the greatest shift in sentiment has been among women voters, with a 10-point fall in support in the past three weeks.

Just 38 per cent of female voters now say they approve.

By contrast, support among male voters increased seven points to 45 per cent with 47 opposed, while 49 per cent of female voters now indicated a No vote.

Support in regional communities has also fallen sharply from 40 per cent in favour in June, to 31 per cent in the latest survey, with the No vote rising from 51 per cent to 62 per cent. The only key demographics showing support above 50 per cent were among 18-to-34-year-olds and the university-educated. But even then, among these groups favourability has fallen.

In the previous survey 63 per cent of younger voters approved of the proposed referendum compared to 59 per cent in the latest poll – with a rise in the number who now say they are undecided.

The No vote has also hardened among the older demographics, while those aged between 35 to 49 showed a two-point rise in support to 46 per cent compared to 43 per cent opposed.

While there was little movement along party lines among Labor, Coalition and Greens supporters, support among those identifying as minor party or independent voters fell nine points to just 20 per cent.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/women-regional-voters-lead-rebellion-on-indigenous-voice-to-parliament-newspoll/news-story/d3ca1abea8a004a5cd3b1bb220e63d88

Yeah, yeah, whatever, Matty, whatever.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   

Aussie wrote on Jul 8^th, 2023 at 6:34pm:


So you're actually arguing for the NO case ... because we all have - including Aboriginals - the same representation & voices to PARLIAMENT ....YES?

Gnads wrote on Jul 17^th, 2023 at 1:02pm:


Of course the structure needs to be detailed and explained. We are referring to the Constitution ffs! But that’s just it with this BS Referendumb ...nothing much is known.

No clue about costings either!

Labor seems to think it has the mandate to insult Australians by expecting them to cop these costs 👇

$336.6 MILLION for the AEC to deliver the referendum”

“ONGOING COSTS of a representative body - as the design of the proposed Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice to Parliament has not been finalised, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO SAY HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST.”

Edit : OMG - the reason for why there is no idea about the ongoing cost is wait for it.....the design ie the structure of the body is not even known.

You’d have to be stark raving insane to vote YES to that  rubbish!

Yeah, yeah, whatever, Matty, whatever.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...