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All Lies
Jul 9^th, 2023 at 3:55pm

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A regularly repeated claim in public debate is that Indigenous Australians were covered by a flora and fauna act, which did not classify them as human beings, and that this only changed when the constitution was amended following the 1967 referendum.

For at least the past 10 years, academics, media commentators and Aboriginal people, including an Indigenous MP, have claimed this to be true.

The verdict
Ms Clanton's claim is a myth.

Aboriginal people in Australia have never been covered by a flora and fauna act, either under federal or state law.

But despite several attempts by various people to set the record straight, the myth continues to circulate, perhaps because, as one academic told Fact Check, it "embodies elements of a deeper truth about discrimination".

Although the claim has been repeated more frequently during the past 10 years, there is evidence to suggest the myth originated in the early 1970s.

Both an expert consulted by Fact Check and a museum website in Western Australia suggest several factors have given rise to the notion that a flora and fauna act once existed.

Such factors include the existence at one time or another of government departments and historical reports with titles that bring together the words "flora", "fauna" and "Aboriginal".

Also, a widespread and energetic campaign for a yes vote in the 1967 referendum played a crucial role in setting the conditions for the myth to emerge.

Experts told Fact Check that the referendum involved "dry" technical amendments to the constitution relating to Indigenous Australians.

As these were difficult to explain in a campaign-friendly way, campaigners for a yes vote instead pushed the idea of equal rights and justice for Aboriginal people.

The hugely successful referendum was thereby imbued with a symbolism that further enriched the conditions for the myth to take root; that before the constitution was amended, Indigenous Australians were classified according to a flora and fauna act — a completely incorrect conclusion.

Who else has made this claim?
In the 1960s, a civil rights organisation known as the Federal Council for the Advancement of Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders campaigned for Indigenous peoples' welfare and lobbied in favour of the 1967 referendum.

Professor Marcia Langton, one of Australia's most respected Indigenous academics, told Fact Check that the so-called flora and fauna act was first mentioned by pioneer Aboriginal filmmaker Lester Bostock during a council meeting in Canberra in the 1970s.
"Lester Bostock (now deceased) gave a regular speech about how we were classified under the 'flora and fauna act'," Professor Langton wrote in an email.

"I thought at the time, and so did many others, that he meant this in a metaphorical way. I had no idea that this would grow into the urban myth that it is today."

However, she added: "We were not classified under the 'flora and fauna act' but we were treated as animals."

Since the 1970s, the claim has been repeated many times.

On becoming the first Indigenous member of the NSW Parliament, Linda Burney said in her maiden speech on May 6, 2003: "For the first 10 years of my life, like all Indigenous people at that time, I was not a citizen of this country. We existed under the flora and fauna act of New South Wales."

Media outlets, bloggers, entertainers, and others have helped perpetuate the myth.

In 2013, comedian Charlie Pickering wrote in an opinion article published by Mamamia: "I know that until the 1967 referendum altered our constitution to include all Australians as enfranchised citizens, our first peoples were regulated by the flora and fauna act."

Academics and Aboriginal public figures, such as Sol Bellear, have also made the claim.

But, in 2017, Aboriginal artist Vernon Ah Kee told the ABC that it was only in jest that a 'flora and fauna act' was mentioned by Aboriginal people.

"Blackfellas jokingly say that we weren't considered people so we must be part of the flora and fauna act, but that's not even true. The fact is that we didn't exist at all."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-20/fact-check-flora-and-fauna-1967-referendu...

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Reply #1 - Jul 9^th, 2023 at 4:40pm

Of course it is all lies. Wilfu, deliberate lies.

The Uluru statement is militant. It offers no sentence of respect or gratitude to the Australian people. Yet it is hailed by Albanese as warm hearted and generous. He even announced in a memorial lecture in Adelaide recently that it was an invitation extended “to every single Australian in love and grace and patience”.

A disciple of Bruce Pascoe, Albanese admires his nonsensical Dark Emu theory. Pascoe believes Aboriginal Australia was the first real democracy in the world and for 80,000 years a haven of peace and prosperity. Albanese believes this utopia – in fact, it never existed – can in some ways be honoured if Indigenous people are compensated with special powers and rights.

Parliament in its recent debate did nothing to validate the Uluru accusation that mainstream Australians had refused for generations even to count Aboriginal people. In fact, these proud people were being counted before any one of us was born.

