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THE REAL VOICE AGENDA FINALLY REVEALED (Read 2409 times)
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THE REAL VOICE AGENDA FINALLY REVEALED
Aug 2nd, 2023 at 12:55pm
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12362543/Anthony-Albaneses-letter-deman...

Dear God! Little wonder Burney has shut her mouth and can’t answer any questions! Both Burney and Albo have engaged in misleading AND deceptive conduct!


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Reply #1 - Aug 2nd, 2023 at 12:56pm
 
From the above link 👆

Albo's decades-long push for a treaty revealed: Anthony Albanese signed a letter demanding reparations in 1986 - as calls grow for Linda Burney to resign after refusing to answer questions

2 August 2023

As a 23-year-old leftwing activist Albo signed the open letter to The National Times, dated April 18, 1986, with Indigenous leaders Pat Dodson and Marcia Langton.

The letter supported the 'granting of land rights and appropriate compensation' for the 'invasion of Aboriginal land'.

It called for 'recognition of (Aboriginal) sovereignty, land rights, and compensation for lands lost and for social and cultural disruption'.

Mr Dodson and Ms Langton, who are both heavily involved in the 'Yes' campaign ahead of the Indigenous Voice to Parliament referendum, were listed as points of contact for readers seeking more information.

The revelation comes as the Albanese-led Labor government moves to distance the concept of treaty - and any suggestion of compensation for Indigenous Australians - from the Voice referendum, to be held between October and December.

However, with the referendum now just three months away and with polls showing support for the Voice is softening, Mr Albanese and his ministry are hesitant to link treaty-making and truth-telling to the Voice.

He told ABC Radio National on Wednesday morning he will not move to negotiate a treaty or treaties in his first term - contradicting an election campaign vow he made in November 2021 in which he said a Makarrata Commission would be required to report to the Labor government on treaty progress within Mr Albanese's first term.

The National Indigenous Australians Agency confirmed earlier this year that progress on the Makarrata Commission has been paused until after the referendum.

At the time, Senator Lidia Thorpe said: 'The government's handbook on questions related to First Nations issues now is an automatic response saying "we'll deal with that after the Referendum".

'They have spent $900,000 on Truth and Treaty and have nothing to show for it. Less than a year ago Minister Burney was speaking about how the public shouldn't forget that the Uluru Statement was about Truth and Treaty as well as the Voice.'

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Reply #2 - Aug 2nd, 2023 at 1:00pm
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12359469/linda-burney-voice-script.html

Linda Burney read out a scripted answer about footballer Johnathan Thurston when asked about what happens AFTER the Voice

👆 This woman IS unable to do her freaking job ffs! Or too scared to. She’s either unable or not allowed to speak the truth. Which is it? Either way she needs to GO!
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Reply #3 - Aug 2nd, 2023 at 1:21pm
 
Govt can legislate reparations if it wanted to with or without a voice.

Only the terminally stupid would think this has anything to do with the voice. Congrats Larry, you qualify as terminally stupid.
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Reply #4 - Aug 2nd, 2023 at 1:36pm
 
"As early as 1986, Mr Albanese was publicly advocating for reparations, land back and Aboriginal sovereignty".

37 years ago, Lisa. People do change their minds every so often. Perhaps Mr Albanese has had a change of heart in that time. 23 years of age and left-wing at the time, I could probably allege that Albanese had different priorities at the time.

What you might notice in the press conference on the Voice, Mr Albanese seemed a bit coerced into making the statements he made. When this Voice to Parliament gets overwhelmingly defeated in the coming months, if Albanese starts mouthing off about racist Australians voting against it, then we will confirm Albanese's allegiance to minorities.

Albanese will lose the next election.
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Reply #5 - Aug 2nd, 2023 at 2:01pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 2nd, 2023 at 1:36pm:
"As early as 1986, Mr Albanese was publicly advocating for reparations, land back and Aboriginal sovereignty".

37 years ago, Lisa. People do change their minds every so often. Perhaps Mr Albanese has had a change of heart in that time. 23 years of age and left-wing at the time, I could probably allege that Albanese had different priorities at the time.

What you might notice in the press conference on the Voice, Mr Albanese seemed a bit coerced into making the statements he made. When this Voice to Parliament gets overwhelmingly defeated in the coming months, if Albanese starts mouthing off about racist Australians voting against it, then we will confirm Albanese's allegiance to minorities.

Albanese will lose the next election.


Nooooo!!!! Have you read the article in its entirety?

There is a clear link btwn his original agenda and it involves the same original collaborators (who have now been appointed by Albo) and are currently functioning in key Voice Referendum positions.

Re next election - Albo will probably go.
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Reply #6 - Aug 2nd, 2023 at 2:05pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 2nd, 2023 at 1:21pm:
Govt can legislate reparations if it wanted to with or without a voice.

Only the terminally stupid would think this has anything to do with the voice. Congrats Larry, you qualify as terminally stupid.


Get out of here Dumbarse! You’ve no idea about politics or anything really! Including the rubbish you’ve just posted which is incorrect BTW and has nothing to do with this topic.

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Reply #7 - Aug 2nd, 2023 at 2:08pm
 
I did not read the entirety of the article. I got bored after I read the part about what Albanese did in 1986. In 1986, I was still learning to add, subtract, read and write. When I turned 23 years old, I held views vastly different to what I have now. When I turn 60, I bet my priorities will differ again.

I would be sure that Albanese is motivated by his priorities to do enough so that his upcoming retirement years don't get bogged down in political criticism that will follow him into his old age. What he did as a 23-year-old was just inconsequential posturing.
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Reply #8 - Aug 2nd, 2023 at 2:17pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 2nd, 2023 at 2:08pm:
1. I did not read the entirety of the article. I got bored after I read the part about what Albanese did in 1986.

