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Re: Tony Abbott says the NIAA disburses $30b a year
Reply #15 - Jul 30^th, 2023 at 7:42am

On that very place I was almost killed in a street fight

I told a guy it was a Non-Smoking area and he attacked me and almost killed me.

On the other side of that wall is the Woolies where that riot was.

This is the NT - Darwin - and it is dangerous

And if you love these people so much - you can move there to be with them.

Your post is just abuse - typical of a mental defective.

You are a sick and evil person

You are an ignorant fool

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Re: Tony Abbott says the NIAA disburses $30b a year
Reply #17 - Jul 30^th, 2023 at 2:38pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 30^th, 2023 at 7:33am:

Frank wrote on Jul 28^th, 2023 at 10:44pm:

I have reviewed this FactCheck. Mundine was right on the figure of $30 billion; total direct expenditure on services for Indigenous Australians in 2012-13 was estimated to be $30.3 billion, as detailed on page one of the Productivity Commission’s 2014 report. Based on the 2011 Census, the Indigenous population was approximately 550,000 people, with most living in urban areas. Researcher Sara Hudson’s August 2016 report, published by the Centre for Independent Studies, outlines the continued waste and duplication of government funding as raised by Mundine. – Dennis Foley
https://theconversation.com/factcheck-qanda-is-30-billion-spent-every-year-on-50...

NIAA
The National Indigenous Australians Agency was established by an Executive Order signed by the Governor-General on 29 May 2019.

The Executive Order gives the NIAA a number of functions, including:

to lead and coordinate Commonwealth policy development, program design and implementation and service delivery for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples;
to provide advice to the Prime Minister and the Minister for Indigenous Australians on whole-of-government priorities for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples;
to lead and coordinate the development and implementation of Australia’s Closing the Gap targets in partnership with Indigenous Australians; and
to lead Commonwealth activities to promote reconciliation.
https://www.niaa.gov.au/who-we-are/the-agency

Abbott is right. (As is Mundine.)
But if he's wrong - what **** is the NIAA doing?? WHO leads and coordinates the expenditure on Abos? And who is ACCOUNTABLE for all that expenditure if not the NIAA???

The NIAA has been audited & has been found wanting in certain areas..... especially relating risk management & accountability against fraud in disbursement of funding.

It was said to be "not fit fit for purpose".

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The objective of the audit was to assess the effectiveness of the NIAA’s management of provider fraud and non-compliance risks.

Key findings:

The NIAA’s management of provider fraud and non-compliance risks is partly effective.

The NIAA’s frameworks for managing provider fraud and non-compliance are [highlight]not fully fit-for-purpose.[/highlight]

There is a risk management framework and a risk-based conceptual approach for managing provider fraud and non-compliance risks. The frameworks for managing fraud and provider non-compliance do not fully comply with legislation or the NIAA’s internal policies.

Elements of the provider fraud and non-compliance framework, such as the underlying policies and procedures, are not always aligned.

There are weaknesses in the design and implementation of governance and assurance mechanisms.

The NIAA’s arrangements for the prevention, detection and referral of potential provider fraud and non-compliance are partly effective.

Prevention is not consistently or sufficiently considered in grant design and planning, and training is out of date.

Detection relies primarily on complaints being raised and arrangements to deal with complaints are appropriate.

Proactive detection controls are not sufficiently implemented. Referral and escalation arrangements exist, however these require greater clarity.

https://apo.org.au/node/322916

Inexplicably, you don't read about this in the Grauniad or the ABC or the New Daily or the New Left Foghorn. Tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

Bbwianesque.

Clannish, tribal mentality, preferencing kin, will always and inevitably lead to corruption.
The real surprise would be if it didn't.

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Re: Tony Abbott says the NIAA disburses $30b a year
Reply #18 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 1:53am

Boris wrote on Jul 30^th, 2023 at 7:42am:

On that very place I was almost killed in a street fight

I told a guy it was a Non-Smoking area and he attacked me and almost killed me...

How's it possible for one bloke to fabricate so
much bullshit AND post it on a public forum? Cheesy

Is there anything Boris hasn't seen or done,
heard of or been the victim of?

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Re: Tony Abbott says the NIAA disburses $30b a year
Reply #19 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 2:53am

AusGeoff wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 1:53am:

Boris wrote on Jul 30^th, 2023 at 7:42am:

On that very place I was almost killed in a street fight

I told a guy it was a Non-Smoking area and he attacked me and almost killed me...

