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Reply #15 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 1:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 12:51pm:

.....The number of disasters has increased by a factor of five over the 50-year period, driven by climate change, more extreme weather and improved reporting.

In fact no. Do not be taken in by agenda mongering climate alarmism.

“Climate change has helped drive a fivefold increase in the number of weather-related disasters in the last 50 years,” reported National Public Radio last fall, citing a report by the U.N.’s World Meteorological Organization.

But the data also show that the number of climate related disasters actually declined over the last 20 years by about 10 percent.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2022/01/10/why-disasters-have-...

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Reply #16 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 1:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 12:49pm:

There has been a “staggering rise” in the number of extreme weather events over the past 20 years, driven largely by rising global temperatures and other climatic changes, according to a new report from the United Nations.

Not according to the IPCC- the Physical Science basis. -

"Floods - In summary there is low confidence in the human influence on the changes in high river flows on the global scale. Confidence is in general low in attributing changes in the probability or magnitude of flood events to human influence because of a limited number of studies and differences in the results of these studies, and large modelling uncertainties.

IPCC AR6 WG1 11.5.4

Droughts - There is medium confidence in the ability of ESMs to simulate trends and anomalies in precipitation deficits and AED, and also medium confidence in the ability of ESMs and hydrological models to simulate trends and anomalies in soil moisture and streamflow deficits, on global and regional scales

IPCC AR6 WG1 11.6.3.6

Cyclones - There is low confidence in most reported long-term (multi-decadal to centennial) trends in TC frequency- or intensity-based metrics due to changes in the technology used to collect the best-track data.

IPCC AR6 WG1 11.7.1.2"

So give us a list of these extreme weather events that are beyond assumption.

For the rest it is the models. Of course they have not been initialised, they have no start point as we really DON'T know the weather back to 1850 or 1870. For instance Sea Surface Temperatures, for the Southern Hemisphere, were not reliable before the Argo Buoys in the 1990's. And the Southern Hemisphere oceans make up most of the world's oceans.

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Re: World registers hottest day ever on July 3
Reply #17 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 1:48pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 12:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 11:51am:

Geologist, Professor Ian Plimer, utterly demolishes the
human-induced "climate emergency" fairy tale in three and a half minutes:

https://gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=240,quality=100,fit=scale-down/system/previe...

CPAC 2022

Professor Ian Plimer
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Watch distinguished Professor Ian Plimer’s presentation at CPAC Australia.
Brought to you by ADH TV.

"[Six of the six] great ice ages started when we had more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere than now.
We have 0.04% of that gas in the atmosphere...
Well that means nothing to me, because the atmosphere has changed in its carbon dioxide content from over 20% to now, which is really low in geological time.
If we halved it, all plant life would die, and animals would die."

Video here:

https://watch.adh.tv/cpac-2022/season:2/videos/cpac-2022-prof-ian-plimer

CPAC is a right-wing political organization.

They wouldn't have invited this guy or paid him if he was espousing action against AGW.

dear LTYC,
many blessings

You need to quote something he has said from the video
with a suitable time stamp and
then argue upon the merits or not.

forgiven

namaste

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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: World registers hottest day ever on July 3 Reply #18 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 1:48pm This data agrees with the argument that climate disasters are becoming more frequent and more costly.
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Re: World registers hottest day ever on July 3
Reply #19 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 2:28pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 12:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 11:51am:

Geologist, Professor Ian Plimer, utterly demolishes the
human-induced "climate emergency" fairy tale in three and a half minutes:

https://gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=240,quality=100,fit=scale-down/system/previe...

CPAC 2022

Professor Ian Plimer
18m

Watch distinguished Professor Ian Plimer’s presentation at CPAC Australia.
Brought to you by ADH TV.

"[Six of the six] great ice ages started when we had more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere than now.
We have 0.04% of that gas in the atmosphere...
Well that means nothing to me, because the atmosphere has changed in its carbon dioxide content from over 20% to now, which is really low in geological time.
If we halved it, all plant life would die, and animals would die."

Video here:

https://watch.adh.tv/cpac-2022/season:2/videos/cpac-2022-prof-ian-plimer

CPAC is a right-wing political organization.

They wouldn't have invited this guy or paid him if he was espousing action against AGW.

so what??