2. In 1986, I was still learning to add, subtract, read and write.

3. When I turned 23 years old, I held views vastly different to what I have now.

4. When I turn 60, I bet my priorities will differ again.

5. I would be sure that Albanese is motivated by his priorities to do enough so that his upcoming retirement years don't get bogged down in political criticism that will follow him into his old age.

6. What he did as a 23-year-old was just inconsequential posturing.


Note : I’ve placed numbers in your post as that helps me in clearly addressing your post. Ok? So please don’t get cranky with me over that.

1. I kinda knew you hadn’t read the article in its entirety. Hence why I asked if you had.

2, 3, 4 👈 I get. And I agree.

5. and 6. 👈 Hmmm. Speculation (and that’s ok because that’s pretty much all anyone can do with the bits n pieces of information we’re allowed to know through MMM)
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Reply #9 - Aug 2nd, 2023 at 2:25pm
 
Albanese is just guessing what he thinks the public wants. He has misread what is best for Australia. He is so city-centric that he does not know what goes on in rural and regional areas need done.
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Reply #10 - Aug 2nd, 2023 at 2:36pm
 

It will never be enough:





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Reply #11 - Aug 2nd, 2023 at 2:39pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 2nd, 2023 at 2:05pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 2nd, 2023 at 1:21pm:
Govt can legislate reparations if it wanted to with or without a voice.

Only the terminally stupid would think this has anything to do with the voice. Congrats Larry, you qualify as terminally stupid.


Get out of here Dumbarse! You’ve no idea about politics or anything really! Including the rubbish you’ve just posted which is incorrect BTW and has nothing to do with this topic.



Is this is where you consolidate your stupidity and double down ?
I think soooooo
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Reply #12 - Aug 2nd, 2023 at 2:46pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 2nd, 2023 at 2:25pm:
Albanese is just guessing what he thinks the public wants. He has misread what is best for Australia. He is so city-centric that he does not know what goes on in rural and regional areas need done.


💯

He is also ego centric.

Before the election - he was the poor Housing Commission kid with only a mum and no dad.

After the election - he revealed his true colours ie an ego centric, rich, investment property portfolio equipped Capitalist.

Australians won’t easily forget his before and after transformations. They’re not that stupid.
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Reply #13 - Aug 2nd, 2023 at 3:02pm
 
Posters here might like to look up the UN DECLARATION ON THE RIGHTS OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLE which Australia endorsed, after some hesitancy, on April 3, 2009.

Although it doesn't tie our hands to any course of action, the direction is set.

"The Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples was adopted by the United Nations General Assembly on 14 September 2007 (AEST). The Declaration has 46 substantive articles and 24 preambular paragraphs.1 It includes 9 changes to the text of the Declaration as adopted by the UN Human Rights Council in June 2006.

The Declaration is divided into the following broad thematic areas:

    Over-arching principles (Articles 1-6): The rights of indigenous peoples to the full enjoyment of all human rights, non-discrimination, self-determination and autonomy, maintenance of Indigenous institutions, and the right to a nationality.

    Life, integrity and security (Articles 7-10): Freedom from genocide, forced assimilation or destruction of culture, forced relocation from land, right to integrity and security of the person, and right to belong to an indigenous community or nation.

    Cultural, spiritual and linguistic identity (Articles 11 – 13): Rights to practice and revitalize culture and the transmission of histories, languages etc; and the protection of traditions, sites, ceremonial objects and repatriation of remains.

    Education, information and labour rights (Articles 14-17): Right to education, including to run own educational institutions and teach in language; cultures to be reflected in education and public information; access to media (both mainstream and indigenous specific); and rights to protection of labour law and from economic exploitation.
   

Participatory, development and other economic and social rights (Articles 18-24): Rights to participation in decision-making, through representative bodies; rights to their own institutions to secure subsistence and development; special measures to be adopted to address indigenous disadvantage and ensure non-discriminatory enjoyment of rights; guarantees against violence and discrimination for women and children; right to development; and access to traditional health practices and medicines.

 
  Land, territories and resources rights (Articles 25-32): rights to maintain traditional connections to land and territories; for ownership of such lands and protection of lands by State; establishment of systems to recognize indigenous lands; rights to redress and compensation for lands that have been taken; conservation and protection of the environment; measures relating to storage of hazardous waste and military activities on indigenous lands; protection of traditional knowledge, cultural heritage and expressions and intellectual property; and processes for development on indigenous land.
   

Indigenous institutions (Article 33 – 37): Rights to determine membership and to maintain institutions (including judicial systems), to determine responsibilities of individuals to their communities, to maintain relations across international borders, and right to the recognition of treaties, agreements and other constructive arrangements with States.

    Implementation of the Declaration (Articles 38 – 42): States and UN agencies to implement the provisions of the Declaration, including through technical and financial assistance; access to financial and technical assistance for Indigenous peoples to implement the Declaration; and conflict resolution processes to be established that are just and fair.

    General provisions of the Declaration (Articles 43-46): The provisions of the Declaration are recognized as minimum standards and apply equally to Indigenous men and women; the standards recognized in the Declaration may not be used to limit or diminish indigenous rights, and must be exercised in conformity with the UN Charter and universal human rights standards; the provisions in the Declaration to be interpreted in accordance with principles of justice, democracy, respect for human rights, equality, non-discrimination, good governance and good faith."

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Reply #14 - Aug 2nd, 2023 at 3:13pm
 
I had difficulty clicking on that non clickable link but eventually I got there.

So what happened to this missing bit?

The exercise of the rights set forth in this Declaration shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law, and in accordance with international human rights obligations.

Any such limitations shall be non-discriminatory and strictly necessary solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and for meeting the just and most compelling requirements of a democratic society.
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