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Re: Vote No
Reply #270 - Aug 9th, 2023 at 8:34am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 17th, 2023 at 2:41pm:
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That's never what the YES pushers keep saying - !


That's because you completely ignore reality
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Reply #271 - Aug 11th, 2023 at 9:20am
 
Former prime minister Tony Abbott has invoked the spirit of US civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr and late Labor legend Bob Hawke in an attack on an Indigenous voice to parliament.

Speaking at an Institute of Public Affairs event in Perth on Wednesday night, Mr Abbott said a successful referendum on the voice would “entrench victimhood in our constitution forever”.

“The past isn’t perfect, but our responsibility is to make the present and the future as good as we humanly can. This generation of migrants and the descendants of migrants are not oppressors. This generation of Indigenous people are not victims.

“Citing … the wonderful words of Bob Hawke back on Australia Day in 1988, ‘we are a country with no hierarchy of descent. We are a country with no privilege of origin’.

“Citing the immortal words of Martin Luther King from an earlier generation, ‘I want to live in a country where my four children are judged not by the colour of their skin, but by the content of their character’.

“My absolute desire is that we can go forward as one equal people and that’s why I’ll be voting no. Because I absolutely reject any suggestion that there is something fundamentally wrong with this great country, Australia.”

He said the coming referendum would also give Australians an opportunity to cast judgment on “some of the crazy things that have been happening in our country”.

“I’ll be voting no to a few things. I’ll be voting no to the voice, sure, but I’ll be voting no to the climate cult, I’ll be voting out … the virus hysteria, I’ll be voting no to the gender fluidity crisis, I’ll be voting no to the ‘Magic Pudding’ economics.

“And I’ll be voting no to this crazy cultural self-loathing that afflicts this country along with so many other countries of the English speaking world, which should know better.”

Mr Abbott’s visit to Perth follows the backflip earlier this year by the Western Australian Cook government on the Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act. The act, which had only been in place for less than six weeks, is now being repealed after a strong backlash from WA farmers.

The former prime minister said an Indigenous voice to parliament would be like the Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act “on steroids”.

“If you actually read the lengthy documents that stand as part of and behind the one-page Uluru statement, they are permeated by a sense of anger, grievance, entitlement and sovereignty,” he said.

“The essential thesis of the people who put together the Uluru statement and are pushing so hard for this voice, is that what happened in 1788 and subsequently was essentially illegal, unfair, unjust, and as far as is humanly possible needs to be atoned for and reversed.”

He said while Australia’s history had “many blemishes” and that efforts by the Crown to protect Aboriginal people “didn’t always work out”, the country’s history compared favourably with colonised nations like Argentina, Brazil or the Congo.

Mr Abbott received a standing ovation from the 250 attendees in the room.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/tony-abbott-loud-in-rejection-o...
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Reply #272 - Aug 11th, 2023 at 9:32am
 
Aboriginal Supremacist Manifesto....
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Reply #273 - Aug 11th, 2023 at 9:33am
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2023 at 8:34am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 17th, 2023 at 2:41pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 7th, 2023 at 12:25pm:
Sure...it will provide advice to Government and the Executive, said advice having no binding or other influence over Government or the Executive.

Anything else you want to know.



That's never what the YES pushers keep saying - !


That's because you completely ignore reality


When did you even approach reality?
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Reply #274 - Aug 11th, 2023 at 9:40am
 
"Timothy J. Lynch is a professor of political science at the University of Melbourne."

Amazing that such a dissenting view would even get a look in at MU .... the mythical land of MU ...
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Reply #275 - Aug 16th, 2023 at 12:15pm
 
It is only down to those who have asked questions that we now know the Uluru Statement seeks to alter how our governing powers are exercised in this country, dividing people according to race.

With this background, Australians are beginning to realise welcome to county ceremonies are simply a way of conditioning us for what is to come. When non-Indigenous people are “welcomed” to country, it suggests we are being welcomed to a country that is not ours, to a country that belongs to others.

If that is the case then, not unreasonably, many people can see a direct line from a welcome to country to treaty and reparations. Thomas Mayo and, somewhat more theatrically, Midnight Oil, suggest Australians may need to “pay the rent”.

This only makes sense if we are tenants of land owned by others. The problem for most Australians is that they thought this was one country with a single and exclusive sovereignty in which we all had those rights to land granted by parliament and our courts.

Constant attempts, especially by the ABC, but also many others, to rename our cities and places performs a similar function of conditioning us minus consent.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/welcome-to-country-guilt-politics-cant-force-true-respect/news-story/f2d946cd45eac37a3c6b7f4454d1a1dd
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Reply #276 - Aug 16th, 2023 at 12:20pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 9:33am:
John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2023 at 8:34am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 17th, 2023 at 2:41pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 7th, 2023 at 12:25pm:
Sure...it will provide advice to Government and the Executive, said advice having no binding or other influence over Government or the Executive.

Anything else you want to know.



That's never what the YES pushers keep saying - !