We can appreciate the sense of hurt in young, politically active Aboriginal people when they hear the myth that they, their parents and grandparents had not been deemed worthy of being counted in a census. More insulting, the young are led to believe that the sheep had been counted regularly – as undoubtedly they were – but not the Aboriginal people.

In parliament last month Tanya Plibersek mistakenly announced, in an otherwise informative address, that in 1901 the “Aboriginal people weren’t counted in the census or commonly allowed to vote”. Her ministerial colleague Catherine King told parliament that Aboriginal people – in the words of one informant – were powerless “simply because we were never identified as humans”. That can’t be true.

Linda Burney, born in a small Riverina township, is deservedly praised for making her way from a humble Aboriginal home to become a cabinet minister in Sydney and now in Canberra. But she has mistakenly insisted that as a young girl she was never in a census. “The notion that you weren’t worthy of being counted was very painful,” she exclaimed in July 2017. She once misinformed parliament that until the age of 10 she was not even a citizen. Instead, she claimed she was merely ranked under “the flora and fauna act” of NSW. Such a policy did not exist.

The first census to be conducted by commonwealth officers was in 1911, and the federal attorney-general instructed them to count “full-blood Aboriginals”. Understandably, the officers had to retreat when they reached remote areas where local inhabitants had seen no white person or heard a word of English. But tens of thousands of Aboriginal people were actually counted, often with enormous effort, in the accessible regions.

For a logical but slightly complicated reason, they were not – after the actual counting – included in the final tally of population. For instance, in apportioning a share of the federal customs revenue to each state, the smallish Aboriginal populations were not “reckoned” when finalising the payments to each state. Helen Irving’s book To Constitute a Nation neatly explains the reasons and the practice.

Today, visitors to the National Museum in Canberra are informed that not until 1971 were “Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples counted in the Australian census”. On the contrary, they had been counted in every federal census since 1901, and counted moreover in the face of obstacles confronted by few other national statisticians. Thus the state officials then in charge of that 1901 census specifically counted them. They set up a special category that comprised “full blood Aboriginals” and those “nomadic half castes” who were living with them. In the five mainland states they totalled 41,389. An even larger number could not be counted, being nomadic and too far distant.

There were precise censuses even before 1901, thus contradicting Albanese and the Uluru leaders. For example, South Australia, holding a census on Sunday, April 2, 1871, recorded the exact districts and towns where more than 5000 Aboriginal men and women lived.

Eye-opening was the census held on the same Sunday in gold-rich Victoria, where 731,528 people of all races were counted. Conducted by Henry Hayter, the census commanded respect from leading overseas statisticians. The main results were in the hands of parliamentarians barely two months later – a feat that is unimaginable in the age of fast computers.

Of those Victorian officials who took part in the detailed census, 918 went on horseback and 650 on foot. They investigated remote townships, huts and tents where only one or two Aboriginal people could be found. That the tally of these people had fallen since Victoria’s previous census in 1861 was evident, and it would continue to fall.

Four out of every 10 of the Victorian Aboriginal men said they were following a paid occupation; and that was a higher proportion than can be found in many remote Aboriginal settlements today. In Victoria, two of every five Aboriginal children of school age could read but fewer could write. Five Aboriginal adults were recorded as blind, and seven were over the age of 70, according to the census teams.

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Reply #2 - Jul 9^th, 2023 at 4:41pm

Hayter was meticulous. In the big printed edition of the census report he added a minor correction to the tally of 61,000 “Chinese and Aborigines” who had been separately counted: please “take 1 from the males and add 1 to the females”. Generally, the Aboriginal populations had considerably more males than females.

Across the globe most people alive in 1871 had not yet been counted officially. It is therefore remarkable that Aboriginal people in various towns and regions of Australia were systematically counted.

Other of our censuses were held before 1871, the year Albanese’s own ancestral land of Italy held its first nationwide census. One generation later, in 1897, the initial census in Russia’s vast empire at last enumerated famous individuals such as Finnish composer Jean Sibelius and Russian writers Leo Tolstoy and Fyodor Dostoevsky.

Unfortunately, the allegation – “a people not worth counting” – is now endorsed by some of the biggest business houses, by the football leagues and even by universities that are world-ranked for their research.

The leaders at Uluru insisted that their people had been powerless for generations This lament is also far-fetched.

In stressing the “torment of our powerlessness”, they did not know that in the late 1850s, in the three populous Australian colonies, most Aboriginal men were allowed to vote. This was a momentous event: most of Europe’s tens of millions of men had not yet won the right to vote. Indeed, a forgotten man of Aboriginal and convict ancestry won the rural seat of Young in NSW in 1889.

