He might have worn a wet suit.... still....  trout fishing.... morning ladies said the blind man walking past the fish market...
I'm not arguing one way or the other on the shagging angle - just expecting facts and reality other than the conviction of Sir Thomas Mann....

"Aye - me Lord King Henry!  Two persons of standing in the community have said they overheard Sir Thomas saying that your taking over the Church and renaming it the Church of England and creating for yourself the right to dispose of your Queen was a crime....."

"Truly then is Sir Thomas undone - prepare the scaffold for the hanging, drawing and quartering..... and let his name henceforth be Deuce!"

Ah - the good old feudal days when a man could hang slowly on a rope from a tree at the word of a 'better'.... the good old feudal days when a lord could just say 'hang him' on no evidence.... the good old feudal days when no criminal accused ever escaped the rack and death because nobody did!!  Ahhh - the good old days here when any 'judge' or 'magistrate' could just find anyone guilty by accusation at whim on the basis that all are criminals unless they are of a certain type - wouldn't be here unless they did it, eh?  The good old feudal days of the Hitlers and Stalins ... wherein any person 'denounced' as an enemy of the State/Reich would go to the gas chamber or the fatal gulag or the cellars at the Lubyanka or at Gestapo HQ ... the heady days of absolute power and total control over the very lives of the citizenry!!!

Bloody democracy ruined all that for them .... buggar .... how our politicians, women, judges and other half-educated arseholes assembled in baying crowds of one kind or another suffer from that modern deficiency.... bloody democracy and human rights..... they want to determine what human rights are - not you scum.... how can any society function unless the accredited better classes can just have their way in everything?

And we thought we laughed at Poms and tgheir pretentious ways and putting on airs - literally - when they adopt the 'accent' of a class hagher, you know.... when all along our country suffered the same fatal disease of every petty arsehole thinking about abusing someone else and looking down on others....

Yes - we really need a return to the stratified 'class' society with different 'rights' adhering to different groups - women must have more 'rights'.... tifino why - but they must... no woman ever lies or makes a mistake or is just plain stupid ....

Poor Fellow - My Country.  Just when there was hope for democracy, proper civil equal rights for all no based on position, and even a fair hearing in a court for a change instead of the automatic guilt handed to the defendant.... along came the feminists and opened up the door for the corrupt politicians and judiciary to stamp down on people by social group again.

Answer me this - in the event of a successful national revolution - how many judges and politicians would 'scape the scaffold or the firing squad... considering they are all doing the right thing by everyone, that is.....   

Aussie wrote on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 3:51pm:


It is not proof positive, this offering different reasons for being there.... how do you or anyone else know he was 'hormonally attracted' to the woman at the time?  There you go again - off into fantasy land..... he didn't 'ply her with piss' - he bought her two drinks over the entire night that went on into the early hours of the next morning... he gave three reasons for going there.... maybe they went for a shag - but NOBODY KNOWS FOR SURE ..  and nobody knows for sure it ever happened ...maybe his phone was turned off.....

Show me ..... where's your substantial evidence?  If sex took place there is evidence of sex - not just of being there...... she destroyed some of the claimed evidence ... she changed her stories time and again .... NOBODY, including that silly commissioner overpaid sheila down there - came out of this looking good.... but there is no case to answer, and just carrying on with a facade like that commissioner creature did will not change facts.

WTF ever considered her for any such appointment with her clear stupidity and total bias?  Another job for an old party mate intent on 'The Agenda' - that agenda being the demolition of Law here.

So next we'll have a different approach to law for every group.... you are insane,Aussie.

So - let's try again .... they were there - AND??  What can you PROVE happened?

You just go round and round and never connect with reality.....

Nah then - once again - the 'high profile case in Toowoomba' - where the sheila lunched some bloke (let's call him Deuce), and three weeks later from reports worked out it was Deuce Mk I and then decided that he must have raped her .... even though she went back for seconds ....

Ummm .... yeah... yeah.... true story.... cool story, bro... this is more of a farce every day.