It's only true if Greta says so?

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Re: World registers hottest day ever on July 3
Reply #20 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 3:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 12:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 12:49pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 12:17pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 12:17pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 12:15pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 12:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 12:12pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 12:10pm:

ocean temps at record levels ??

hottest average temperature ever ??

Also we are witnessing more extreme weather events !!

Don't worry sir Nail.

just listen to Professor Ian Plimer - above.

he sounds like a crackpot. the extreme weather events are undeniable.

When was the last time without 'extreme weather event" - ie the good old times?

I'm not saying we never had them before but they are now becoming more frequent and more intense !!

Evidence?

There has been a “staggering rise” in the number of extreme weather events over the past 20 years, driven largely by rising global temperatures and other climatic changes, according to a new report from the United Nations.

Extreme Weather Events Have Increased Significantly in the Last 20 Years

From 2000 to 2019, there were 7,348 major natural disasters around the world, killing 1.23 million people and resulting in $2.97 trillion in global economic losses.

By comparison, the previous 20-year period, 1980-1999, had 4,212 natural disasters, claiming 1.19 million lives and causing $1.63 trillion in economic losses.

A disaster related to a weather, climate or water hazard occurred every day on average over the past 50 years – killing 115 people and causing US$ 202 million in losses daily, according to a comprehensive new report from the World Meteorological Organization (WMO).

Weather-related disasters increase over past 50 years

The number of disasters has increased by a factor of five over the 50-year period, driven by climate change, more extreme weather and improved reporting.

Climate change is causing the weather around the world to get more extreme, and scientists are increasingly able to pinpoint exactly how the weather is changing as the Earth heats up.

A sweeping new report by top climate scientists and meteorologists describes how climate change drove unprecedented heat waves, floods and droughts in recent years. The annual report from the American Meteorological Society (AMS) compiles the leading science about the role of climate change in extreme weather.

Climate change makes heat waves, storms and droughts worse, climate report confirms

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Re: World registers hottest day ever on July 3
Reply #21 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 3:33pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 1:48pm:

This data agrees with the argument that climate disasters are becoming more frequent and more costly.

It is only CPI related, Not GDP which is normally used. Wink

Also wildfires are not climate or weather. Roll Eyes

And don't you think it should be about Global disasters not merely USA? I mean we keep getting told the USA is not the world. Wink

https://www.statista.com/statistics/612561/natural-disaster-losses-cost-worldwid...

"Based on the U.N. goal, here I’ll focus on recent trends in direct economic losses relative to global gross domestic product (GDP). The evidence indicates that over the past 30 years, disaster losses as a percent of GDP have decreased. That is very good news."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerpielke/2019/10/31/surprising-good-news-on-the-...

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17339 Gender:	Re: World registers hottest day ever on July 3 Reply #22 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 3:36pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 3:23pm: Climate change makes heat waves, storms and droughts worse, climate report confirms Bow down before the models you heretics. Believe in the modelled world.
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Re: World registers hottest day ever on July 3
Reply #23 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 8:08pm

Frank wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 2:28pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 12:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 11:51am:

Geologist, Professor Ian Plimer, utterly demolishes the
human-induced "climate emergency" fairy tale in three and a half minutes:

https://gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=240,quality=100,fit=scale-down/system/previe...

CPAC 2022

Professor Ian Plimer
18m

Watch distinguished Professor Ian Plimer’s presentation at CPAC Australia.
Brought to you by ADH TV.

"[Six of the six] great ice ages started when we had more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere than now.
We have 0.04% of that gas in the atmosphere...
Well that means nothing to me, because the atmosphere has changed in its carbon dioxide content from over 20% to now, which is really low in geological time.
If we halved it, all plant life would die, and animals would die."

Video here:

https://watch.adh.tv/cpac-2022/season:2/videos/cpac-2022-prof-ian-plimer

CPAC is a right-wing political organization.

They wouldn't have invited this guy or paid him if he was espousing action against AGW.

so what??

It's only true if Greta says so?

Greta is not being Frank?

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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103244 Melbourne Gender:	Re: World registers hottest day ever on July 3 Reply #24 - Jul 5^th, 2023 at 8:15pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 5^th, 2023 at 8:08pm: Greta is not being Frank?
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