How's it possible for one bloke to fabricate so
much bullshit AND post it on a public forum? Cheesy

Is there anything Boris hasn't seen or done,
heard of or been the victim of?

You, Brian, Aussie, and a few other social justice warriors must live in a very non-indigenous neighbourhood. Or you stay home a lot and never get to witness the carry-ons of indigenous Australians.

Imagine for a second that you are indigenous. Given that you have the "race card" to play whilst you are in Australia, the thought of giving a white person a bashing for telling you what not to do would give you no second thought of carrying out the act. And what are the police going to do? Give you a ride to the station, put you in lock up, have you front a magistrate one of the week days -- which you would likely mouth off to with impunity -- and then get a slap on the wrist by the magistrate. You would probably get a high five and some Seppo-style complicated handshake from your mob as you exit the court house through the front door.

I frickin' swear you guys have lived a very sheltered life.

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Re: Tony Abbott says the NIAA disburses $30b a year
Reply #20 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 3:17am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 2:53am:

AusGeoff wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 1:53am:

Boris wrote on Jul 30^th, 2023 at 7:42am:

On that very place I was almost killed in a street fight

I told a guy it was a Non-Smoking area and he attacked me and almost killed me...

How's it possible for one bloke to fabricate so
much bullshit AND post it on a public forum? Cheesy

Is there anything Boris hasn't seen or done,
heard of or been the victim of?

You, Brian, Aussie, and a few other social justice warriors must live in a very non-indigenous neighbourhood. Or you stay home a lot and never get to witness the carry-ons of indigenous Australians...

LOL... I actually live near an Aboriginal settlement, and
often talk to the blokes when they come into town
to do a bit of shopping or banking or whatever. I also
lived and worked in the Pilbara, in mining, so I've seen
a fair few of the local Aboriginals and their often drunken
street fights (which are ultimately harmless to the local
white population anyway).

Anyway...

The point I was making was not about any particular
traits of Aboriginals, but more about the crap that
Boris posts here every day... like he was "almost
killed" by an Aboriginal FFS. I really think he lives
in some sort of internalised fantasy world LOL.

BTW, what have you got against social justice?
Don't you believe in a fair and equitable division of
resources, opportunities, and privileges in society?

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Re: Tony Abbott says the NIAA disburses $30b a year
Reply #21 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 7:09am

AusGeoff wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 3:17am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 2:53am:

AusGeoff wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 1:53am:

Boris wrote on Jul 30^th, 2023 at 7:42am:

On that very place I was almost killed in a street fight

I told a guy it was a Non-Smoking area and he attacked me and almost killed me...

How's it possible for one bloke to fabricate so
much bullshit AND post it on a public forum? Cheesy

Is there anything Boris hasn't seen or done,
heard of or been the victim of?

You, Brian, Aussie, and a few other social justice warriors must live in a very non-indigenous neighbourhood. Or you stay home a lot and never get to witness the carry-ons of indigenous Australians...

LOL... I actually live near an Aboriginal settlement, and
often talk to the blokes when they come into town
to do a bit of shopping or banking or whatever. I also
lived and worked in the Pilbara, in mining, so I've seen
a fair few of the local Aboriginals and their often drunken
street fights (which are ultimately harmless to the local
white population anyway).

Anyway...

The point I was making was not about any particular
traits of Aboriginals, but more about the crap that
Boris posts here every day... like he was "almost
killed" by an Aboriginal FFS. I really think he lives
in some sort of internalised fantasy world LOL.

BTW, what have you got against social justice?
Don't you believe in a fair and equitable division of
resources, opportunities, and privileges in society?

The crime statistics in the NT are off the scale compared to the rest of Aust.

You wouldn't understand what I am talking about because you are a fool.

The Homicide rate for Australia is less than 1 person (0.9) per 100,000 people.

In the NT it is 8 per 100,000 people and in Tenant Creek it is 45 per 100,000 people.

But being basically stupid you would not understand reality.

Alice Springs was at one stage the stabbing capital of the world - but as a fool you would not understand.

I was a first responder and witnessed horror while you masturbated.

If you see the spear fights like I have - I posted videos of some - they are all well fed and healthy and not impoverished - they are well cared for and get everything they want when they want - but are just violent - so that is on them to fix not the government and taxpayer.