That's because you completely ignore reality


When did you even approach reality?


when i moved away from you
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Perfectly Articulated Reasons To Vote NO
Reply #277 - Aug 16th, 2023 at 12:31pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 9:20am:
Former prime minister Tony Abbott has invoked the spirit of US civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr and late Labor legend Bob Hawke in an attack on an Indigenous voice to parliament.


Speaking at an Institute of Public Affairs event in Perth on Wednesday night, Mr Abbott said a successful referendum on the voice would “entrench victimhood in our constitution forever”.

“The past isn’t perfect, but our responsibility is to make the present and the future as good as we humanly can. This generation of migrants and the descendants of migrants are not oppressors. This generation of Indigenous people are not victims.

“Citing … the wonderful words of Bob Hawke back on Australia Day in 1988, ‘we are a country with no hierarchy of descent. We are a country with no privilege of origin’.

“Citing the immortal words of Martin Luther King from an earlier generation, ‘I want to live in a country where my four children are judged not by the colour of their skin, but by the content of their character’.


“My absolute desire is that we can go forward as one equal people and that’s why I’ll be voting no. Because I absolutely reject any suggestion that there is something fundamentally wrong with this great country, Australia.”

He said the coming referendum would also give Australians an opportunity to cast judgment on “some of the crazy things that have been happening in our country”.

“I’ll be voting no to a few things. I’ll be voting no to the voice, sure, but I’ll be voting no to the climate cult, I’ll be voting out … the virus hysteria, I’ll be voting no to the gender fluidity crisis, I’ll be voting no to the ‘Magic Pudding’ economics.

“And I’ll be voting no to this crazy cultural self-loathing that afflicts this country along with so many other countries of the English speaking world, which should know better.”

Mr Abbott’s visit to Perth follows the backflip earlier this year by the Western Australian Cook government on the Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act. The act, which had only been in place for less than six weeks, is now being repealed after a strong backlash from WA farmers.

The former prime minister said an Indigenous voice to parliament would be like the Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act “on steroids”.

“If you actually read the lengthy documents that stand as part of and behind the one-page Uluru statement, they are permeated by a sense of anger, grievance, entitlement and sovereignty,” he said.

“The essential thesis of the people who put together the Uluru statement and are pushing so hard for this voice, is that what happened in 1788 and subsequently was essentially illegal, unfair, unjust, and as far as is humanly possible needs to be atoned for and reversed.”

He said while Australia’s history had “many blemishes” and that efforts by the Crown to protect Aboriginal people “didn’t always work out”, the country’s history compared favourably with colonised nations like Argentina, Brazil or the Congo.

Mr Abbott received a standing ovation from the 250 attendees in the room.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/tony-abbott-loud-in-rejection-o...


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Reply #278 - Aug 16th, 2023 at 1:23pm
 
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Reply #279 - Aug 16th, 2023 at 1:26pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2023 at 12:20pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 9:33am:
John Smith wrote on Aug 9th, 2023 at 8:34am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 17th, 2023 at 2:41pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 7th, 2023 at 12:25pm:
Sure...it will provide advice to Government and the Executive, said advice having no binding or other influence over Government or the Executive.

Anything else you want to know.



That's never what the YES pushers keep saying - !


That's because you completely ignore reality


When did you even approach reality?


when i moved away from you


You moved closer..... just around the corner.....
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Reply #280 - Aug 16th, 2023 at 1:28pm
 
So none of you get to skate out from under:-

https://www.skynews.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Document-14-1.pdf

Who ever thought I'd find myself agreeing with Tony Abbott?  Truly national disasters breed strange belief fellows... all those other issues he mentions I am also voting NO to - this voice NO is just our first stepping stone.... The Great Reset has begun .... he forgot to mention affirmative action and quotas..... more politics of division and exclusion ... all the things I warned Albo to stay away from - but he just couldn't help himself.

Too much under the sway of the pussy in Labor these days and no man to stand up against their incessant smarmy 'educated' demands.  Educated in a vapid and misdirected school and further education system these days that is intended to exclude boys from the start to 'validate' girls.... FFS.

On the gender politics and gay politics front - I now find my honest self allied with lesbians who want their spaces left sacrosanct from marauding men.  It's the legacy of my German forebears - what is right is right..... stick to it even if it hurts.
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Reply #281 - Aug 30th, 2023 at 9:24am
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 26th, 2023 at 7:41pm:
Get that refund,  ya dumbass


👆 Five Foot Five Frodo reminding himself to return his brain for a refund 😂🤣😆

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Reply #282 - Aug 30th, 2023 at 10:32am
 
Why a Constitutional amendment before establishing what the Voice actually is?

1. So it cannot be undone.

2. For radical activists, its about money from the tax payer.

3. The Labor Party realises that to achieve their attack on the ownership of private property, the old Red Flag in the street will not work. However, by making Australians think their title is invalid due to previous Native Title, the same thing is achieved while hiding behind a smoke screen of compassion.
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