Another landmark – unknown to Uluru – was a general election held in 1896 in South Australia. This was probably the first government in the world to allow women not only to vote but also to stand for parliament. New Zealand women already had the first right but not the second.

In this same 1896 election in South Australia, even more revolutionary was the sight of Aboriginal women attending the polling booth. Martin Luther King might well have shaken his head in surprise if he had known of it.

Just pause and ponder for one minute: South Australia’s innovation occurred when 99 per cent of the women in the world did not have a vote. In renowned cities such as Paris, Berlin, London, New York, St Petersburg, Tokyo and Beijing, not one woman had the privilege now exercised by female Aboriginal voters in South Australia. Five years later in the first federal election various Aboriginal women must have voted – an election in which no white woman in the four eastern states was entitled to vote. These triumphs contradict the Uluru manifesto.

Indigenous people hope to gain a major say in shaping a beneficial treaty with the Australian nation; they demand a truth-telling tribunal dominated by the Indigenous; and they call for the right at times to influence vital spheres such as foreign policy. They will also break the golden rule of democracy: one person, one vote.

Meanwhile, their cry of “powerlessness” is a kind of crocodile tear. In the past half-century Aboriginal groups have been handsomely recognised by their acquisition – under the Fraser and Keating governments – of ownership or certain rights and interests in 55 per cent of the Australian land mass. Few Australian voters know this fact. It constitutes one of the largest peaceful transfers of land in the history of the modern world.
Geoffrey Blainey
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/before-we-vote-on-indigenous-voice-to-parliament-lets-get-all-our-facts-in-order/news-story/a878a85d7a6eed0170fb399c71875058

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Reply #3 - Jul 9^th, 2023 at 4:47pm

Yeah, yeah, lets rewrite history, hey? Lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous culture, lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous families, lets forget about Indigenous tribes and society, lets forget about the deliberate attempt to breed out Indigenous people, hey? What silly sausages you are, Matty and Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #4 - Jul 9^th, 2023 at 5:00pm

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For an excellent account of why the Voice is not the answer to Aboriginal disadvantage: Peter Sutton's account of Aboriginal politics from the 1970s on, The Politics of Suffering, applies the same unblinkered look at the successes and failures of Aboriginal policy that he applied to eviscerate the fictions of Dark Emu. The Politics of Suffering was endorsed by Marcia Langton and she wrote a forward for it. (She has apparently forgotten the lessons of Sutton's lucid analysis.) In this book Sutton observes that the situation of the most disadvantaged Aborigines has actually deteriorated under the progressive policies of the forty-year period he documents. Sutton reasons that reconciliation organised by the state cannot succeed, and that formalising the separation of Indigenous Australians will inevitably lead to disharmony in the Australian community. He points out that reconciliation can only be achieved at the individual level and that each Australian will arrive at that point at different times. Dividing Australians by race will perpetuate Aboriginal disadvantage by signalling their permanent victimhood. New generations of activists can never be satisfied by the manifest gains already achieved and will inevitably spend their efforts on the political rather than the practical relief of violence and suffering.

https://socialsciences.org.au/publications/peter-sutton-the-politics-of-sufferin...

https://insidestory.org.au/driven-into-action/

https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2021/10/real-life-in-the-past-and-real-life-now...

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Reply #5 - Jul 9^th, 2023 at 5:01pm

A commenter:
For an excellent account of why the Voice is not the answer to Aboriginal disadvantage: Peter Sutton's account of Aboriginal politics from the 1970s on, The Politics of Suffering, applies the same unblinkered look at the successes and failures of Aboriginal policy that he applied to eviscerate the fictions of Dark Emu. The Politics of Suffering was endorsed by Marcia Langton and she wrote a forward for it. (She has apparently forgotten the lessons of Sutton's lucid analysis.) In this book Sutton observes that the situation of the most disadvantaged Aborigines has actually deteriorated under the progressive policies of the forty-year period he documents. Sutton reasons that reconciliation organised by the state cannot succeed, and that formalising the separation of Indigenous Australians will inevitably lead to disharmony in the Australian community. He points out that reconciliation can only be achieved at the individual level and that each Australian will arrive at that point at different times. Dividing Australians by race will perpetuate Aboriginal disadvantage by signalling their permanent victimhood. New generations of activists can never be satisfied by the manifest gains already achieved and will inevitably spend their efforts on the political rather than the practical relief of violence and suffering.

https://socialsciences.org.au/publications/peter-sutton-the-politics-of-sufferin...

https://insidestory.org.au/driven-into-action/

https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2021/10/real-life-in-the-past-and-real-life-now...