But as a total fool you would not understand that

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Re: Tony Abbott says the NIAA disburses $30b a year
Reply #22 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 7:13am

AusGeoff wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 1:53am:

Boris wrote on Jul 30^th, 2023 at 7:42am:

On that very place I was almost killed in a street fight

I told a guy it was a Non-Smoking area and he attacked me and almost killed me...

How's it possible for one bloke to fabricate so
much bullshit AND post it on a public forum? Cheesy

Is there anything Boris hasn't seen or done,
heard of or been the victim of?

How many years did you live in the NT and work for the Health Department

How many?

I saw horror as do the NT Cops

You merely play with your plonker

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Boris Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4085 Gender:	Re: Tony Abbott says the NIAA disburses $30b a year Reply #23 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 7:16am Brian Ross wrote on Jul 30^th, 2023 at 2:31pm: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/3847/ICkw7v.png You either do not know the truth or don't care either way you are a Narcissist
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Re: Tony Abbott says the NIAA disburses $30b a year
Reply #24 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 1:55pm

AusGeoff wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 3:17am:

BTW, what have you got against social justice?
Don't you believe in a fair and equitable division of
resources, opportunities, and privileges in society?

I dont. These words - social justice and equity - have been so debauched and deformed by lefty agitators and activist over the decades that they have become shibboleths of the progressive agenda.

Justice is a fine concept but it means different things across history and places. Now, however, it is appropriated by the left.

So no, I do not believe in the lefty concepts of social justice and the lefty concept of equity. Just as I di not 'believe' the homosexual appropriation of 'gay' or the the other lefty-monopolised shibboleths of diversity, inclusion and the rest of the soft tyrannies of the Left.

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Re: Tony Abbott says the NIAA disburses $30b a year
Reply #25 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 7:38pm

AusGeoff wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 3:17am:

LOL... I actually live near an Aboriginal settlement, and
often talk to the blokes when they come into town
to do a bit of shopping or banking or whatever. I also
lived and worked in the Pilbara, in mining, so I've seen
a fair few of the local Aboriginals and their often drunken
street fights (which are ultimately harmless to the local
white population anyway).

I live 170km away from 1000 residents of an indigenous community. And that is still too close. They like to drive to town to pick up a few things, too. Among them are fights with the locals. And the police have instructions to turn a blind eye, unless there is considerable problems.

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Anyway...

The point I was making was not about any particular
traits of Aboriginals, but more about the crap that
Boris posts here every day... like he was "almost
killed" by an Aboriginal FFS. I really think he lives
in some sort of internalised fantasy world LOL.

BTW, what have you got against social justice?
Don't you believe in a fair and equitable division of
resources, opportunities, and privileges in society?

I have also almost been killed by an indigenous person. Have you ever had an axe held to your throat? Imagine that the only reason why I am still alive is because a police officer got word of the threat and reacted in time to save me.

I have no problem with social justice. But, let us be real here: If non-indigenous people hit back at indigenous people at the same rate that indigenous people strike out at non-indigenous people, there would be no indigenous people left, or they would be running scared.

Or if indigenous people got the same share of resources, fairness, and opportunities that non-indigenous people have, then indigenous people would have higher rates of unemployment, more poverty, higher infant mortality rates, a higher prison percentage, and would have had the worst reputation in the entire world for being blatant racists.

Trying to overcompensate and excusing indigenous people is just spoiling them.

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Reply #26 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 7:46pm

Well - where's my defined group's $30Bn? anyway - I thought the "$100M a day" 0r $36.5Bn a year partly went to defence and other stuff.... what? As levies direct on the Aboriginal community after they get their cut first?

The productivity commission - at least one lie in there - said so in its defence of $100m a day!

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Re: Tony Abbott says the NIAA disburses $30b a year
Reply #27 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 9:55pm

Boris wrote on Jul 31^st, 2023 at 7:16am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 30^th, 2023 at 2:31pm:

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You either do not know the truth or don't care

either way you are a Narcissist

What is it Narcissists do, Matty? They belittle people at every turn. What do we see you doing? Belittling people at every turn. Tsk, tsk, tsk, you are so quick to belittle anybody who dares to question you or your antics. Such a silly Narcissist you, Matty. Roll Eyes

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Boris Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4085 Gender:	Re: Tony Abbott says the NIAA disburses $30b a year Reply #28 - Jul 31^st, 2023 at 10:35pm My name is not Matty All you ever do is invalidate every single word I say You do that because you hate people with a different opinion and you are a Narcissist
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