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Reply #30 - Jul 24th, 2023 at 4:14pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24th, 2023 at 4:08pm:
Chicken littles uses very bit of cold to say “Ice Age!” where those with knowledge of climate science do not regard heat waves as proof of AGW.


No, they just KNOW stuff. Like the IPCC has NOT provided a fingerprint for AGW. If you know where it is hiding show it. Wink
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Reply #31 - Jul 24th, 2023 at 7:32pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24th, 2023 at 4:08pm:
Chicken littles uses very bit of cold to say “Ice Age!” where those with knowledge of climate science do not regard heat waves as proof of AGW.


And yet this topic of yours does just that.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #32 - Jul 24th, 2023 at 7:38pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24th, 2023 at 4:08pm:
Chicken littles uses very bit of cold to say “Ice Age!” where those with knowledge of climate science do not regard heat waves as proof of AGW.



That's because JM  says there never used to be heatwaves. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #33 - Jul 24th, 2023 at 8:11pm
 
I have said it before and I will say it again: People these days are so spoiled with air conditioning, fans, and refrigeration that we are not tough enough to handle a few weeks of hot weather. A weather historian remarked about how CQ's heatwaves were a common thing in the late 1930s and early 1940s. But the people of those times could not rush off to the cinema or shopping centres to cool off in air conditioning. The best you could do is to climb a mountain to literally "get over it" with the warm conditions.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/56149204

Although I cannot find the article about the man, he was adamant that Australians are just whingeing because they are so spoiled with ways to keep cool longer. If you want to complain, try growing up during the summer with no fans and only cold showers to keep you cool.
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Reply #34 - Jul 29th, 2023 at 6:14am
 
Too hot to scandal

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Reply #35 - Jul 29th, 2023 at 10:32am
 
Belgarion wrote on Jul 24th, 2023 at 7:32pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24th, 2023 at 4:08pm:
Chicken littles uses very bit of cold to say “Ice Age!” where those with knowledge of climate science do not regard heat waves as proof of AGW.


And yet this topic of yours does just that.  Roll Eyes


Not my topic.
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Reply #36 - Jul 29th, 2023 at 10:43am
 
Belgarion wrote on Jul 24th, 2023 at 7:32pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24th, 2023 at 4:08pm:
Chicken littles uses very bit of cold to say “Ice Age!” where those with knowledge of climate science do not regard heat waves as proof of AGW.


And yet this topic of yours does just that.  Roll Eyes


Proof of AGW is scientific observations: absorption of IR emitted by the surface of the planet, warming of troposphere and cooling of stratosphere causing emission of IR to space to decline—emissions vary as the fourth power of temperature.

Proof of warming is from graphs of various temperature series which includes BEST which uses raw data only and temperatures from Satellite observations since 1979. These series use all temperature readings not just hot or cold ones. The globe is warming at 0.2°C per decade.

This warming is taking place when natural forcings, the Milankovitch Cycle, are turning down.
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Reply #37 - Jul 29th, 2023 at 8:32pm
 
Follow the (Climate Change) Money

The first iron rule of American politics is: Follow the money. This explains, oh, about 80 percent of what goes on in Washington.

Shortly after the latest Chicken Little climate change report was published last month, I noted on CNN that one reason so many hundreds of scientists are persuaded that the sky is falling is that they are paid handsomely to do so.

I noted that “In America and around the globe governments have created a multi-billion dollar Climate Change Industrial Complex.” And then I added: “A lot of people are getting really, really rich off of the climate change industry.” According to a recent report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, “Federal funding for climate change research, technology, international assistance, and adaptation has increased from $2.4 billion in 1993 to $11.6 billion in 2014, with an additional $26.1 billion for climate change programs and activities provided by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009.”

This doesn’t mean that the planet isn’t warming. But the tidal wave of funding does reveal a powerful financial motive for scientists to conclude that the apocalypse is upon us. No one hires a fireman if there are no fires. No one hires a climate scientist (there are thousands of them now) if there is no catastrophic change in the weather. Why doesn’t anyone in the media ever mention this?

But when I lifted this hood, it incited more hate mail than from anything I’ve said on TV or written. Could it be that this rhetorical missile hit way too close to home?

How dare I impugn the integrity of scientists and left-wing think-tanks by suggesting that their research findings are perverted by hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayer handouts. The irony of this indignation is that any academic whose research dares question the “settled science” of the climate change complex is instantly accused of being a shill for the oil and gas industry or the Koch brothers.

Apparently, if you take money from the private sector to fund research, your work is inherently biased, but if you get multimillion-dollar grants from Uncle Sam, you are as pure as the freshly fallen snow.

How big is the Climate Change Industrial Complex today? Surprisingly, no one seems to be keeping track of all the channels of funding. A few years ago Forbes magazine went through the federal budget and estimated about $150 billion in spending on climate change and green energy subsidies during President Obama’s first term.

That didn’t include the tax subsidies that provide a 30 percent tax credit for wind and solar power — so add to those numbers about $8 billion to $10 billion a year. Then add billions more in costs attributable to the 29 states with renewable energy mandates that require utilities to buy expensive “green” energy.


Worldwide the numbers are gargantuan. Five years ago, a leftist group called the Climate Policy Initiative issued a study which found that “Global investment in climate change” reached $359 billion that year. Then to give you a sense of how money-hungry these planet-saviors are, the CPI moaned that this spending “falls far short of what’s needed” a number estimated at $5 trillion.

For $5 trillion we could feed everyone on the planet, end malaria, and provide clean water and reliable electricity to every remote village in Africa. And we would probably have enough money left over to find a cure for cancer and Alzheimers.