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Reply #6 - Jul 11^th, 2023 at 7:21am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

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Yeah, yeah, lets rewrite history, hey? Lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous culture, lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous families, lets forget about Indigenous tribes and society, lets forget about the deliberate attempt to breed out Indigenous people, hey? What silly sausages you are, Matty and Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Lies - they were naked stone age cannibals that rape murder and eat babies

They ate babies up to 1990 and it still goes on I believe

In the Alice they still rape and murder babies - and dogs

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Reply #7 - Jul 11^th, 2023 at 11:05am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

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Yeah, yeah, lets rewrite history, hey? Lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous culture, lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous families, lets forget about Indigenous tribes and society, lets forget about the deliberate attempt to breed out Indigenous people, hey? What silly sausages you are, Matty and Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Which European culture has remained unchanged since the late 18th century, Bbwian?

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Reply #8 - Jul 11^th, 2023 at 11:43am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

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Yeah, yeah, lets rewrite history, hey? Lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous culture, lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous families, lets forget about Indigenous tribes and society, lets forget about the deliberate attempt to breed out Indigenous people, hey? What silly sausages you are, Matty and Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Get out of your guilt trip closet of the past you fool.

If reparations & compensation are to be endless then Australia should be claiming same from Great Britain.

In fact the Australian govt was still repaying GB for infrastructure projects until relatively recently.

Are you all for tearing it all down & everyone non Aboriginal migrating?

Be a few box tickers that would have to go as well.

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Reply #9 - Jul 11^th, 2023 at 2:27pm

Boris wrote on Jul 11^th, 2023 at 7:21am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

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Yeah, yeah, lets rewrite history, hey? Lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous culture, lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous families, lets forget about Indigenous tribes and society, lets forget about the deliberate attempt to breed out Indigenous people, hey? What silly sausages you are, Matty and Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Lies - they were naked stone age cannibals that rape murder and eat babies

They ate babies up to 1990 and it still goes on I believe

Where is your evidence, Matty? Surely someone would have recorded the deaths? Oh, dearie, dearie, me, there is none. You are a Troll and you keep maintaining this lie, all without evidence. Run along, back under your bridge, Troll, I can hear some goats approaching. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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In the Alice they still rape and murder babies - and dogs

Yeah, yeah, again you never present any evidence. Another old wives tale to keep the children hiding their heads under the blankets, hey? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #10 - Jul 11^th, 2023 at 2:28pm

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2023 at 11:05am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

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Yeah, yeah, lets rewrite history, hey? Lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous culture, lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous families, lets forget about Indigenous tribes and society, lets forget about the deliberate attempt to breed out Indigenous people, hey? What silly sausages you are, Matty and Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Which European culture has remained unchanged since the late 18th century, Bbwian?

That is Europe's problem, Soren. This is Australia. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #11 - Jul 11^th, 2023 at 2:32pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 11^th, 2023 at 11:43am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

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Yeah, yeah, lets rewrite history, hey? Lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous culture, lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous families, lets forget about Indigenous tribes and society, lets forget about the deliberate attempt to breed out Indigenous people, hey? What silly sausages you are, Matty and Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Get out of your guilt trip closet of the past you fool.

If reparations & compensation are to be endless then Australia should be claiming same from Great Britain.

In fact the Australian govt was still repaying GB for infrastructure projects until relatively recently.

Are you all for tearing it all down & everyone non Aboriginal migrating?

Be a few box tickers that would have to go as well.

No, I am not interested in migration for non-Indigenous people from Australia. That is a very Racist concept only a real Racist would think of. I am in favour of all the Racists migrating and leaving Australia to the people who want to live together with the Indigenes. Run along, I can hear your flight getting ready. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #12 - Jul 11^th, 2023 at 4:02pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2023 at 2:28pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2023 at 11:05am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

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Yeah, yeah, lets rewrite history, hey? Lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous culture, lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous families, lets forget about Indigenous tribes and society, lets forget about the deliberate attempt to breed out Indigenous people, hey? What silly sausages you are, Matty and Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Which European culture has remained unchanged since the late 18th century, Bbwian?