Aussie wrote on Aug 4^th, 2023 at 5:36pm:


Your confession from long ago now is noted............ you support guilt by accusation now.... as long as a person of a specified social group is the accuser, there is no defence, just like in any despotic government .... ah - the good old days of wave a finger and  a man burns at the stake.... what a shame they are no longer with us and judges are sworn to uphold LAW equally for all...... and not Animal Farm style - all animals are equal but special groups as designated are more equal than others ... a woman claiming rape or any form of abuse is more equal.... an Aborigine claiming 'scrimination is more equal ... a transgender claiming ... something or other... is more equal.... poor buggars - just can't fend for themselves in the Big World....

Wow - trannies are 66 times more likely to have HIV ... hmmm... a fine argument for never 'sleeping' with one.... YUK!

Yay - no 'proof on the balance of probabilities ' just a determination of balance of probabilities without proof ... i.er. no proof at all, and nothing more than a person opinion based on... well... pretty much anything.  You really must stop trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the court, counsellor... using words like 'proof' when they do not apply.

Nothing has been proven other than that they were there.... no proof of any illegal act has been produced.... only an accusation without supporting evidence.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 24^th, 2024 at 5:39pm:


Grappler, you confuse 'proof' with 'evidence.'

Here, there was ample evidence to prove, according to Judge Lee, on the balance of probabilities:

"Bruce Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins."

According to me, there is ample evidence which proves, beyond reasonable doubt:

"Bruce Lehrmann raped Britanny Higgins."

Never go back to the lions' den for your hat, Grappler:

"Lehrmann had been drinking for five hours with colleagues and had returned to the office after 1.30am with his 24-year-old colleague, Brittany Higgins. She was heavily intoxicated. He was not."

Funnier by the moment...  five hour 'e 'it the piss, yer 'onnah - but 'e were not drunk!!!   Girl 'ad six over many hour - she were pissed out of mind!!!  Arh, aye - 'leven drinks counted an' he bought TWO of 'em... filthy plier.... then she 'it thirteen!!!

Nobody counted HIS drinks... butc 'e weren't pissed, yer 'onnah!  True story....

“Contrary to his evidence, he did spend most of the evening with Ms Higgins and, as the night wore on, was aware of her drinking and, towards the end of the evening, was encouraging her to drink well beyond the bounds of sobriety,” he said."

Actually it looks like a group of more than half a dozen.... he bought her two drinks over the evening - how is he 'encouraging' her when she's already high in the sky? 

8.51 change of story - linking up on a dating site... Jesus ... why bother?

9.34 pm " Mr Lehrmann handed over a card in payment of a $42.50 charge for a round of drinks" ... so he wasn't 'plyhng her with drinks' at all - he bought a round.  One down out of two.......

Aye - that be incriminating - the bastard paid for the drinks....

“Mr Reedy was an impressive and accomplished man who did his best to assist the court but, in the end, there is no need for me to form definitive views about his evidence,” Lee said."

Ah - 'e be condemned on lip reading but in the end the 'judge paid not attention to it... did the video show where these drinks came from and where they went... you know - did it show her drinking all of them after Bruce bought them for  (LMFAO) late night Canberra Friday night $16?

“notably the sixth spirit-based drink which Mr Lehrmann had observed Ms Higgins consume since his arrival” and “it is clear that Mr Lehrmann had again actively encouraged her to consume the drink”."  How did he assume he 'encouraged' her to drink it?

This could go on and on - but there is still zero supportive evidence to show that sex of any kind actually took place.  hat is an assumption pure and simple.  It reads like Bruce must have been lying Lee with drinks.... all that confusion...

“Put bluntly, he was a 23-year-old male cheating on his girlfriend, having just ‘hooked up’ with a woman he found sexually attractive. Human experience suggests what he then wanted to happen is not exactly shrouded in mystery.”  Indeed - but DID it happen?  Where's the conclusive proof?

He doesn't recall (Brittany style) signing her in - but he wasn't drunk... nah ... YTF would he deny signing her in if he did?

It would take a book, but clearly there is an incredible range of assumptions in this... this would suit mothra... reading in - inserting own experience - just bulldoze reality aside  - make no sense - Bruce spent $16 on another card?  Probably his government card so he didn't want to mention it... you might get two drinks for $16 .... three in front of her?  Again where did they come from?

This is a comedy routine, surely?

So why did Bri'ny follow Brusch at one clok in mornig hic? Wy was Bruus in room widh her all tha time busy doin portant work?