Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 1:17pm:


Grappler, do you reckon Lehrmann will give evidence (i.e. in the Witness Box) in this one?

Aussie wrote on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 1:33pm:



I doubt he'll have to..... there's already enough tom-foolery surrounding this 'case' that it is the laughing stock of even Toowoomba.... Souf East Queenslund border with the rest, you know... funny lot even there ... no wonder the rest of Queenslund want to cut off from that corner....

What's your view now of the 48 days without a word other than to some 'friend' on the phone on the day she saw deuce on tv?  What about the doctor who - long before any complaint and in merely reviewing the files already held on the 'complainant' for her mental elf issues and substance abuse - said she had memory losses or lapses?

What about this ruler of the king's navy magistrate going for his five minutes of fame?      

Future Governor of Queenslund spot for standing in the barricades with at least one major component of 'The Cause' - that component being to bring down that part of the Patriarchy which demands ... DEMANDS (how dare they?) ... that a person be considered innocent, that no conviction can be made on other than compelling evidence supported by corroboration and indeed hard evidence, and that no conviction on accusation/denunciation can take place in THIS country?

mothra - in her asylum room next door to Kanga down there - has already assumed deuce is 'guilty' and that everyone is attacking 'the poor victim' by discussing such things..... mothra of course is insane... Kanga is a sock .... where would you like to stand this time?

For the abolition of Law and its substitution with guilt by denunciation?  Or are you ready to stand by Law properly and expect evidence, corroboration, substance and reason to hold sway, and all ex-culpatory evidence to be open and offered in court?

Difficult crossroads for so many of you - it must be that hot sun and the water up there.....

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 8^th, 2024 at 1:53pm:


It says something about you when you have to assume that those who don't agree with you and challenge your point of view must be crazy and should be committed.

This is a classic example of an ad hominem attack, where you're attacking the character or mental state of your opponents instead of addressing the arguments or issues at hand. You're trying to divert attention away from the actual debate topics and focus on discrediting the person.

Resorting to such accusations often suggests that you don't have strong or substantive arguments.

These sorts of tactics are mostly used as a way to deflect from the weaknesses in your own case.

This tactic can also be an attempt to paint yourself as the victim of crazy people.  What a surprise, more victimhood from Grap.

This behaviour can be a sign of desperation or frustration, which explains why you've been projecting that as an attack on others so much lately.

In the real world, this approach usually weakens the credibility of the person making the accusation and can detract from the overall quality of their argument. 

I guess that doesn't really bother you Grap since you'll just believe whatever you want to anyway.

Cute meme.

Ummmm - to make sure that nobody really knows the figures and so it can become a political football at any time and just be bounced around? 

90% of sexual assaults are not reported!!  How do they know that?  Because only 10% are reported...... how do that know that?  Because 90% are not reported.... those are the official figures... don't blame the messenger.... and 100% of men killed by a partner do not report that, either.....

Very Kafka ......

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 10:09pm:



John was closer.

What you suggest, Rocky, is quite someways down the to do list for most rape victims. You see, most are in shock. now that can take a few days to pass ... then there's trauma. you keep saying that you have experienced trauma yet you consistently show no awareness of it whatsoever.

Generally, people who have been raped are traumatised. A much understood byproduct of trauma is an unwillingness to relive the incident.

Now factor in what John said.

Now factor in what you said.

Now weigh it all up and consider if you had just been horribly traumatised and brutalised whether you felt like immediately reporting it to the police? And knowing what conviction rates are and what people have to go through to procure them ... all to be processed and faced while traumatised?

Or maybe you agree with Frank, rape is simply unsophisticated sex. or with Crappler, tear the accusers apart!

whatever you blokes decide amongst yourselves, rape victims will continue to under-report and upon occasion, report suddenly, should the mood take them. This is simply part of the process. The only choice that is left to them.

And you resent even that.

Of course you do.

mothra wrote on Jul 12^th, 2024 at 8:58am:


The only example of being raped I can say I have experienced is one that happens to be a technicality. I was 12 years old. The lady in question was about 25 or 26 years old. I was flirting with the lady, and the lady thought it was amusing that a young 'teenager' would hit upon her like that. She decided to do me a favour.

A week later, Mum gets this phone call from the lady. That lady said that I had got her pregnant. Mum informed her that I was only 12 years old. I still remember hearing the faint sound of a squeal coming from the receiver, as I sat about 3 metres away at the table. Mum told her how stupid she was, before terminating the call.

Obviously, I did not want to report the incident. Mum was very annoyed, but thought that it was probably a prank call. She figured that a woman with a very sultry voice would not possibly want to sleep with a pre-teen like me. I could swear that she almost changed her mind, when she spotted me smirking whilst I reminisced about the previous week.

Basically, my situation was nowhere near as serious as genuine rape victims. But, if Mum wanted to pursue the matter of child rape, it would take 9 months before any DNA evidence would be available. Aaaand, the lady was back in the USA when my daughter was born. So, that is a wildly different perspective of how a 'raped' child would not report to police being raped. I also did not want the lady to have her career destroyed because of this.

Ah - the joys of political appointment and even election through the approved ways of making connections etc and not even having skills etc:-