That is Europe's problem, Soren. This is Australia. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

It is not Europe's 'problem', Doktor Wanker. It illustrates that no culture is static, exempt from change, even drastic, violent change called history. It happens to all, including Abos, Europeans, everyone. Tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

As for 'deliberate attempt to breed out' : "The Indigenous population is projected to continue to grow at a much faster rate than the non-Indigenous population over at least the next 20 years. One explanation for this rapid growth is a high rate of mixed marriage partnerships with the children of these partnerships tending to be identified as Indigenous. In 2011, 56.5 per cent of partnered Indigenous males had a non-Indigenous partner, slightly lower than the corresponding figure of 59.0 per cent for Indigenous females. These percentages represent a steady increase from the previous 2006 Census, rising from 52.4 per cent and 55.5 per cent respectively. In some of our largest cities (like Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne, Adelaide, Newcastle and the Gold Coast), these rates exceed 75 per cent."
https://caepr.cass.anu.edu.au/research/publications/indigenous-and-non-indigenou...

Most Abos aren't even half-casts.

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Reply #13 - Jul 11^th, 2023 at 5:53pm

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2023 at 4:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2023 at 2:28pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2023 at 11:05am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

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Yeah, yeah, lets rewrite history, hey? Lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous culture, lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous families, lets forget about Indigenous tribes and society, lets forget about the deliberate attempt to breed out Indigenous people, hey? What silly sausages you are, Matty and Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Which European culture has remained unchanged since the late 18th century, Bbwian?

That is Europe's problem, Soren. This is Australia. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

It is not Europe's 'problem', Doktor Wanker. It illustrates that no culture is static, exempt from change, even drastic, violent change called history. It happens to all, including Abos, Europeans, everyone. Tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

As for 'deliberate attempt to breed out' : "The Indigenous population is projected to continue to grow at a much faster rate than the non-Indigenous population over at least the next 20 years. One explanation for this rapid growth is a high rate of mixed marriage partnerships with the children of these partnerships tending to be identified as Indigenous. In 2011, 56.5 per cent of partnered Indigenous males had a non-Indigenous partner, slightly lower than the corresponding figure of 59.0 per cent for Indigenous females. These percentages represent a steady increase from the previous 2006 Census, rising from 52.4 per cent and 55.5 per cent respectively. In some of our largest cities (like Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne, Adelaide, Newcastle and the Gold Coast), these rates exceed 75 per cent."
https://caepr.cass.anu.edu.au/research/publications/indigenous-and-non-indigenou...

Most Abos aren't even half-casts.

Spoken like a true Racist, Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Your emphasis is on the modern, today, when I am referring to the past. The last efforts to breed out the Indigenous population were between the wars. "Breed out the colour..." is one analysis of the effort. Another is from your side of politics which of course makes it truer, now, doesn't? Longtime Australian policy: Kidnapping children from families Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #14 - Jul 11^th, 2023 at 5:56pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2023 at 5:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2023 at 4:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11^th, 2023 at 2:28pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2023 at 11:05am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9^th, 2023 at 4:47pm:

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Yeah, yeah, lets rewrite history, hey? Lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous culture, lets forget about the destruction of Indigenous families, lets forget about Indigenous tribes and society, lets forget about the deliberate attempt to breed out Indigenous people, hey? What silly sausages you are, Matty and Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Which European culture has remained unchanged since the late 18th century, Bbwian?

That is Europe's problem, Soren. This is Australia. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

It is not Europe's 'problem', Doktor Wanker. It illustrates that no culture is static, exempt from change, even drastic, violent change called history. It happens to all, including Abos, Europeans, everyone. Tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

As for 'deliberate attempt to breed out' : "The Indigenous population is projected to continue to grow at a much faster rate than the non-Indigenous population over at least the next 20 years. One explanation for this rapid growth is a high rate of mixed marriage partnerships with the children of these partnerships tending to be identified as Indigenous. In 2011, 56.5 per cent of partnered Indigenous males had a non-Indigenous partner, slightly lower than the corresponding figure of 59.0 per cent for Indigenous females. These percentages represent a steady increase from the previous 2006 Census, rising from 52.4 per cent and 55.5 per cent respectively. In some of our largest cities (like Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne, Adelaide, Newcastle and the Gold Coast), these rates exceed 75 per cent."
https://caepr.cass.anu.edu.au/research/publications/indigenous-and-non-indigenou...

Most Abos aren't even half-casts.

Spoken like a true Racist, Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Your emphasis is on the modern, today, when I am referring to the past. The last efforts to breed out the Indigenous population were between the wars. "Breed out the colour..." is one analysis of the effort. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

We don't live in the past, Brian, how far back should we go?

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