The entire Apollo project to put a man on the moon cost less than $200 billion. We are spending twice that much every year on climate change.

This tsunami of government money distorts science in hidden ways that even the scientists who are corrupted often don’t appreciate. If you are a young eager-beaver researcher who decides to devote your life to the study of global warming, you’re probably not going to do your career any good or get famous by publishing research that the crisis isn’t happening.

But if you’ve built bogus models that predict the crisis is getting worse by the day, then step right up and get a multimillion dollar grant.

Now here’s the real scandal of the near trillion dollars that governments have stolen from taxpayers to fund climate change hysteria and research. By the industry’s own admission there has been almost no progress worldwide in actually combatting climate change. The latest reports by the U.S. government and the United Nations say the problem is getting worse not better and we have not delayed the apocalypse by a single day.

Has there ever been such a massive government expenditure that has had such miniscule returns on investment? After three decades of “research” the only “solution” is for the world to stop using fossil fuels, which is like saying that we should stop growing food.

Really? The greatest minds of the world entrusted with hundreds of billions of dollars can only come up with a solution that would entail the largest government power grab in world history, shutting down industrial production (just look at the catastrophe in Germany when they went all in for green energy), and throwing perhaps billions of human beings into poverty? If that’s the remedy, I will take my chances on a warming planet.
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Reply #38 - Jul 29th, 2023 at 8:35pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Jul 29th, 2023 at 8:32pm:
Follow the (Climate Change) Money

The first iron rule of American politics is: Follow the money. This explains, oh, about 80 percent of what goes on in Washington.




Ah.

So 80% of the time Trump was in office it was about the money (for him).

The other 20% was about golf, yeah?   Undecided
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Reply #39 - Jul 29th, 2023 at 8:48pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29th, 2023 at 8:35pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Jul 29th, 2023 at 8:32pm:
Follow the (Climate Change) Money

The first iron rule of American politics is: Follow the money. This explains, oh, about 80 percent of what goes on in Washington.




Ah.

So 80% of the time Trump was in office it was about the money (for him).

The other 20% was about golf, yeah?   Undecided




It's your claim, show us!
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Reply #40 - Jul 30th, 2023 at 2:58pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Jul 29th, 2023 at 8:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29th, 2023 at 8:35pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Jul 29th, 2023 at 8:32pm:
Follow the (Climate Change) Money

The first iron rule of American politics is: Follow the money. This explains, oh, about 80 percent of what goes on in Washington.




Ah.

So 80% of the time Trump was in office it was about the money (for him).

The other 20% was about golf, yeah?   Undecided




It's your claim, show us!


Sure.

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In 2017, Trump spent three months’ time — 91 days — on the golf course. In 2018, Trump spent 75 days playing golf. In 2019, Trump spent 87 days on a golf course and in 2020, Trump spent 54 days playing golf — even during the deadliest year for the U.S. since World War II which featured 291,557 fatalities. The pandemic was disproportionately deadlier for African American communities.

President Donald Trump has spent 307 days, almost a full year, golfing during his presidency. The total is likely to be the most golf outings of any president in history. Additionally, Trump is likely to be collectively viewed by historians as one of the worst presidents in American history.


https://seattlemedium.com/donald-trump-spent-almost-a-year-playing-golf-during-p...
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Reply #41 - Jul 30th, 2023 at 3:08pm
 
Eighteen-time major winner Jack Nicklaus called Trump "the best player" among the presidents he has played with and even compared Trump's game to his own in 2019. Trump wins, drives and votes. The presidential salary was invested in putts, options and follow through for a great America.
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Reply #42 - Jul 30th, 2023 at 9:11pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 30th, 2023 at 2:58pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Jul 29th, 2023 at 8:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29th, 2023 at 8:35pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Jul 29th, 2023 at 8:32pm:
Follow the (Climate Change) Money

The first iron rule of American politics is: Follow the money. This explains, oh, about 80 percent of what goes on in Washington.




Ah.

So 80% of the time Trump was in office it was about the money (for him).

The other 20% was about golf, yeah?   Undecided




It's your claim, show us!


Sure.

Quote:
In 2017, Trump spent three months’ time — 91 days — on the golf course. In 2018, Trump spent 75 days playing golf. In 2019, Trump spent 87 days on a golf course and in 2020, Trump spent 54 days playing golf — even during the deadliest year for the U.S. since World War II which featured 291,557 fatalities. The pandemic was disproportionately deadlier for African American communities.

President Donald Trump has spent 307 days, almost a full year, golfing during his presidency. The total is likely to be the most golf outings of any president in history. Additionally, Trump is likely to be collectively viewed by historians as one of the worst presidents in American history.


https://seattlemedium.com/donald-trump-spent-almost-a-year-playing-golf-during-p...



It is amazing how much power you believe American Presidents have to change reality and wish away global problems. President Trump didn't even keep his salary but instead donated it every time he was required to take it. Show us how Trump made millions selling out the country this 80% of the time.  Not how our Politian's are bought and sold!

What has this got to do with it being hot? El Nino and La Nina strike again.

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/blogs/july-2023-el-ni%C3%B1o-update-learni...
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Reply #43 - Jul 30th, 2023 at 9:14pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Jul 30th, 2023 at 9:11pm:
President Trump didn't even keep his salary but instead donated it every time he was required to take it.


Really?

You have proof of this?

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Reply #44 - Jul 30th, 2023 at 9:33pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Jul 30th, 2023 at 9:11pm:
President Trump didn't even keep his salary but instead donated it every time he was required to take it.


False, on two accounts.

Let's look at the first lie.

"Donated" suggests there were charities involved.

Can you name a charity he "donated" his salary to?

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